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    pAnd Guru did not wear Yagyopaveet to end kashtryai Caste.


    God made him to do this to restore faith in
    So did Guru made a first Sikh a Muslim and made fun of idols and Hindu demigods and broke caste and race and regeon by preaching faith in areas outisde India(while Hindu itself is Raceor regiaonal ideintity)


    Did in ony Vedas term Hindu or Muslim comes
    So were are Terms Rama or Hari are Hindu,which book of Hindus tells that they aree Hindu terms.

    If we attach term Hindu with these God then they will lost thier universitalty and will be mere totam gods.So it is due to limited intellect of the writer and lack of sprituality and knoweldge and this will further be clarified after we see it clearer.
    What about Akal,Niranakar,Kartar etc.



    and Namdev Calls Hindu as blind




    attributed to one God.
    I

    Again to one God
    Term Kateeb ie Holy Bible and Holy Kuran is also refered again.


    often Vedas are refered to as scripture but by the way where does any of Veda,Samrit or Puran says that they are Hindu scripture and if any then give referance.Even Two puranas refer Hindus as not from the writer.

    what you say Saguna is only refer as attribute of Nirgunawho is Sarguna(all attributes).

    By giving two quotes what do ytou want to testify that like Hinduism is contracdiction as both form and formless are given.



    give either one form or fromless.If formless then all Forms are that forms but that can not be fixed in hindus which is formed.

    Story says that all demigods of Hindus acted as God of Sikhs Akal wanted them to act and Akal was truly in them as they were false.

    So his Sikhs are been tryed to be told as Hindus while main Head of Kashmeeri Pandit became Sikh.

    It is sahmefull that nonj Hindu helped hindus.Tilak Janju Rakha Prab Taka means Lord(Guru) saved thier(second Party) holy thread and head mark.


    told both are like insect in front of his God
    Akal.

    Stop lieing.

    It is Jage Dharam,Hindu,Sakal Dhund Bhaje ie let rightousness be awaken and let Hinduism which is all mist be broken or fled.


    here in ugrdanti prayer of disappaerance of hindusim is prayed and further in same text descrutions of Devals(temples of deities) is prayed along side end of worship of all deities which may be born or die but only Akal Purakh needs to be worshiped.

    Here this is redicules that pristige of Vedas thing is not in Bani but interpolted by writer and regarding removel of cow thing.

    Guru tells in Krishna Avtar Lord Krishna killing cows and in Ram Avtar the Gomedh(cow killing) Yagna by Lav Kusha and here Guru wanted to tell that Cow for beefs should not be killed by Halal so Dosh ie mistake was in way of killing prevelant at those days and killing was not at all forbiddan.
    (source: A Secular Agenda: For saving our country, For welding it - By Arun Shourie p. 3 - 11).


    Guru Gobind Singh invoked the names of Shiva, Sri and Chandi - Maharaja Ranjit Singh went to Hardwar to bathe in the Ganga and expressed the wish that on his death the diamond and Koh-i-Noor should be gifted to the temple of Jagannath at Puri.
    ***


    and told that all thses neames are of formless ie God of Sikhs.
    he had Muslims also doing some paryers for him so was he a Muslim
    Where di he made Temples of cow while his Muslims subjects and Nirankaris enjoyed beef.

    went to Muslim shrines also to help them.
    Then why was not it placed there? and why did he kept it while he was alive?While as he went to haridwar etc.he should have givne the stuff to Brhimns there and them,perhaps to one who did Yagna for him?

    did he doubted Brhimins.

    Fact is that so called Yagnas were done by Nirmala Pandits to converts more Hindus into faith.

    And what about Sikhs marrying Muslims,the Maharaj Himself.

    And how did caste come when Guru oppsed it.If it came then best was to reomve it as being anti Faith.It was more brought in by some neo converts.

    nails are to be removed and thrwon out and and can never be like flesh so to be more cleared the Hand of Sikhs did had dirt of hinduism below the nail.
    then do it at present if this happened in past.

    And by this saying sikh is Kesdhari Hindu all sorts of Naga (Naked Sanyasi) or Jatils ahve become Sikhs even without knowing an inch of Panth.
    Rulers did this to didivd and rule but same was done to divide Muslims also from rest.Sikhs were misused to supress Hindus and Muslims and rest were also used to act Vice Versa.
    .

    This is sahmefull to deem Swami Ji as leader of Hindus while he beheld Hindu word in wrong esteem.

    Swami Ji misused Hindus and Sikhs alike.
    It was been done more to take care of Christian missioaries and when swami Ji were called to help he ditched Sikhs.

    Was there to remove such things from Sikhs,which were Anti Sikhism which were later removed by Hindus themsleves from thier faith also.
    1. non enrty o lower caste into temple
    2. not crossing teh sea etc.


    This most ridculous thing as majority of Hindus have not read this book.

    There term Hinduism and Anti Sikh rituals coming into Panth are been told as Bad and good name for Hindus is suggested after qouting the holy Puranas themselves.

    Sikh can never be a Punjabi and Hindu and what about Sikhs who were not Punjabis ie at that time only in Mahrashtra and eccan or say Bihar or Assam or say in Afghanistan or Kashmeer or Sindh.
    did DAV endrose Hindus?

    Can Hindu(a race or regeona ) be Etetnal or Sanatan)
    They also often took help of Muslims to oppse Britshers also.


    Jinnah did offer Sikhs the Pakistan and many are still there and many Hindus there also have now converted to Faith.No Arya Samaji anyway left there.


    Sikhs are still there.But Hindus are little.

    Which you can call Hindu.
    It is due to the Fact that many Hindus have no faith in thier old ism termed as Hinduism.
    They were shown as servent of Akal and hense the verbal manifestation of Guru Granth Sahib and that is thier proper place but tell how many books says that devi and devas were Hindu or say living in India,say Shiv Ji could be a Tibbetian or say Vishnu could be alien due to staying in other world.


    So Hindus are told to be dumb and blind in same and Six Philsophis of Hindus are rejected.


    (Khat Darshan)


    Das can tranlate Ram Charitar Manas as worshipping of Akal and not Lord Rama.
    Akal also been told in insect and in poor also in same Dranth so thats what is status of Three gods for Sikhs.They are made to serve Humans and not to be worshipped.
    vishnu is attribute of ouor God and not areal entity..

    Vedvysa also worshipped the Gods of Sikhs and was no where near Hindus.



    Just to let Hindus also renuonce the wroship of Ram and Became Sikh of Akal as family of Rama has also has termed Rama as insect in front of true God Akal.


    So why do not Hindu recalim it back.

    Very shamefull to them.


    Just to show that Rama shouold not be woprshipped by others as his family took refuge to Akal.
    It strang that two were left out by you but thing here is that linage does not matter in us at all as many decdants of Gurus like Minas,Dheerrmalyas and Ramrayas are not to be contacted and Son of Demon Prahlad is respected.

    Spex of racial hinduism must be removed from eyes.

    So where is term of devotion been attached to Vedantic God in any of your scripture before Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

    Had Vedanta OK then Gurmat would not have come.

    Mere knowledge did not casue unity of mankind but casued didivsion so devotion also came in by Akal sending our Gurus.

    See that Vedanta makes fun of rest Five Philosophys and was later to them.Nit older.


    So why can not a newer faith Sikhism can come and which is maore like Islam .

    It is more to do with development of sprituality with mind then any thing to narrow ideolgy.



    Where Durga is termed as Fromless.
    Then Hindus should break the idol of Durga from their Temple to make it formless.Then only use of reverance.

    .

    Only conclusion is that to go with all contradiction is Hinduism and to remove all contradition is Sikhism.

    So Saying Rasool as Rasool,God As Allah and Holy Kuran as word of God and himself as idol braker as per Islamic term by Tenth Master yet shamelessly calling as one stranege thing.

    ].


    If it is in Gita Also then why did Hindus still go by false demi Gods and still tell us to follow the false hood.

    In fact we actuly and practiacly follow Gita and if you be lie us then you coould actly follow Gita by actualy following Akal.

    Incarnations are as false as any other creation be it Temple of Aydhya or Idol of Somnath,which was broken.and will bebroken again.
    Qoute them as das did not find even one verse telling us to wroship them,There are verse telling about Bad people,Muslims or semtic prophets but that does not means that Guru endrose them.

    It is used By Marathi speaking person who makes fun of Rama,Devi and Shiv(Devote Namdev and this Vithal verbly means who can take care of anyone but not the one who dies of the arrow of the hunter.

    Removal of the text is more being dones in Hindus while they remove pages of Manu Samrit even without any attempt to understand it.

    In past veseted interest misinterpreted it and in present they still go by worng interpetations.


    Lord Akal is real Bithal and not

    Here itself differance between Hindus and Sikhs is given.

    Yes Hindus do attempt to act to get Moksha or Nirvana.

    But Sikhs are told to not to aspire anything but surrneder to the will of God(I Do not want Kingdom,I Do not want Mukti,I ask for Love to lotus feet).


    Acting good for result with intention(Kmana) is Hinduism.Acting as Tool of God is Gurmat.

    When Tenth Master was sked about Diffreance between Hindus and Sikhs then he told that they work for reward and Sikh does not work himself/herself but behold God working insode and outiside(Sau Sakhi).

    We folow Gita Better then Hindus.


    Where is Rudra referede to as Vishnu Avtar?

    Mehdi Meer who killes Kalki in which of Hindu book is it writtan?

    And lastly Rishabhdev of Jain is respected in Hindus as Vishnu Avtar but Arhantdev is not beeing told to preach truth in our book.

    And Vishnu is refred as becoming stone after copurese of feamle demon how can he be god(Triya Charitar266).
    Tells them to be working under the order of God of Sikhs like Sufi told them working for Allah.

    Krishna been told begging to A Singh Kharag Singh.

    He refred Durga as Attribute of Akal.He told that Durga Devi was made by Akal(Nirnakar) and lives under Akal's feet and refuge.Even he said that actaul killer of Mahishsur was formless and not Durga.
    :

    So theroy of four Rishis by Swami Dayanand Ji is false.

    But we actualy follow the God mentioned in Vedas but Hindus rather insult that by gooing after demi gods.
    This means that people at that time people did follow veda,such a wrong interpetation that past tense is made as simple present.

    In fact with Guru Granth Sahib there is no need of Veda left or else it would not have come.



    He rather oppsed the Arti of idol by small mater with eternal Arti of Akal being dome constantly.

    How can be handless(called Lula by Nihung) Jaganath be Oankar,who created the universe.



    he went there to preach Sikhism to misguided people,Did went for pilgrimage to Holy Mecca then we are Muslims?


    He did not go to hills but did preach hill people to worship Akal.We wne tot Sufi places also,was he a Muslim?


    the date which is givne for Guru's coming to Aydhya is when Guru was not born or perhaps was in Patna.

    In his Vachitar Natak he gives all details of his wars which were faouth more with Hindus.


    A person who procalimes as Butshikan as per Islam(Jaffernammah),prays to desctrction of Devals(Ugrdanti) and you say that he worshipped Devi or fought for lord Ramah Temple.

    .

    tilak in Panth is of Saffron while Sindur or Chanden is used for Vaishnavs.

    Guru Nanakdev had dress with Ayats of holy Kuran.

    Swrod of Guru Gobind Singh Ji had Allah Ho Akbar writtan over it.
    So what does it mean?

    And why did Guru asked a Muslim Mia Meer to plac the foundation of Golden Temple and why did Sixthe Guru made mosque for Muslims.

    another absud thing.

    Same Vachitar Natak tells that devtas are not devine but people doing Good acts and Surya was man and not sun who started dynsty.
    And from First Guru onward we had concept of Sabad Guru,Guru Panth(See teh verse by Sikhs form lower castes also in Guru Granth Sahib Ji ie Bhai Mardana,Satta,Balwand,Abdulla Bhatt perhaps) and all from Guru Bar Akal(Gur Prasad ie in the form of Guru(God) gives us teaching)
    (
    ***

    so AR Darshi speaks about demon like attributes by ancestors of Hindus and hated by Iranians for that.

    Anyway do you know that Nirnakaris did abused cows and Namdharis term Hindus as per thier sau Sakhi to be elimniated soon.

    And Jaffernammah part of Dasham Granth is here before Britishers came.

    As Hindus were misusing Sikhism under Ranjit Singh it is possible that Purbiya(East UP) convert did help Britishers to get rid of Hindu type Sikh rule.Same people later did help Professor Gurmukh Singh's Lahore Singh Sabha.
    Did Upnishad mention Holy Bible and Holy Kuran.
    So all hindu Jatadhari Sadhu weather comit Adultary,eat Hala or smoke are Sikhs?
    So tell about any of yoy book which talks about Hinduism as religeon or term Hindu as folowor of faith.We have term Sikh in same context witrh our books but you do not ahve any such thing yet such absurd cliams.


    This is another proof of lack of knowledge of own books.

    Vedanta is refreance drwan by Upnishads while writer is thinking them in same line.

    Even had it been OK then all other Puranas etc. could have been rejected.

    But in Vedanta Bhakti does not exist but in us it does exist so are we differant.And also puting ideas in socity.
    And also by Sufi Muslims and they did convert large population of Hindus into Islam in Kashmeer and Bengal and Sindh.

    We have Khushwant Singh saying that at start of 21st centuary we will be absorbed by Hindus,did this happen but same person says that Dasham Granth is not the work of Guru Gobind Singh Ji.Upto you to belive him or not.

    (source: japji Sahib is Based on the Upanishads - By Khuswant Singh - sikhtimes.com).
    ***
    Equating Sikhs with Nastik or non belivers Anti Vedic Budhist or Jains itslef is disrespect to Sikh Panth and this shows that Dasham Granth is not properly read and Guru Granth Sahib but by the nway how can a race or regianl entiy called Hindu has areligeon as its sect is the biggest foolsoh thing to understand.






    As per present law in most democracy one son can be Chrsitain also.We had one Sikh praja Singh converted to Islam yet maintained in family(read book of Hari Ram Gupta)


    And made fun of them and more in Dasham Granth.



    who put Hindus as blind and thier gods as inferioor and part of Akal only

    Wait term Sikh and Shishya was at the time of Vedas or say Santi Kabeer while term Hindu was givne by invaders as derogatroy term yet it was racial and how can race be a faith?

    And Guru Nanak said that those who behold Akal as Guru is Sikh and Saint Kabeer Called himself as Sikh of Akal.


    yuo are misguided as Hinduism is name given to justify salve mentality.

    Derogatory name by oppressor and stillclinging better wouold ahve been using term Sanatan which is anti Hindu.
    So in Iran,Afghansitan and Pakistan there are mnay places where Hindus are no more But Sikhs lives and multiyply.
    Inspite of thier books calling Hindus with something inferior. and themselves considering this term derogatory strange?

    Das know that Since first Master did Gurmukhi being used and was organised by Second Master.

    What about Hiqyats and Jaffernaamh in Faris ladden with Arebic?

    In sha Allah our Hertiage is oldere then Hinduism

    Can same be said for Hindus and Christian perhaps no yet can some one say that Christian and Pakistani are not sepoarte comunities or Negro or Muslim are not spearte community,such things are absurd.
    So if Mon then Hindu and by Mona Hinduism lives and Sikh do not.Sikhs will live after Hindusin as they di before Hindusim.
    Like White race and Christianity or like Negroa and Islam or like Jews and Muslims?Are they one? no off course!
    What are the roots of Sikhism...?
    *

    Do not misused the name of Guru Grtanh Sahib Ji.
    *



    There I with full concnertration did worship of Death of time while your Devi and Shiva are bounded by Time.Same Natak tells maker of Devi Three demigods being born out of feet(refuge) of Akal,who is formless.
    It is ironly that at one place we say that Story of Rama is eternal for ages while Rama has left to hevan(not salvage)
    And next line are Ram Raheem or Puran or Kuran not to be followed.


    First line has been interpolated by you.

    Second line comes somewhere lese and tells to kill Cow by Jhatka some peple say that cow is refree to weak or cowards lie Hindus.

    Then as Das told beofre when Panth Khalsa will come Hinduism ,the whole of mist will disappear.
    no wheere in the Bani of Ninth Master
    As Hindu precives does write but is false.
    Again not in Bani of ?Ninth Master


    It is like that ,in All world Relgeon or way of Khalsa will roar(make trimph).

    Jage Dharam Hindun Sagal Dhundh Bhaje.

    Rithousness will be awaken and all mist of Hindus will alsom disappear as (Dharm will bhe back in them and they will be no longer Hindus and will be Sikh)

    another could be Hindus,who are mist(of flasehood) will run away or disappear.

    And lastly das noted that you did not Give even a one verse from Guru Granth Sahib Ji while leied above that qoutes are from Guru Granth Sahib Ji
    shame on you.
     
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    pAnd Guru did not wear Yagyopaveet to end kashtryai Caste.


    God made him to do this to restore faith in
    So did Guru made a first Sikh a Muslim and made fun of idols and Hindu demigods and broke caste and race and regeon by preaching faith in areas outisde India(while Hindu itself is Raceor regiaonal ideintity)


    Did in ony Vedas term Hindu or Muslim comes
    So were are Terms Rama or Hari are Hindu,which book of Hindus tells that they aree Hindu terms.

    If we attach term Hindu with these God then they will lost thier universitalty and will be mere totam gods.So it is due to limited intellect of the writer and lack of sprituality and knoweldge and this will further be clarified after we see it clearer.
    What about Akal,Niranakar,Kartar etc.



    and Namdev Calls Hindu as blind




    attributed to one God.
    I

    Again to one God
    Term Kateeb ie Holy Bible and Holy Kuran is also refered again.


    often Vedas are refered to as scripture but by the way where does any of Veda,Samrit or Puran says that they are Hindu scripture and if any then give referance.Even Two puranas refer Hindus as not from the writer.

    what you say Saguna is only refer as attribute of Nirgunawho is Sarguna(all attributes).

    By giving two quotes what do ytou want to testify that like Hinduism is contracdiction as both form and formless are given.



    give either one form or fromless.If formless then all Forms are that forms but that can not be fixed in hindus which is formed.

    Story says that all demigods of Hindus acted as God of Sikhs Akal wanted them to act and Akal was truly in them as they were false.

    So his Sikhs are been tryed to be told as Hindus while main Head of Kashmeeri Pandit became Sikh.

    It is sahmefull that nonj Hindu helped hindus.Tilak Janju Rakha Prab Taka means Lord(Guru) saved thier(second Party) holy thread and head mark.


    told both are like insect in front of his God
    Akal.

    Stop lieing.

    It is Jage Dharam,Hindu,Sakal Dhund Bhaje ie let rightousness be awaken and let Hinduism which is all mist be broken or fled.


    here in ugrdanti prayer of disappaerance of hindusim is prayed and further in same text descrutions of Devals(temples of deities) is prayed along side end of worship of all deities which may be born or die but only Akal Purakh needs to be worshiped.

    Here this is redicules that pristige of Vedas thing is not in Bani but interpolted by writer and regarding removel of cow thing.

    Guru tells in Krishna Avtar Lord Krishna killing cows and in Ram Avtar the Gomedh(cow killing) Yagna by Lav Kusha and here Guru wanted to tell that Cow for beefs should not be killed by Halal so Dosh ie mistake was in way of killing prevelant at those days and killing was not at all forbiddan.
    (source: A Secular Agenda: For saving our country, For welding it - By Arun Shourie p. 3 - 11).


    Guru Gobind Singh invoked the names of Shiva, Sri and Chandi - Maharaja Ranjit Singh went to Hardwar to bathe in the Ganga and expressed the wish that on his death the diamond and Koh-i-Noor should be gifted to the temple of Jagannath at Puri.
    ***


    and told that all thses neames are of formless ie God of Sikhs.
    he had Muslims also doing some paryers for him so was he a Muslim
    Where di he made Temples of cow while his Muslims subjects and Nirankaris enjoyed beef.

    went to Muslim shrines also to help them.
    Then why was not it placed there? and why did he kept it while he was alive?While as he went to haridwar etc.he should have givne the stuff to Brhimns there and them,perhaps to one who did Yagna for him?

    did he doubted Brhimins.

    Fact is that so called Yagnas were done by Nirmala Pandits to converts more Hindus into faith.

    And what about Sikhs marrying Muslims,the Maharaj Himself.

    And how did caste come when Guru oppsed it.If it came then best was to reomve it as being anti Faith.It was more brought in by some neo converts.

    nails are to be removed and thrwon out and and can never be like flesh so to be more cleared the Hand of Sikhs did had dirt of hinduism below the nail.
    then do it at present if this happened in past.

    And by this saying sikh is Kesdhari Hindu all sorts of Naga (Naked Sanyasi) or Jatils ahve become Sikhs even without knowing an inch of Panth.
    Rulers did this to didivd and rule but same was done to divide Muslims also from rest.Sikhs were misused to supress Hindus and Muslims and rest were also used to act Vice Versa.
    .

    This is sahmefull to deem Swami Ji as leader of Hindus while he beheld Hindu word in wrong esteem.

    Swami Ji misused Hindus and Sikhs alike.
    It was been done more to take care of Christian missioaries and when swami Ji were called to help he ditched Sikhs.

    Was there to remove such things from Sikhs,which were Anti Sikhism which were later removed by Hindus themsleves from thier faith also.
    1. non enrty o lower caste into temple
    2. not crossing teh sea etc.


    This most ridculous thing as majority of Hindus have not read this book.

    There term Hinduism and Anti Sikh rituals coming into Panth are been told as Bad and good name for Hindus is suggested after qouting the holy Puranas themselves.

    Sikh can never be a Punjabi and Hindu and what about Sikhs who were not Punjabis ie at that time only in Mahrashtra and eccan or say Bihar or Assam or say in Afghanistan or Kashmeer or Sindh.
    did DAV endrose Hindus?

    Can Hindu(a race or regeona ) be Etetnal or Sanatan)
    They also often took help of Muslims to oppse Britshers also.


    Jinnah did offer Sikhs the Pakistan and many are still there and many Hindus there also have now converted to Faith.No Arya Samaji anyway left there.


    Sikhs are still there.But Hindus are little.

    Which you can call Hindu.
    It is due to the Fact that many Hindus have no faith in thier old ism termed as Hinduism.
    They were shown as servent of Akal and hense the verbal manifestation of Guru Granth Sahib and that is thier proper place but tell how many books says that devi and devas were Hindu or say living in India,say Shiv Ji could be a Tibbetian or say Vishnu could be alien due to staying in other world.


    So Hindus are told to be dumb and blind in same and Six Philsophis of Hindus are rejected.


    (Khat Darshan)


    Das can tranlate Ram Charitar Manas as worshipping of Akal and not Lord Rama.
    Akal also been told in insect and in poor also in same Dranth so thats what is status of Three gods for Sikhs.They are made to serve Humans and not to be worshipped.
    vishnu is attribute of ouor God and not areal entity..

    Vedvysa also worshipped the Gods of Sikhs and was no where near Hindus.



    Just to let Hindus also renuonce the wroship of Ram and Became Sikh of Akal as family of Rama has also has termed Rama as insect in front of true God Akal.


    So why do not Hindu recalim it back.

    Very shamefull to them.


    Just to show that Rama shouold not be woprshipped by others as his family took refuge to Akal.
    It strang that two were left out by you but thing here is that linage does not matter in us at all as many decdants of Gurus like Minas,Dheerrmalyas and Ramrayas are not to be contacted and Son of Demon Prahlad is respected.

    Spex of racial hinduism must be removed from eyes.

    So where is term of devotion been attached to Vedantic God in any of your scripture before Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

    Had Vedanta OK then Gurmat would not have come.

    Mere knowledge did not casue unity of mankind but casued didivsion so devotion also came in by Akal sending our Gurus.

    See that Vedanta makes fun of rest Five Philosophys and was later to them.Nit older.


    So why can not a newer faith Sikhism can come and which is maore like Islam .

    It is more to do with development of sprituality with mind then any thing to narrow ideolgy.



    Where Durga is termed as Fromless.
    Then Hindus should break the idol of Durga from their Temple to make it formless.Then only use of reverance.

    .

    Only conclusion is that to go with all contradiction is Hinduism and to remove all contradition is Sikhism.

    So Saying Rasool as Rasool,God As Allah and Holy Kuran as word of God and himself as idol braker as per Islamic term by Tenth Master yet shamelessly calling as one stranege thing.

    ].


    If it is in Gita Also then why did Hindus still go by false demi Gods and still tell us to follow the false hood.

    In fact we actuly and practiacly follow Gita and if you be lie us then you coould actly follow Gita by actualy following Akal.

    Incarnations are as false as any other creation be it Temple of Aydhya or Idol of Somnath,which was broken.and will bebroken again.
    Qoute them as das did not find even one verse telling us to wroship them,There are verse telling about Bad people,Muslims or semtic prophets but that does not means that Guru endrose them.

    It is used By Marathi speaking person who makes fun of Rama,Devi and Shiv(Devote Namdev and this Vithal verbly means who can take care of anyone but not the one who dies of the arrow of the hunter.

    Removal of the text is more being dones in Hindus while they remove pages of Manu Samrit even without any attempt to understand it.

    In past veseted interest misinterpreted it and in present they still go by worng interpetations.


    Lord Akal is real Bithal and not

    Here itself differance between Hindus and Sikhs is given.

    Yes Hindus do attempt to act to get Moksha or Nirvana.

    But Sikhs are told to not to aspire anything but surrneder to the will of God(I Do not want Kingdom,I Do not want Mukti,I ask for Love to lotus feet).


    Acting good for result with intention(Kmana) is Hinduism.Acting as Tool of God is Gurmat.

    When Tenth Master was sked about Diffreance between Hindus and Sikhs then he told that they work for reward and Sikh does not work himself/herself but behold God working insode and outiside(Sau Sakhi).

    We folow Gita Better then Hindus.


    Where is Rudra referede to as Vishnu Avtar?

    Mehdi Meer who killes Kalki in which of Hindu book is it writtan?

    And lastly Rishabhdev of Jain is respected in Hindus as Vishnu Avtar but Arhantdev is not beeing told to preach truth in our book.

    And Vishnu is refred as becoming stone after copurese of feamle demon how can he be god(Triya Charitar266).
    Tells them to be working under the order of God of Sikhs like Sufi told them working for Allah.

    Krishna been told begging to A Singh Kharag Singh.

    He refred Durga as Attribute of Akal.He told that Durga Devi was made by Akal(Nirnakar) and lives under Akal's feet and refuge.Even he said that actaul killer of Mahishsur was formless and not Durga.
    :

    So theroy of four Rishis by Swami Dayanand Ji is false.

    But we actualy follow the God mentioned in Vedas but Hindus rather insult that by gooing after demi gods.
    This means that people at that time people did follow veda,such a wrong interpetation that past tense is made as simple present.

    In fact with Guru Granth Sahib there is no need of Veda left or else it would not have come.



    He rather oppsed the Arti of idol by small mater with eternal Arti of Akal being dome constantly.

    How can be handless(called Lula by Nihung) Jaganath be Oankar,who created the universe.



    he went there to preach Sikhism to misguided people,Did went for pilgrimage to Holy Mecca then we are Muslims?


    He did not go to hills but did preach hill people to worship Akal.We wne tot Sufi places also,was he a Muslim?


    the date which is givne for Guru's coming to Aydhya is when Guru was not born or perhaps was in Patna.

    In his Vachitar Natak he gives all details of his wars which were faouth more with Hindus.


    A person who procalimes as Butshikan as per Islam(Jaffernammah),prays to desctrction of Devals(Ugrdanti) and you say that he worshipped Devi or fought for lord Ramah Temple.

    .

    tilak in Panth is of Saffron while Sindur or Chanden is used for Vaishnavs.

    Guru Nanakdev had dress with Ayats of holy Kuran.

    Swrod of Guru Gobind Singh Ji had Allah Ho Akbar writtan over it.
    So what does it mean?

    And why did Guru asked a Muslim Mia Meer to plac the foundation of Golden Temple and why did Sixthe Guru made mosque for Muslims.

    another absud thing.

    Same Vachitar Natak tells that devtas are not devine but people doing Good acts and Surya was man and not sun who started dynsty.
    And from First Guru onward we had concept of Sabad Guru,Guru Panth(See teh verse by Sikhs form lower castes also in Guru Granth Sahib Ji ie Bhai Mardana,Satta,Balwand,Abdulla Bhatt perhaps) and all from Guru Bar Akal(Gur Prasad ie in the form of Guru(God) gives us teaching)
    (
    ***

    so AR Darshi speaks about demon like attributes by ancestors of Hindus and hated by Iranians for that.

    Anyway do you know that Nirnakaris did abused cows and Namdharis term Hindus as per thier sau Sakhi to be elimniated soon.

    And Jaffernammah part of Dasham Granth is here before Britishers came.

    As Hindus were misusing Sikhism under Ranjit Singh it is possible that Purbiya(East UP) convert did help Britishers to get rid of Hindu type Sikh rule.Same people later did help Professor Gurmukh Singh's Lahore Singh Sabha.
    Did Upnishad mention Holy Bible and Holy Kuran.
    So all hindu Jatadhari Sadhu weather comit Adultary,eat Hala or smoke are Sikhs?
    So tell about any of yoy book which talks about Hinduism as religeon or term Hindu as folowor of faith.We have term Sikh in same context witrh our books but you do not ahve any such thing yet such absurd cliams.


    This is another proof of lack of knowledge of own books.

    Vedanta is refreance drwan by Upnishads while writer is thinking them in same line.

    Even had it been OK then all other Puranas etc. could have been rejected.

    But in Vedanta Bhakti does not exist but in us it does exist so are we differant.And also puting ideas in socity.
    And also by Sufi Muslims and they did convert large population of Hindus into Islam in Kashmeer and Bengal and Sindh.

    We have Khushwant Singh saying that at start of 21st centuary we will be absorbed by Hindus,did this happen but same person says that Dasham Granth is not the work of Guru Gobind Singh Ji.Upto you to belive him or not.

    (source: japji Sahib is Based on the Upanishads - By Khuswant Singh - sikhtimes.com).
    ***
    Equating Sikhs with Nastik or non belivers Anti Vedic Budhist or Jains itslef is disrespect to Sikh Panth and this shows that Dasham Granth is not properly read and Guru Granth Sahib but by the nway how can a race or regianl entiy called Hindu has areligeon as its sect is the biggest foolsoh thing to understand.






    As per present law in most democracy one son can be Chrsitain also.We had one Sikh praja Singh converted to Islam yet maintained in family(read book of Hari Ram Gupta)


    And made fun of them and more in Dasham Granth.



    who put Hindus as blind and thier gods as inferioor and part of Akal only

    Wait term Sikh and Shishya was at the time of Vedas or say Santi Kabeer while term Hindu was givne by invaders as derogatroy term yet it was racial and how can race be a faith?

    And Guru Nanak said that those who behold Akal as Guru is Sikh and Saint Kabeer Called himself as Sikh of Akal.


    yuo are misguided as Hinduism is name given to justify salve mentality.

    Derogatory name by oppressor and stillclinging better wouold ahve been using term Sanatan which is anti Hindu.
    So in Iran,Afghansitan and Pakistan there are mnay places where Hindus are no more But Sikhs lives and multiyply.
    Inspite of thier books calling Hindus with something inferior. and themselves considering this term derogatory strange?

    Das know that Since first Master did Gurmukhi being used and was organised by Second Master.

    What about Hiqyats and Jaffernaamh in Faris ladden with Arebic?

    In sha Allah our Hertiage is oldere then Hinduism

    Can same be said for Hindus and Christian perhaps no yet can some one say that Christian and Pakistani are not sepoarte comunities or Negro or Muslim are not spearte community,such things are absurd.
    So if Mon then Hindu and by Mona Hinduism lives and Sikh do not.Sikhs will live after Hindusin as they di before Hindusim.
    Like White race and Christianity or like Negroa and Islam or like Jews and Muslims?Are they one? no off course!
    What are the roots of Sikhism...?
    *

    Do not misused the name of Guru Grtanh Sahib Ji.
    *



    There I with full concnertration did worship of Death of time while your Devi and Shiva are bounded by Time.Same Natak tells maker of Devi Three demigods being born out of feet(refuge) of Akal,who is formless.
    It is ironly that at one place we say that Story of Rama is eternal for ages while Rama has left to hevan(not salvage)
    And next line are Ram Raheem or Puran or Kuran not to be followed.


    First line has been interpolated by you.

    Second line comes somewhere lese and tells to kill Cow by Jhatka some peple say that cow is refree to weak or cowards lie Hindus.

    Then as Das told beofre when Panth Khalsa will come Hinduism ,the whole of mist will disappear.
    no wheere in the Bani of Ninth Master
    As Hindu precives does write but is false.
    Again not in Bani of ?Ninth Master


    It is like that ,in All world Relgeon or way of Khalsa will roar(make trimph).

    Jage Dharam Hindun Sagal Dhundh Bhaje.

    Rithousness will be awaken and all mist of Hindus will alsom disappear as (Dharm will bhe back in them and they will be no longer Hindus and will be Sikh)

    another could be Hindus,who are mist(of flasehood) will run away or disappear.

    And lastly das noted that you did not Give even a one verse from Guru Granth Sahib Ji while leied above that qoutes are from Guru Granth Sahib Ji
    shame on you.
     
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    Gurfateh

    Das did not want to offend anyone but only wanted to prove that we are real Sanatan Dharama and Hindu race must jooin us.
     
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    Hey, I didn't write this stuff. The Orignal message instructing you to "let me know what you think" was perhaps misleading- I was being ironic. I know it's disgusting.
     
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    Gurfateh

    Das is aware that yourself are not the writer sir.Das replied to writer only.
     
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    vijaydeepsingh,

    You wrote : Stop lying. It is Jage Dharam,Hindu,Sakal Dhund Bhaje
    ie let rightousness be awaken and let Hinduism which is all mist
    be broken or fled.

    Don't you think you put a comma where it ought not to be.
    Jage Dharam Hindu,Sakal Dhund Bhaje...


    And Guru Arjun’s statement, is superficially a crystal-clear expression
    of Sikh separateness. Yet, it is not as straightforward as separatists
    might wish. No Sikh Guru was ever a Muslim, ergo the half-sentence:
    "Of Muslims have I broken free", does not mean that he abandoned Islam.
    Therefore, the other half need not be construed as a repudiation of Hinduism either.
    Nanks "neither Hindu, nor muslim" should be read as repudiating the whole
    'identity' business including the division of mankind into Hindu and Muslim
    categories, on the Upanishadic ground that the Self is beyond these superficial
    trappings (the Self being neti neti, "not this, not that") and that is
    a typically Hindu position.

    Sikhism today is nothing more than religion overtaken by Jats. If somebody says
    Jats do not have any bias/superierioty complex against some other communities
    I'll cut my head. Now I have grown superiority complex against over jat sikhs
    coz while we Sikh are one of most richest/enterprising people around world
    the Jat is nothing more than Taxi Cab community. And they say they are Aryans.
    Because they are fair. The Afghani's are fair. Kashmiri's. Arabs.
    What is their achievement ??
    Is not the Aryan race itself a myth ??

    Thanks.
     
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    I like to make two points here:

    1.) Jats don't say they are Aryans. Most Jats claim to come from Indo-Scythian stock.

    2.) Come to Canada and see how well the Jat-Sikhs are doing there.

    FACT: One of the world's richest Sikh is a Jat. (His name is Didar Singh Bains)
     
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    EDIT: why even bother commenting?

    Anyways, hinduism is not sikhi, and sikhi is not hinduism... nuff said.
     
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    Well, my comment was directed towards to "bulleshah" who made a statement about jatts being a "taxi cab" community (He/She obviously meant this in offensive way).

    But yeah, I don't give a **** about y'all as well.
     
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    so i guess we all agree with each than...

    :rofl:
     
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    LOL.

    Yeah, I guess so.......:D
     
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    BTw, i wantedto know, where the name bains came from, i'm going to *gulp* be changing my user name soon to a more "proper" name. I just wanted to know what it meant.
     
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    To be honest with you, I don’t have any knowledge about “Bains” and their history.
     
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    Well bro have you read Ugradanti?

    If not then there is no need for you to tell das about what to write.

    It is not the part of offical version of Dasham Granth but one from Patna Sahib and is read by Nihangs and Namdhari each morning.

    It is prayer said to be by Guru to Akal(energy Amit Ouj) manifesation in time ie Power(Shakti).

    There worshipper prays for destrcution of Temples and mosques.

    As per writer, All old faith are already elminated so are Vedas and Kurans.

    Prayer is made for destruction of all the worshipped things who are born or will die.
    AND LET THIRD FAITH REMAIN IE KHALSA.

    Then coming to Upnishad or vedantic concept.That is from Lord Ved Vysa but similar things are full in Islamic and older Semtic books also and much more clearer.And Gurmat puts something theoratical concpet of Vedanta in real life else Vedanta would not hve been looser to Karm Yogi Muslims.

    Muslims have fairer chance to prove first Master as Muslim then say Hindus.But thing is that we as Sanatan Dharmi Sikh do belive that all books and holy men from same source ie Akal.

    This also wrong to be biased for jatts what you cal jaat as Takhats outside Punjab are more in control of trade men.Das can say that there could be some problem in punajb with sgpce but in AKJ or Sant Samaj or say Nihungs caste is getting weaker.

    In fact caste is anti to Sanatan Dharmi scripture of Vedas and Manusamriti also.So Aryan is more a civilised person then race and jaat could be more a farmer then race.

    Hindu is a racial or geogrphical term so no place in universal faith of Gurmat,which das says with support of Jathedar of Patna Sahib that is Sanatan Dharma,ie ancestors of all mankind were Sikhs.all other faiths are mere offshoots.

    Faith not started by First Master but by Akal and Brham,Vishnu and Mahesha were initial Three Sikhs,and we get our linage from them only.
     
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    J.A.T.T-ji,

    Nice to know you don't care but then why provide proof of your being civilized
    by mentioning that rich jatt you are so proud as if his riches are coming to you
    after his death ??

    Mittal is the richest Britanian but what does it mean for me. Nothing.
    Despite the fact he still carries his Indian Passport...

    Forget it...

    OK...

    "I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.
    I serve the One Lord, and not any other. || 2 || I do not perform Hindu worship
    services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers. I have taken the One Formless Lord
    into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. || 3 || I am not a Hindu, nor am I
    a Muslim. My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both."
    - Guru Granth Sahib (Page 1136)

    Now what's so gret about that. I mean saying something that was already said
    by hundreds of people before.

    The Rig Veda says :
    "Ekam Sat, Viprah Bahudha Vadanti".
    (There is only one truth, only men describe it in different ways).

    There you are and further...

    "The Divine Thread started everything.
    The knower of the Thread is a yogi, his Knowledge is beyond the scope of the Vedas.
    Pearls stringed together form an ornament. The Divine Thread holds together the Universe.
    The Yogi wears this Thread when he becomes aware of his Divinity.
    Established in highest state of Yoga, the yogi discards the external thread.
    The wearer of the Thread of Knowledge is never unclean. The Thread exists within him.
    Knowledge is the greatest purifier." - - -
    Brahma Upanishad - - -

    "The misguided ones who delight in the melodious chanting of the
    Veda - without understanding the real purpose of the Vedas - think,
    O Arjuna, as if there is nothing else in the Vedas except the rituals
    for the sole purpose of obtaining heavenly enjoyment."
    - - - 2.42 - The Geeta - - -


    "To a Self-realized person the Vedas are as useful as a small reservoir of
    water when the water of a huge lake becomes available."


    - - - 2.46 - The Geeta - - -

    There is nothing new in that shloka of Nanak. His principles are very much
    and decidedly Hindu and Bedic.

    Thanks.

    Maade jatt katori labbi paani pee pee aaphar gaya
     
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    Das will write the verse of Ugradanti Again

    Jagge Dharam Hindun(Read it is not Hindu but hindun ie Plural) Sagal Dhund Bhaje.


    Dharm/rithouness or faith can not be Hindus but had to be Hinduwhy plural.This may mean Let the faith/righusness of Hindus be awaken and all mist be runn off.
    or Let Faith be awaken and Hindus all mist be broken or run away.

    Das wants you to learn Braj Bhash or Sanskrit and for that Chetan Mathh of Nirmalas can be of some help.But do not go to Gurukul Kangari as they rape the Salishti Karan of verse .Salishti Karan is a sort of Alankar or ornament,where same line may means two differnt meaning for differnt people or coded langauge.
    holy Vedas also have various hiiden scinfic truth which Gurbani has in that claerly.

    Same can be said for Four holy Semtic Books.
     
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    1. Don’t take my “I don’t give ****” comment seriously. It was suppose to be a joke, but if I offended you (or anybody else) I apologize for my comment.

    2. The reason why made the Jatt comment because you claim Jatts are just a “taxi cab” community which is not accurate at all. Now I can easily ask you why should it matter how successful Sikhs are in the world as well. (You made a comment about how Sikhs are one of most richest/enterprising people around world while the Jat is nothing more than Taxi Cab community.)

    3. As for quote I have in my signature, well the reason why I posted that quote in my signature because I have seen a lot of topics on this site regarding if Sikhi is another sect of Hinduism or Islam. So make it clear, Sikhi is not part of Hinduism or Islam according to the Guru Granth Sahib. That’s why I find the quote to be so great to me.

    4. I can easily claim that Guru Nanak Ji got his messages/principals from Sufis as well.

    Anyway, while you are at it, why not make claims of other Holy men/prophets getting their principles from the Vedas? They all pretty much preach the same or at least similar principle/message. So does this mean that their principles are very much and decidedly Hindu and Bedic as well?
     
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    J.A.T.T,

    HTML:
    "I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.
    I serve the One Lord, and not any other. || 2 || I do not perform Hindu worship
    services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers. I have taken the One Formless Lord
    into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. || 3 || I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.
    My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both."
    - Guru Granth Sahib (Page 1136) 
    I do not waste time making pilgrimage to Pakistan(Nanakana-Ji), nor do I worship
    at Stone buildings built by NRI money. I serve the One Lord, and not any other.
    I do not perform Hindu worship services, not the Muslim prayers and not even
    Ardas/ek-om-akar-sat-naam etc. like a parrot prompted by other parrots.
    I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there
    (in my heart). I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim, not a Sikh. My body and breath
    of life belong to Allah - to Raam - to Wahe Guru - the God of all.

    Thanks.
     
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    Dear Friend ,



    well so are rreally great thinker and solved the riddle for us all that everything was already written then what was the need to Write again by the great Baba Guru Nanak Dev Ji
    well the reason I can think is already written By Graet Bhagat Namdev ji he writes


    ihMdU AMn@w qurkU kwxw ]
    hi(n)dhoo a(n)nhaa thurakoo kaanaa ||
    The Hindu is sightless; the Muslim has only one eye.

    Well may Hindu was blind enough mentally to really read the message in vedas so He sent he came down to open eyes of hindu give the other eye to Muslim .


    well he has also written some other interesting that might help you to start see again Best of luck!


    here it is for your reference


    iblwvlu goNf ]
    bilaaval go(n)add ||
    Bilaaval Gond:

    Awju nwmy bITlu dyiKAw mUrK ko smJwaU ry ] rhwau ]
    aaj naamae beet(h)al dhaekhiaa moorakh ko samajhaaoo rae || rehaao ||
    Today, Naam Dayv saw the Lord, and so I will instruct the ignorant. ||Pause||

    pWfy qumrI gwieqRI loDy kw Kyqu KwqI QI ]
    paa(n)ddae thumaree gaaeithree lodhhae kaa khaeth khaathee thhee ||
    O Pandit, O religious scholar, your Gayatri was grazing in the fields.

    lY kir Tygw tgrI qorI lWgq lWgq jwqI QI ]1]
    lai kar t(h)aegaa ttagaree thoree laa(n)gath laa(n)gath jaathee thhee ||1||
    Taking a stick, the farmer broke its leg, and now it walks with a limp. ||1||

    pWfy qumrw mhwdyau Dauly bld ciVAw Awvqu dyiKAw Qw ]
    paa(n)ddae thumaraa mehaadhaeo dhhoulae baladh charriaa aavath dhaekhiaa thhaa ||
    O Pandit, I saw your great god Shiva, riding along on a white bull.

    modI ky Gr Kwxw pwkw vw kw lVkw mwirAw Qw ]2]
    modhee kae ghar khaanaa paakaa vaa kaa larrakaa maariaa thhaa ||2||
    In the merchant's house, a banquet was prepared for him - he killed the merchant's son. ||2||

    pWfy qumrw rwmcMdu so BI Awvqu dyiKAw Qw ]
    paa(n)ddae thumaraa raamacha(n)dh so bhee aavath dhaekhiaa thhaa ||
    O Pandit, I saw your Raam Chand coming too

    rwvn syqI srbr hoeI Gr kI joie gvweI QI ]3]
    raavan saethee sarabar hoee ghar kee joe gavaaee thhee ||3||
    ; he lost his wife, fighting a war against Raawan. ||3||

    ihMdU AMn@w qurkU kwxw ]
    hi(n)dhoo a(n)nhaa thurakoo kaanaa ||
    The Hindu is sightless; the Muslim has only one eye.

    duhW qy igAwnI isAwxw ]
    dhuhaa(n) thae giaanee siaanaa ||
    The spiritual teacher is wiser than both of them.

    ihMdU pUjY dyhurw muslmwxu msIiq ]
    hi(n)dhoo poojai dhaehuraa musalamaan maseeth ||
    The Hindu worships at the temple, the Muslim at the mosque.

    nwmy soeI syivAw jh dyhurw n msIiq ]4]3]7]
    naamae soee saeviaa jeh dhaehuraa n maseeth ||4||3||7||
    Naam Dayv serves that Lord, who is not limited to either the temple or the mosque. ||4||3||7||






    Jatinder Singh
     

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