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Really Creepy Ideology And Really Creepy View Of Some People Towards Sikhi Saroop !
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<blockquote data-quote="Seeker2013" data-source="post: 203120" data-attributes="member: 19755"><p>actually you made me think twice <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /> TBH I have had this thought myself. Considering nothing is hidden from hir (I will call god 'hir' , not him or her, as god is not male/female). If I think the way I do, hir will definitely know it instantly. Infact, hir already knows I wud think so in future.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>TBH, my whole sexuality is a big imbroglio -_- .</p><p>I am the kind of man who could never be respected among people, in my country, in my lifetime.</p><p>I am the object of ridicule and shame. The sorrow of being an invisible outcast is there, it stabs me inside everytime I see a 20 - something happy couple and wonder to the god in my mann "Why?" </p><p>When I sometimes feel sorrow and pain of my sexuality and future , I am forced to think what wrong I did to deserve this ? why I had to be in that tiny minority of 3-5% of men who're like this ? men who're not even considered 'real man' (whatever the hell that means ) by society at large.</p><p>Men who for the most part have no family and live desolate lives.</p><p></p><p><strong>most people my age get all excited for their future. they plan weddings. what do I have to look forward to ? tell me !? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /> </strong></p><p></p><p>my parents will leave me one by one . and I will be left alone, with no siblings, no family ! isn't that scary . </p><p></p><p>but then a divine voice comes from within the heart "aren't these pompous weddings of "normal" people </p><p>temporary too in the grand scale of things.</p><p></p><p>Just few days back as I was terrorized by these thought and felt like I had nowhere to turn to with my pain, I turned to where I always turn to , Sri Guru Granth sahib, my living guru .</p><p></p><p>As I sat on the tabeya and lifted rumala sahib, I started crying . </p><p>The kind of cry you have when you're in pain and someone close to you hugs you. </p><p></p><p>I had asked in ardas</p><p> "why you listen to some people's prayer and other people don't get relief ? </p><p>who will take care of me ? </p><p>will I ever become straight or not by your grace so that I may lead a grihast jeevan? will you not pardon my previous karmas that led me to be born as gay?"</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਸੋਰਠਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਮਹਲਾ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A9%A9" target="_blank">੩ </a>॥</p><p>Sorat'h, Third Mehl:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank">ਸੋ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਸਿਖੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਸਖਾ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਬੰਧਪੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88" target="_blank">ਹੈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88" target="_blank">ਭਾਈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਜਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank">ਗੁਰ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87" target="_blank">ਕੇ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%87" target="_blank">ਭਾਣੇ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਵਿਚਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88" target="_blank">ਆਵੈ </a>॥</p><p>He alone is a Sikh, a friend, a relative and a sibling, who walks in the Way of the Guru's Will.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%88" target="_blank">ਆਪਣੈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%88" target="_blank">ਭਾਣੈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank">ਜੋ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%88" target="_blank">ਚਲੈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88" target="_blank">ਭਾਈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%9B%E0%A9%81%E0%A9%9C%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਵਿਛੁੜਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਚੋਟਾ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88" target="_blank">ਖਾਵੈ </a>॥</p><p>One who walks according to his own will, O Siblings of Destiny, suffers separation from the Lord, and shall be punished.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਬਿਨੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank">ਸਤਿਗੁਰ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਸੁਖੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87" target="_blank">ਕਦੇ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank">ਨ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88" target="_blank">ਪਾਵੈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88" target="_blank">ਭਾਈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AB%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%9B%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88" target="_blank">ਪਛੋਤਾਵੈ </a>॥੧॥</p><p>Without the True Guru, peace is never obtained, O Siblings of Destiny; again and again, he regrets and repents. ||1||</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਹਰਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87" target="_blank">ਕੇ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B8" target="_blank">ਦਾਸ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%87" target="_blank">ਸੁਹੇਲੇ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88" target="_blank">ਭਾਈ </a>॥</p><p>The Lord's slaves are happy, O Siblings of Destiny.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%AE" target="_blank">ਜਨਮ ਜਨਮ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87" target="_blank">ਕੇ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96" target="_blank">ਕਿਲਬਿਖ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%96" target="_blank">ਦੁਖ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%9F%E0%A9%87" target="_blank">ਕਾਟੇ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank">ਆਪੇ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਮੇਲਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88" target="_blank">ਮਿਲਾਈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A5%A5" target="_blank">॥ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%89" target="_blank">ਰਹਾਉ </a>॥</p><p>The sins and sorrows of countless lifetimes are eradicated; the Lord Himself unites them in His Union. ||Pause||</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਇਹੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%9F%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਕੁਟੰਬੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਸਭੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%85" target="_blank">ਜੀਅ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87" target="_blank">ਕੇ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank">ਬੰਧਨ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88" target="_blank">ਭਾਈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਭਰਮਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਭੁਲਾ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%88%E0%A8%82%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਸੈਂਸਾਰਾ </a>॥</p><p>All of these relatives are like chains upon the soul, O Siblings of Destiny; the world is deluded by doubt.</p><p><span style="color: #8000ff">(because I was praying for a family of my own with wife and kids ) </span></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਬਿਨੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank">ਗੁਰ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank">ਬੰਧਨ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9F%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਟੂਟਹਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80" target="_blank">ਨਾਹੀ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%96" target="_blank">ਮੋਖ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਦੁਆਰਾ </a>॥</p><p>Without the Guru, the chains cannot be broken; the Gurmukhs find the door of salvation.</p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE" target="_blank">ਕਰਮ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਕਰਹਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank">ਗੁਰ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਸਬਦੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank">ਨ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%9B%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਪਛਾਣਹਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਮਰਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਜਨਮਹਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank">ਵਾਰੋ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਵਾਰਾ </a>॥੨॥</p><p>One who performs rituals without realizing the Word of the Guru's Shabad, shall die and be reborn, again and again. ||2||</p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%89" target="_blank">ਹਉ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਮੇਰਾ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਜਗੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਪਲਚਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86" target="_blank">ਰਹਿਆ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88" target="_blank">ਭਾਈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%87" target="_blank">ਕੋਇ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank">ਨ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8" target="_blank">ਕਿਸ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80" target="_blank">ਹੀ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਕੇਰਾ </a>॥</p><p>The world is entangled in egotism and possessiveness, O Siblings of Destiny, but no one belongs to anyone else.</p><p><span style="color: #8000ff">(because I often felt I should have someone to look forward to lest I become alone in life)</span></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਮਹਲੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਪਾਇਨਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A3" target="_blank">ਗੁਣ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਗਾਵਨਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%9C" target="_blank">ਨਿਜ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਘਰਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%87" target="_blank">ਹੋਇ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਬਸੇਰਾ </a>॥</p><p>The Gurmukhs attain the Mansion of the Lord's Presence, singing the Glories of the Lord; they dwell in the home of their own inner being.</p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%90%E0%A8%A5%E0%A9%88" target="_blank">ਐਥੈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%9D%E0%A9%88" target="_blank">ਬੂਝੈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਸੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਆਪੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%9B%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%88" target="_blank">ਪਛਾਣੈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਹਰਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਪ੍ਰਭੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88" target="_blank">ਹੈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਤਿਸੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਕੇਰਾ </a>॥੩॥</p><p>One who understands here, realizes himself; the Lord God belongs to him. ||3||</p><p>(because I felt I will be alone)</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%82" target="_blank">ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਸਦਾ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਦਇਆਲੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88" target="_blank">ਹੈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88" target="_blank">ਭਾਈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਵਿਣੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਭਾਗਾ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86" target="_blank">ਕਿਆ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88%E0%A8%90" target="_blank">ਪਾਈਐ </a>॥</p><p>The True Guru is forever merciful, O Siblings of Destiny; without good destiny, what can anyone obtain?</p><p><span style="color: #8000ff">(because I asked god to make me straight)</span></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95" target="_blank">ਏਕ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਨਦਰਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਕਰਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%88" target="_blank">ਵੇਖੈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AD" target="_blank">ਸਭ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8A%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਊਪਰਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਜੇਹਾ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%89" target="_blank">ਭਾਉ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਤੇਹਾ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AB%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਫਲੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88%E0%A8%90" target="_blank">ਪਾਈਐ </a>॥</p><p>He looks alike upon all with His Glance of Grace, but people receive the fruits of their rewards according to their love for the Lord.</p><p><span style="color: #8000ff">(why you listen to some people's prayer and other people don't get relief ? )</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95" target="_blank">ਨਾਨਕ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਨਾਮੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%88" target="_blank">ਵਸੈ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank">ਮਨ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਅੰਤਰਿ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਵਿਚਹੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਆਪੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88%E0%A8%90" target="_blank">ਗਵਾਈਐ </a>॥੪॥੬॥</p><p>O Nanak, when the Naam, the Name of the Lord, comes to dwell within the mind, then self-conceit is eradicated from within. ||4||6||</p><p></p><p>I realized guru ji had answered my doubts. but still it made me sad that guru had said "<a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਵਿਣੁ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਭਾਗਾ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86" target="_blank">ਕਿਆ </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88%E0%A8%90" target="_blank">ਪਾਈਐ </a>॥ without good destiny, what can anyone obtain?"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>actually have heard this argument very commonly from sikh preachers. </p><p>true, but seriously even if I agree with this advice of gursikh, what do I do with that advice ?</p><p>take amrit and remain single for life? spend whole life worshiping god ? </p><p></p><p></p><p>the fear of slippery slope is always there and you have to be on guards against your own self. </p><p>Imagine me having something with a guy, and a constable catched us and roughens me up, because gay is still illegal in india. and next day I swear I will leave all this and surrender to guru. My mind imagines all sort of things.</p><p>but I feel like my orientation is such that surrendering to god is my only option <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I often see wandering stray dogs and it makes me feel scared. like what they must have done to deserve this .</p><p></p><p></p><p>true it is ! but the other part of my mind who is skeptic wants me to look dude, ripped body with latest hairstyle, hooking with likewise cute guys. Its all maya, but what do I do ? my mind is such it wants that too . </p><p></p><p></p><p>so I be a nun for life ? </p><p>I feel like returning to guru at some point of life is my only option . considering I don't envision a rocking life ahead. what options do I have ? marrying a woman would be miserable, can't be with a man. </p><p>but right now I feel like I can't handle a long beard, long mustaches, etc .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Seeker2013, post: 203120, member: 19755"] actually you made me think twice :( TBH I have had this thought myself. Considering nothing is hidden from hir (I will call god 'hir' , not him or her, as god is not male/female). If I think the way I do, hir will definitely know it instantly. Infact, hir already knows I wud think so in future. TBH, my whole sexuality is a big imbroglio -_- . I am the kind of man who could never be respected among people, in my country, in my lifetime. I am the object of ridicule and shame. The sorrow of being an invisible outcast is there, it stabs me inside everytime I see a 20 - something happy couple and wonder to the god in my mann "Why?" When I sometimes feel sorrow and pain of my sexuality and future , I am forced to think what wrong I did to deserve this ? why I had to be in that tiny minority of 3-5% of men who're like this ? men who're not even considered 'real man' (whatever the hell that means ) by society at large. Men who for the most part have no family and live desolate lives. [B]most people my age get all excited for their future. they plan weddings. what do I have to look forward to ? tell me !? :( [/B] my parents will leave me one by one . and I will be left alone, with no siblings, no family ! isn't that scary . but then a divine voice comes from within the heart "aren't these pompous weddings of "normal" people temporary too in the grand scale of things. Just few days back as I was terrorized by these thought and felt like I had nowhere to turn to with my pain, I turned to where I always turn to , Sri Guru Granth sahib, my living guru . As I sat on the tabeya and lifted rumala sahib, I started crying . The kind of cry you have when you're in pain and someone close to you hugs you. I had asked in ardas "why you listen to some people's prayer and other people don't get relief ? who will take care of me ? will I ever become straight or not by your grace so that I may lead a grihast jeevan? will you not pardon my previous karmas that led me to be born as gay?" [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A0%E0%A8%BF']ਸੋਰਠਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE']ਮਹਲਾ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A9%A9']੩ [/URL]॥ Sorat'h, Third Mehl: [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%8B']ਸੋ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%81']ਸਿਖੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BE']ਸਖਾ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81']ਬੰਧਪੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88']ਹੈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88']ਭਾਈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF']ਜਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0']ਗੁਰ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87']ਕੇ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%87']ਭਾਣੇ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BF']ਵਿਚਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88']ਆਵੈ [/URL]॥ He alone is a Sikh, a friend, a relative and a sibling, who walks in the Way of the Guru's Will. [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%88']ਆਪਣੈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%88']ਭਾਣੈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B']ਜੋ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%88']ਚਲੈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88']ਭਾਈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%9B%E0%A9%81%E0%A9%9C%E0%A8%BF']ਵਿਛੁੜਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%BE']ਚੋਟਾ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88']ਖਾਵੈ [/URL]॥ One who walks according to his own will, O Siblings of Destiny, suffers separation from the Lord, and shall be punished. [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81']ਬਿਨੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0']ਸਤਿਗੁਰ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%81']ਸੁਖੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87']ਕਦੇ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8']ਨ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88']ਪਾਵੈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88']ਭਾਈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AB%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF']ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%9B%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88']ਪਛੋਤਾਵੈ [/URL]॥੧॥ Without the True Guru, peace is never obtained, O Siblings of Destiny; again and again, he regrets and repents. ||1|| [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF']ਹਰਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87']ਕੇ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B8']ਦਾਸ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%87']ਸੁਹੇਲੇ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88']ਭਾਈ [/URL]॥ The Lord's slaves are happy, O Siblings of Destiny. [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%AE']ਜਨਮ ਜਨਮ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87']ਕੇ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96']ਕਿਲਬਿਖ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%96']ਦੁਖ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%9F%E0%A9%87']ਕਾਟੇ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87']ਆਪੇ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF']ਮੇਲਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88']ਮਿਲਾਈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A5%A5']॥ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%89']ਰਹਾਉ [/URL]॥ The sins and sorrows of countless lifetimes are eradicated; the Lord Himself unites them in His Union. ||Pause|| [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81']ਇਹੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%9F%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%81']ਕੁਟੰਬੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%81']ਸਭੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%85']ਜੀਅ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87']ਕੇ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%A8']ਬੰਧਨ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88']ਭਾਈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BF']ਭਰਮਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE']ਭੁਲਾ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%88%E0%A8%82%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE']ਸੈਂਸਾਰਾ [/URL]॥ All of these relatives are like chains upon the soul, O Siblings of Destiny; the world is deluded by doubt. [COLOR=#8000ff](because I was praying for a family of my own with wife and kids ) [/COLOR] [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81']ਬਿਨੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0']ਗੁਰ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%A8']ਬੰਧਨ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9F%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF']ਟੂਟਹਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80']ਨਾਹੀ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF']ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%96']ਮੋਖ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE']ਦੁਆਰਾ [/URL]॥ Without the Guru, the chains cannot be broken; the Gurmukhs find the door of salvation. [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE']ਕਰਮ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF']ਕਰਹਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0']ਗੁਰ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%81']ਸਬਦੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8']ਨ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%9B%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF']ਪਛਾਣਹਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF']ਮਰਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF']ਜਨਮਹਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%8B']ਵਾਰੋ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE']ਵਾਰਾ [/URL]॥੨॥ One who performs rituals without realizing the Word of the Guru's Shabad, shall die and be reborn, again and again. ||2|| [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%89']ਹਉ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE']ਮੇਰਾ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81']ਜਗੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BF']ਪਲਚਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86']ਰਹਿਆ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88']ਭਾਈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%87']ਕੋਇ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8']ਨ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8']ਕਿਸ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80']ਹੀ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE']ਕੇਰਾ [/URL]॥ The world is entangled in egotism and possessiveness, O Siblings of Destiny, but no one belongs to anyone else. [COLOR=#8000ff](because I often felt I should have someone to look forward to lest I become alone in life)[/COLOR] [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF']ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%81']ਮਹਲੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF']ਪਾਇਨਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A3']ਗੁਣ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF']ਗਾਵਨਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%9C']ਨਿਜ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF']ਘਰਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%87']ਹੋਇ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE']ਬਸੇਰਾ [/URL]॥ The Gurmukhs attain the Mansion of the Lord's Presence, singing the Glories of the Lord; they dwell in the home of their own inner being. [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%90%E0%A8%A5%E0%A9%88']ਐਥੈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%82%E0%A8%9D%E0%A9%88']ਬੂਝੈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81']ਸੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81']ਆਪੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%9B%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%88']ਪਛਾਣੈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF']ਹਰਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%81']ਪ੍ਰਭੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88']ਹੈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81']ਤਿਸੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE']ਕੇਰਾ [/URL]॥੩॥ One who understands here, realizes himself; the Lord God belongs to him. ||3|| (because I felt I will be alone) [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%82']ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE']ਸਦਾ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%81']ਦਇਆਲੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88']ਹੈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88']ਭਾਈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%81']ਵਿਣੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BE']ਭਾਗਾ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86']ਕਿਆ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88%E0%A8%90']ਪਾਈਐ [/URL]॥ The True Guru is forever merciful, O Siblings of Destiny; without good destiny, what can anyone obtain? [COLOR=#8000ff](because I asked god to make me straight)[/COLOR] [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95']ਏਕ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF']ਨਦਰਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF']ਕਰਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%88']ਵੇਖੈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AD']ਸਭ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8A%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF']ਊਪਰਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE']ਜੇਹਾ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%89']ਭਾਉ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE']ਤੇਹਾ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AB%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%81']ਫਲੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88%E0%A8%90']ਪਾਈਐ [/URL]॥ He looks alike upon all with His Glance of Grace, but people receive the fruits of their rewards according to their love for the Lord. [COLOR=#8000ff](why you listen to some people's prayer and other people don't get relief ? )[/COLOR] [URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95']ਨਾਨਕ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81']ਨਾਮੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%88']ਵਸੈ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%A8']ਮਨ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF']ਅੰਤਰਿ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81']ਵਿਚਹੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%81']ਆਪੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88%E0%A8%90']ਗਵਾਈਐ [/URL]॥੪॥੬॥ O Nanak, when the Naam, the Name of the Lord, comes to dwell within the mind, then self-conceit is eradicated from within. ||4||6|| I realized guru ji had answered my doubts. but still it made me sad that guru had said "[URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A3%E0%A9%81']ਵਿਣੁ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BE']ਭਾਗਾ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86']ਕਿਆ [/URL][URL='http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%88%E0%A8%90']ਪਾਈਐ [/URL]॥ without good destiny, what can anyone obtain?" actually have heard this argument very commonly from sikh preachers. true, but seriously even if I agree with this advice of gursikh, what do I do with that advice ? take amrit and remain single for life? spend whole life worshiping god ? the fear of slippery slope is always there and you have to be on guards against your own self. Imagine me having something with a guy, and a constable catched us and roughens me up, because gay is still illegal in india. and next day I swear I will leave all this and surrender to guru. My mind imagines all sort of things. but I feel like my orientation is such that surrendering to god is my only option :( I often see wandering stray dogs and it makes me feel scared. like what they must have done to deserve this . true it is ! but the other part of my mind who is skeptic wants me to look dude, ripped body with latest hairstyle, hooking with likewise cute guys. Its all maya, but what do I do ? my mind is such it wants that too . so I be a nun for life ? I feel like returning to guru at some point of life is my only option . considering I don't envision a rocking life ahead. what options do I have ? marrying a woman would be miserable, can't be with a man. but right now I feel like I can't handle a long beard, long mustaches, etc . [/QUOTE]
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