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Legal Robbery and Stolen Property: If Recovered, Mode of Delivery

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  1. rajneesh madhok

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    • General: A few days back about 20-25 ladies assembled in a house to attend a kitty party. A kitty party is a get together of usually housewives where the party is held in one lady’s house every month. On this date one lady gets the collected sum of money from all the ladies e.g. Rs 2,000 from each lady. The amount so collected from 25 ladies i.e. Rs 50,000 is being provided to one lady. Every lady get the the amount of Rs 50,000 turn wise turn. In this party the food is arranged by the hostess, a few games, gossiping, tambola and so are being played. It is actually a way of time pass and saving and sense of belonging to group and get together. Actually this party of ladies is called that they enjoy the party themselves by talking whole lot of nonsense during lunch. They spend a lot on luchean/ dinner get togethers. In these parties male members are not allowed as they talk mostly vulgar and against the male members. Now we come to the point. In this party mostly the ladies try to show off the jewelries having in their possession.

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    1.First incident: Five days back: In our town the house wives/ working ladies were assembled in a house due to Kitty party and the party was going on. About 20-25 minutes later two boys came to the house. One of them was having revolver in his hands. He ordered the ladies to put off jewelery and ordered all of them to put in their hand bags. All the ladies put all the jewelleries in their possession in their hand bags. One of them collected all the bags with cash and jewellery. Then all the ladies were ordered to put off their Salwars, Jeans or trousers whatever they have put on. All the ladies put off their salwars/ jeans/ trousers and they collected all those garments and put on the side and decamped with the jewelery of more than 100 tolas of Gold, diamond with cash and mobile handsets.

    • Yesterday an old NRI woman whose house was getting white washed and painting. Due to the fear of loss of her belongings she put jewellery of 45 tolas, cash about Rs 1 lakh and other valuables and documents like Passport, registration deed and other documents. She was going to the other relatives house to put all the belongings alongwith a relative. Two boys came on the motor bike and decamped with all belongings.
    • Day before yesterday: Two cars got stolen one Volkswagen Vento Car and the other Hyundai Verna got stolen from the locality in one day.
    • 4 days back someone stolen laptop and bag containing cash after breaking window pane of a car outside a children hospital.
    • 4 days back the motor bike of a person got stolen on the same point just beside the hospital.
    • 5 days back one of my friend was doing morning walk in a park. During that period a guy called to another on mobile phone. Within few minutes another boy came on the motor bike on that spot. The firstone snatched the gold chain around put on his neck. As the gold chain was having 10 tolas weight, in that incident my friend got deep cut on the neck about ½ inch. After snatching the chain the guys went off.
    • A week back an NRI lady has come to meet her relatives in our town She had put a hand bag in the rickshaw. Two guys came from back and snatched the hand bag with jewelery and valuables and gone away.
    • Last week one of my friend’s daughter was studying in her room. About 11:30 P.M. her internet connection on the Lap top disconnected. She came out from her room and viewed the connectivity in other room. In that room the connection got connected. When se went to her room, after 5 minutes again the connection disconnected. By that she packed her study material and got asleep. In the morning most of the electronic items of the house has been stolen. Lap-top, Mobile sets and all electronic gadgets.
    • One of my friend’s Motor cycle got stolen about five months back from our town. He made the report in the local police station. As our town was not his home town, he had come to our town to enquire about the health of his father in law and put the motor bike at the parking of the hospital. That motor cycle go stolen. After about 5 months he came again in our town and put his other Scooter outside the gate of his in-laws. His scooter got stolen. He went to Police station to report the matter. On his visit his son noticed that their old motor cycle was lying in the Police station parking. He told to his Papa and after carefully noticing they were confident that that motor bike was their. At this they approached that S.H.O’s office and requested concerned Munshi (Clerk) to provide the delivery of that motor bike. He was directed to come the other day. On his numerous visits he could not get the delivery. One day he got the reference letter from his relative from his home town from I.G. office, on putting the reference letter before the S.H.O. he was directed that O.K. when Sahib has recommended, you will get the possession. He was directed to come tomorrow. That person keep on visiting the concerned police station for about seven days,. The S.H.O. was not available in the police station due to the visit of Brother-in-law of the Deputy Chief Minister in the town and all the administration was busy in checking the law and order position. After about seven days the person met with S.H.O. and he got delivery of the motor bike out of the way. He was directed that the Motor bike’s papers will be provided to you after 10 days, and he had been called after 10 days to visit to the local courts and get the delivery of the Motor bike by Judicial magistrate. The judicial magistrate put four hearings, Rs 2,000 spent to hire Lawyer’s services and the magistrate after four hearings requested by that person that kindly make judgement because I have to visit from the other city and there is wastage of time and energy. On request after so much scolding by the Judge the motor bike got released. The Police department on that moment not provided delivery and asked him, where are you going. Come here-----------. After that he was told that you will get delivery after 15 days at another city about 100 kms of that town. The minister will come on that day and he will provide delivery of documents of all the stolen vehicles. After 15 days on the particular day that gentleman reached that particular place. Keep on waiting for the minister. The Hon’ble Minister came at about 5 P.M. and he got delivery of motor bike registration deed and thanked to the Minister and the police department for providing the delivery of the motor bike.
    • This is the routine, every body is passing his time on God’s mercy.
    Rajneesh Madhok
     
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    Re: Robbery and stolen property, if recovered mode of delivery

    Now Rajneesh Madhok ji coming back to your post there is a fundamental issue and it goes back to corruption in many a ways. A society which tolerates thievery in high places and up and down the civil service breeds an environment for those who are not part of that chain. Petty thieves, robbers and just plain old criminals. As such take great comfort from the fact that all law agencies are pretty busy filling their own pockets versus helping victims. As history tells us, crime appears to only grow and not diminish unless there is a dramatic change in the system of a country.

    What will be needed is a revolution in India. Anna Hazare will spark one, I don't know! But something like that and with such ideals needs to take firm and ruthless hold.

    Sat Sri Akal.
     
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    Re: Robbery and stolen property, if recovered mode of delivery

    Thanks, for the suggestion to move the thread, Ambarsaria ji...as I had intended tomove it to Legal and Advisory, then was distracted. Thread has been moved.
     
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    Re: Robbery and stolen property, if recovered mode of delivery

    1. Actually the problem is that the society is not dedicated to Deity, the assembly for religious purpose in middle and high class society is becoming negligible.
    2. We people visit temples and participate in other religious functions just to make formalities. If there is Bhagwati Jagran, everybody used to visit the place, have dinner and during Bhagwati Jagran we make presence and on the completion of first AArti i.e. Ganesh Puja, more than 75% public leave the premises.
    3. When there is a Rasam Pagri/ Bhog we people attend the function just for 5-10 minutes. This function is considered more like a political debate and there is a competition of paying homage to the departed soul just to highlight and score political benefits.
    4. Lord Krishana's teachings in Bhagvad Geeta to mankind with the concept of Duty like Karm yog, Gyan Yog and Bhakti Yog. We don't try to listen to the teachings but keep on talking without having interest of the teachings of the Holy Bhagvad Geeta.
    5. We pretend to be religious and try to hotch-potch properties of temples, make misaproriation of funds.
    6. I am not talking about only Hinduism but as per Bhagvad Gita the formula apply to entire human being which propounded Dharma including Karma Yog, Gyan yog and Bhakti yog. We are going far away from the teachings dedicated to humanity.
    7. If there is a religious function we try to participate and complete formalities, and in case there is marriage function we devote hours continuously on functions on the other hand we have no interest on the functions performed and concerned with religious matters.
    8. As per Bhagvad Gita just a person casts off worn-out garments and puts on others that are new, even so does the emobodied soul cast off worn out bodies and take on others that are new. The eternal does not move from place to place but the embodied soul moves from one abode to another. it takes birth each time and gathers to itself a mind, life and body formed out of the materials of nature according to its past evolution and its need for the future. The psychic being is the vijnana which supports the triple manifestation of body (anna), life (prana) and mind (manas). When the gross physical body falls away, the vital and metal sheaths still remain as the vehicle of the soul. Rebirth is a law of nature. There is an objective connection between the ripens and like corn is he born again.
    So, we should live life as per teaching that the self is neither pierced, nor burnt by fire, nor made damp by water, nor dried up by wind, weapons do not clave this self, fire does not burn him, waters do not make him wet nor does the wind make him dry.
    So we should concentrate more and more to the almighty and should take part in religious purposes and should be attached to HIM.
    But now the society is moving far away from His teachings that is the cause of our grievances.
    Now I come to the point of fundamental issues which is concerned with corruption. The corruption arises due to non following the teachings of our holy books. This is the reason that the society is going down to the ditch and as per Sinnerji's post that we do Karmas, and pretend to follow dharma but we are not ashamed of our deeds. (Karma bhi hai, dharm bhi hai par sharm nahin hai). We are adopting wrong path. The above mentioned situation arise because we are being misguided (Path-bhrasht) by the dazzling look and seduction of the people those are pretending that they are enjoying the life with misguided ways with enthusiasm. The law enforcing agencies are really concerned to fill their pockets and are least interested to provide law and order. The crime rate will keep on increasing because the Government and the bureaucrats are more intersted in accumulating vast empires and properties.
    Whether new revolution will come? The spark of Anna Hazare will be extinguished in a month or two. We are interested in making news but nothing practical has been come in to surface till date. No firm and ruthless decisions have been taken so far.

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    Rajneesh Madhok
     
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    Re: Robbery and stolen property, if recovered mode of delivery

    Some recent posts have been moved to a new thread. This thread, per my understanding, was intended to be a kind of legal notice pertaining to crime and lack of legal accountability. Subsequently the conversation threaded in a different direction, a personal account of one of our members. The new thread is Close Brush with the Law, a Personal Story

    http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/business-and-lifestyle/37045-close-brush-with-law-personal-story.html

    Let's stay on topic. Thank you.
     

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