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ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="BhagatSingh" data-source="post: 112961" data-attributes="member: 2610"><p>Narayanjot Kaur ji</p><p>Haha of course! Can't wait to hear them <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>I dont know why you are asking me such a question. Where did I imply that...???? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite5" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":confused:" /></p><p></p><p>He doesn't say "Thank you" because that <strong>would</strong> imply he is thanking someone. He is simply feeling thankful as per this definition:</p><p><em>Definitions of <strong> thankful</strong> on the Web:</em></p><p><em>grateful: feeling or showing gratitude; "a grateful heart"; "grateful for the tree's shade"; "a thankful smile" </em></p><p><em><a href="http://www.google.ca/url?ei=UoXOSsTyL4qHlAfDxbSpCg&sig2=LnO8hdR3ISLwB4rBxQts3A&q=http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn%3Fs%3Dthankful&ei=UoXOSsTyL4qHlAfDxbSpCg&sa=X&oi=define&ct=&cd=1&ved=0CBMQpAMoAA&usg=AFQjCNECtSBHua2fATru4L2lmTH31fC2Vg" target="_blank"><span style="color: #008000">wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn</span></a></em></p><p></p><p>Similary using the definition of oppurtuniy...</p><p><em>Definitions of <strong> opportunity</strong> on the Web:</em></p><p><em><strong>a possibility due to a favorable combination of circumstances</strong>; "the holiday gave us the opportunity to visit Washington"; "now is your chance" </em></p><p><em><a href="http://www.google.ca/url?ei=n4jOSsfHHJPWlAe7nKipCg&sig2=JkdOLDlkCWhG3YUVTr2G4A&q=http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn%3Fs%3Dopportunity&ei=n4jOSsfHHJPWlAe7nKipCg&sa=X&oi=define&ct=&cd=1&ved=0CBoQpAMoAA&usg=AFQjCNGdY23oe5VilCTCHgEFH3sOyZFp2w" target="_blank"><span style="color: #008000">wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn</span></a></em></p><p></p><p>Makes sense... what's so untenable? </p><p>The latter analogy of George Bush was humour so...</p><p></p><p>------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>Tejwant Singh ji</p><p>Creative energy, it seems to be the basis of your argument yet you have spent no time in actually explaining what it means.</p><p>You have simply stated To the first bit, if Ik Ong Kaar is beyond everything, then what's purpose does he serve? How can you know anything about him or even know if he exists? Why would you then still formulate a sort of description of him?</p><p></p><p>Now the next bit:</p><p><em>"Ajuni Sehbung = creative energy" </em>I finally figured out why you are calling it energy because Ajuni is translated to beyond birth, and sehbung is self-existent... as energy is neither created nor destroyed but is energy self-existent... will have to look into that. But anyhow, this is <strong>idiosyncratic </strong>(if I may repeat Narayanjot Kaur ji's term). Read the whole mool mantar .. <span style="font-family: 'TAHOMA'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: #000080"><strong>Creative Being Personified.</strong> No Fear. No Hatred. Image Of The Undying, Beyond Birth, Self-Existent.</span></span></span></p><p>We are talking about "people qualities" so ajuni means he is not born of a woman. You cannot start personifying something and then start listing qualities of energy which is clearly non-matter... non person. Also, "no fear and no hatred" are meaningless when talking about energy... but not when talking about a person.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BhagatSingh, post: 112961, member: 2610"] Narayanjot Kaur ji Haha of course! Can't wait to hear them :) I dont know why you are asking me such a question. Where did I imply that...???? :confused: He doesn't say "Thank you" because that [B]would[/B] imply he is thanking someone. He is simply feeling thankful as per this definition: [I]Definitions of [B] thankful[/B] on the Web:[/I] [I]grateful: feeling or showing gratitude; "a grateful heart"; "grateful for the tree's shade"; "a thankful smile" [URL="http://www.google.ca/url?ei=UoXOSsTyL4qHlAfDxbSpCg&sig2=LnO8hdR3ISLwB4rBxQts3A&q=http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn%3Fs%3Dthankful&ei=UoXOSsTyL4qHlAfDxbSpCg&sa=X&oi=define&ct=&cd=1&ved=0CBMQpAMoAA&usg=AFQjCNECtSBHua2fATru4L2lmTH31fC2Vg"][COLOR=#008000]wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn[/COLOR][/URL][/I] Similary using the definition of oppurtuniy... [I]Definitions of [B] opportunity[/B] on the Web:[/I] [I][B]a possibility due to a favorable combination of circumstances[/B]; "the holiday gave us the opportunity to visit Washington"; "now is your chance" [URL="http://www.google.ca/url?ei=n4jOSsfHHJPWlAe7nKipCg&sig2=JkdOLDlkCWhG3YUVTr2G4A&q=http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn%3Fs%3Dopportunity&ei=n4jOSsfHHJPWlAe7nKipCg&sa=X&oi=define&ct=&cd=1&ved=0CBoQpAMoAA&usg=AFQjCNGdY23oe5VilCTCHgEFH3sOyZFp2w"][COLOR=#008000]wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn[/COLOR][/URL][/I] Makes sense... what's so untenable? The latter analogy of George Bush was humour so... ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tejwant Singh ji Creative energy, it seems to be the basis of your argument yet you have spent no time in actually explaining what it means. You have simply stated To the first bit, if Ik Ong Kaar is beyond everything, then what's purpose does he serve? How can you know anything about him or even know if he exists? Why would you then still formulate a sort of description of him? Now the next bit: [I]"Ajuni Sehbung = creative energy" [/I]I finally figured out why you are calling it energy because Ajuni is translated to beyond birth, and sehbung is self-existent... as energy is neither created nor destroyed but is energy self-existent... will have to look into that. But anyhow, this is [B]idiosyncratic [/B](if I may repeat Narayanjot Kaur ji's term). Read the whole mool mantar .. [FONT=TAHOMA][SIZE=1][COLOR=#000080][B]Creative Being Personified.[/B] No Fear. No Hatred. Image Of The Undying, Beyond Birth, Self-Existent.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] We are talking about "people qualities" so ajuni means he is not born of a woman. You cannot start personifying something and then start listing qualities of energy which is clearly non-matter... non person. Also, "no fear and no hatred" are meaningless when talking about energy... but not when talking about a person. [/QUOTE]
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