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<blockquote data-quote="vsgrewal48895" data-source="post: 97239" data-attributes="member: 8024"><p>Dear Raj Khalsa Ji,</p><p> </p><p>RAM in AGGS is “Akal Purkh” and not Rama son of Dasrath;</p><p> </p><p>ਰਾਮ ਰਾਮ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਕਹੈ ਕਹਿਐ ਰਾਮੁ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥ ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਰਾਮੁ ਮਨਿ ਵਸੈ ਤਾ ਫਲੁ ਪਾਵੈ ਕੋਇ ॥</p><p> </p><p><em>Rām rām sabẖ ko kahai kahi¬ai rām na ho¬ė. Gur parsādī rām man vasai ṯā fal pāvai ko¬ė.</em></p><p> </p><p>Everyone chants the Akal Purkh's Name, Ram, Ram; but by such chanting, It is not obtained. By Guru's Grace, It comes to dwell in the mind, and then, the fruits are obtained. -----Guru Amar Das, Raag Gujri, AGGS, Page 491-1 & 2</p><p> </p><p>ਕਬੀਰ ਰਾਮ ਕਹਨ ਮਹਿ ਭੇਦੁ ਹੈ ਤਾ ਮਹਿ ਏਕੁ ਬਿਚਾਰੁ ॥ ਸੋਈ ਰਾਮੁ ਸਭੈ ਕਹਹਿ ਸੋਈ ਕਉਤਕਹਾਰ ॥ ਕਬੀਰ ਰਾਮੈ ਰਾਮ ਕਹੁ ਕਹਿਬੇ ਮਾਹਿ ਬਿਬੇਕ ॥ ਏਕੁ ਅਨੇਕਹਿ ਮਿਲਿ ਗਇਆ ਏਕ ਸਮਾਨਾ ਏਕ ॥</p><p> </p><p><em>Kabir rām kahan meh bẖėḏ hai ṯā meh ėk bicẖār. So¬ī rām sabẖai kaheh so¬ī ka¬uṯakhār. Kabīr rāmai rām kaho kahibė māhi bibėk. Ėk anėkeh mil ga¬i¬ā ėk samānā ėk.</em> </p><p> </p><p>Kabir, it does make a difference, how you chant the God's Name, 'Ram'. This is something to consider. Everyone uses the same word for the son of Dasrath and the Wondrous God. Kabir, use the word 'Ram', only to speak of the All-pervading God You must make that distinction. One 'Ram' is pervading everywhere, while the other is contained only in It. -----Kabir Slokes 190 & 191, AGGS, Page, 1374-14 & 15</p><p> </p><p>Swayeeas of Guru Gobind Singh, DG, Page, 713 & 714</p><p> </p><p>ਕਾਹੂੰ ਨੇ ਰਾਮ ਕਹਯੋ ਕ੍ਰਿਸ਼ਨਾ ਕਹੁ ਕਾਹੂੰ ਮਨੈ ਅਵਤਾਰਨ ਮਾਨਯੋ ॥ ਫੋਕਟ ਧਰਮ ਬਿਸਾਰ ਸਭੈ ਕਰਤਾਰ ਹੀ ਕਉ ਕਰਤਾ ਜੀਅ ਜਾਨਯੋ ॥੧੨॥</p><p> </p><p><em>Kahoon Nay Ram Kehou Krishna Koh Kahoon Manai Avtaran Maneo. Foakat Dharam Bisaar Sabhai Kartar Hi Kou Karta Jea Jaaneo.</em></p><p> </p><p>Someone calls Akal Purkh Ram or Krishna and someone believes in Its incarnations, but my mind has forsaken all useless actions and has accepted only the One Creator.</p><p> </p><p>ਜੌ ਕਹੌ ਰਾਮ ਅਜੋਨਿ ਅਜੈ ਅਤਿ ਕਾਹੇ ਕੌ ਕੌਸ਼ਲ ਕੁੱਖ ਜਯੋ ਜੂ ॥ ਕਾਲ ਹੂੰ ਕਾਲ ਕਹੈ ਜਿਹਿ ਕੌ ਕਿਹਿ ਕਾਰਣ ਕਾਲ ਤੇ ਦੀਨ ਭਯੋ ਜੂ ॥</p><p> </p><p><em>Jou Kahou Ram Ajoun Ajai Ut Kaahay Kou Koshal Kukh Jeou Joo. Kaal Hoon Kaal Kahea Jeh Kaou Keh KaarN Kaal Tay Din Bheou Joo.</em></p><p> </p><p>If we consider Ram, the Akal Purkh as Unborn, then how did he take birth from the womb of Kaushalya? He, who is said to be the KAL (destroyer) of KAL (death), then why did none become subjugated himself before KAL?</p><p> </p><p>ਸੱਤ ਸਰੂਪ ਬਿਬੈਰ ਕਹਾਇ ਸੁ ਕਯੋਂ ਪਥ ਕੌ ਰਥ ਹਾਂਕ ਧਯੋ ਜੂ ॥ ਤਾਹੀ ਕੋ ਮਾਨਿ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਕਰਿ ਕੈ ਜਿਹ ਕੋ ਕੋਊ ਭੇਦੁ ਨ ਲੇਨ ਲਯੋ ਜੂ ॥੧੩॥</p><p> </p><p><em>Sat Saroop Bibair Kahaey So Kaeon Path Kou Rath Haank Dheou Joo. Tahi Kou Maan Prabhoo Kar Kai Jeh Kou Kouoo Bhayd Na Layn Laeo Joo.</em></p><p> </p><p>If Krishna is called the Truth-incarnate, beyond enmity and opposition, then why did he become the charioteer of Arjuna? O mind! You only consider It the Akal Purkh God, who’s Mystery, could not be known to anyone.</p><p> </p><p>ਕਯੋਂ ਕਹੁ ਕ੍ਰਿਸ਼ਨ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਨਿਧ ਹੈ ਕਿਹ ਕਾਜ ਤੇ ਬੱਧਕ ਬਾਣ ਲਗਾਯੋ ॥ ਅਉਰ ਕੁਲੀਨ ਉਧਾਰਤ ਜੋ ਕਿਹ ਤੇ ਅਪਨੋ ਕੁਲ ਨਾਸੁ ਕਰਾਯੋ ॥</p><p> </p><p><em>Kaeon Koh Krishan Kirpanidh Hai Keh Kaaj Tay Badhak BaaN Lagaeo. Aour Kulin Oudharat Jou Keh Tay Apnay Kul Naas Karaeo.</em></p><p> </p><p>Krishna himself is considered the treasure of Grace, then why did the hunter shot his arrow at him? He has been described as redeeming the clans of others then he caused the destruction of his own clan.</p><p> </p><p>ਆਦਿ ਅਜੋਨਿ ਕਹਾਇ ਕਹੋ ਕਿਮ ਦੇਵਕਿ ਕੇ ਜਠਰੰਤਰ ਆਯੋ ॥ ਤਾਤ ਨ ਮਾਤ ਕਹੈ ਜਿਹ ਕੋ ਤਿਹ ਕਯੋਂ ਬਸੁਦੇਵਹਿ ਬਾਪੁ ਕਹਾਯੋ ॥੧੪॥</p><p> </p><p><em>Aad Ajoun Kahaay Kahou Kim Dayvak Kay Jathrantar Aeou. Taat Na Maat Kahai Jeh Kaou The Kajeon Basudeveh Baap Kahaeo.</em></p><p> </p><p>Akal Purkh is said to be unborn and beginning less, then how did he come into the womb of Devaki? Akal Purkh is considered to be without any father or mother, then why did Krishna cause Vasudev to be called his father.</p><p> </p><p>ਕਾਹੇ ਕੋ ਏਸ਼ ਮਹੇਸ਼ਹਿ ਭਾਖਤ ਕਾਹਿ ਦਿਜੇਸ਼ ਕੋ ਏਸ ਬਖਾਨਯੋ ॥ ਹੈ ਨ ਰਘ੍ਵੇਸ਼ ਜਦ੍ਵੇਸ਼ ਰਮਾਪਤਿ ਤੈ ਜਿਨ ਕੌ ਬਿਸ੍ਵਨਾਥ ਪਛਾਨਯੋ ॥</p><p> </p><p><em>Kahay Kou Aysh Mahaysh Bhakhat Kaeh Dejaysh Kou Aysh Bakhaneo. Hai N Raghvaysh Jadavaysh Ramapat Tai Jin Kaou Bisvnaath Pachaneo.</em></p><p> </p><p>Why do you consider Shiva or Brahma as the Akal Purkh? There is none amongst Ram, Krishna and Vishnu, who may be considered as the Creator of the Universe.</p><p> </p><p>ਏਕ ਕੋ ਛਾਡਿ ਅਨੇਕ ਭਜੈ ਸੁਕਦੇਵ ਪਰਾਸਰ ਬਯਾਸ ਝੁਠਾਨਯੋ ॥ ਫੋਕਟ ਧਰਮ ਸਜੇ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਹਮ ਏਕ ਹੀ ਕੌ ਬਿਧ ਨੈਕ ਪ੍ਰਮਾਨਯੋ ॥੧੫॥</p><p> </p><p><em>Ayk Kaou Chaad Anek Bhajai Sukdev Prasar Bejas Prasar Byas Jhithneo. Foakat Dharam Sajay Sabh Hi Ham Ayk Hi Kou Bidfh Naik Parmaneou.</em></p><p> </p><p>Relinquishing the One Creator, you remember many gods and goddesses; in this way you prove Shukdev, Prashar etc. as liars; all the so-called religions are hollow; I only accept the One Akal Purkh as the Providence.</p><p> </p><p>ਕੋਊ ਦਿਜੇਸ਼ ਕੋ ਮਾਨਤ ਹੈ ਅਰੁ ਕੋਊ ਮਹੇਸ਼ ਕੋ ਏਸ਼ ਬਤੈ ਹੈ ॥ ਕੋਊ ਕਹੈ ਬਿਸ਼ਨੋ ਬਿਸ਼ਨਾਇਕ ਜਾਹਿ ਭਜੇ ਅਘ ਓਘ ਕਟੈ ਹੈ ॥</p><p> </p><p><em>Kouoo Dijaysh Kaou Manat Hai Ur Kouoo Mahesh Kou Aysh Batai Hai. Kouoo Kahai Bishanou Bishnaek Jaeh Bajay Ugh Oagh Katai Hai.</em></p><p> </p><p>Someone tells Brahma as the Creator-God and someone tells the same thing about Shiva; someone considers Vishnu as the hero of the universe and says that only on remembering him, all the sins will be destroyed;</p><p> </p><p>ਬਾਰ ਹਜ਼ਾਰ ਬਿਚਾਰ ਅਰੇ ਜੜ ਅੰਤ ਸਮੈ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਤਜਿ ਜੈ ਹੈ ॥ ਤਾਹੀ ਕੋ ਧਯਾਨ ਪ੍ਰਮਾਨਿ ਹੀਏ ਜੋਊ ਥੇ ਅਬ ਹੈ ਅਰੁ ਆਗੈ ਊ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਹੈ ॥੧੬॥</p><p> </p><p><em>Baar Hazaar Bichaar Aray Jarh Unt Sanai Sabh Hi Taj Jai Hai. Taahi Kou Dhyan Parmaan Hieay Jouoo Thay Ub Hai Ur Aagai Oo Havai Hai.</em></p><p> </p><p>O fool! Think about it a thousand times, all of them will leave you at the time of death; therefore, you should only meditate on Akal Purkh, who is there in the present and who will also be there in future.</p><p> </p><p>Guru contains all those gods and goddesses. </p><p> </p><p>ਗੁਰੁ ਈਸਰੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਗੋਰਖੁ ਬਰਮਾ ਗੁਰੁ ਪਾਰਬਤੀ ਮਾਈ ॥ </p><p> </p><p><em>Gur īsar gur gorakẖ barmā gur pārbaṯī mā▫ī.</em> </p><p> </p><p>The Guru is Shiva, the Guru is Vishnu and Brahma; the Guru is Paarvati and Lakhshmi.</p><p>Here God is Guru.</p><p> </p><p>It is not chanting but good deeds that brings the blessings of Grace of God, which can change any thing.</p><p> </p><p>Cordially,</p><p>Virinder S. Grewal</p><p>Williamston, MI</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vsgrewal48895, post: 97239, member: 8024"] Dear Raj Khalsa Ji, RAM in AGGS is “Akal Purkh” and not Rama son of Dasrath; ਰਾਮ ਰਾਮ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਕਹੈ ਕਹਿਐ ਰਾਮੁ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥ ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਰਾਮੁ ਮਨਿ ਵਸੈ ਤਾ ਫਲੁ ਪਾਵੈ ਕੋਇ ॥ [I]Rām rām sabẖ ko kahai kahi¬ai rām na ho¬ė. Gur parsādī rām man vasai ṯā fal pāvai ko¬ė.[/I] Everyone chants the Akal Purkh's Name, Ram, Ram; but by such chanting, It is not obtained. By Guru's Grace, It comes to dwell in the mind, and then, the fruits are obtained. -----Guru Amar Das, Raag Gujri, AGGS, Page 491-1 & 2 ਕਬੀਰ ਰਾਮ ਕਹਨ ਮਹਿ ਭੇਦੁ ਹੈ ਤਾ ਮਹਿ ਏਕੁ ਬਿਚਾਰੁ ॥ ਸੋਈ ਰਾਮੁ ਸਭੈ ਕਹਹਿ ਸੋਈ ਕਉਤਕਹਾਰ ॥ ਕਬੀਰ ਰਾਮੈ ਰਾਮ ਕਹੁ ਕਹਿਬੇ ਮਾਹਿ ਬਿਬੇਕ ॥ ਏਕੁ ਅਨੇਕਹਿ ਮਿਲਿ ਗਇਆ ਏਕ ਸਮਾਨਾ ਏਕ ॥ [I]Kabir rām kahan meh bẖėḏ hai ṯā meh ėk bicẖār. So¬ī rām sabẖai kaheh so¬ī ka¬uṯakhār. Kabīr rāmai rām kaho kahibė māhi bibėk. Ėk anėkeh mil ga¬i¬ā ėk samānā ėk.[/I] Kabir, it does make a difference, how you chant the God's Name, 'Ram'. This is something to consider. Everyone uses the same word for the son of Dasrath and the Wondrous God. Kabir, use the word 'Ram', only to speak of the All-pervading God You must make that distinction. One 'Ram' is pervading everywhere, while the other is contained only in It. -----Kabir Slokes 190 & 191, AGGS, Page, 1374-14 & 15 Swayeeas of Guru Gobind Singh, DG, Page, 713 & 714 ਕਾਹੂੰ ਨੇ ਰਾਮ ਕਹਯੋ ਕ੍ਰਿਸ਼ਨਾ ਕਹੁ ਕਾਹੂੰ ਮਨੈ ਅਵਤਾਰਨ ਮਾਨਯੋ ॥ ਫੋਕਟ ਧਰਮ ਬਿਸਾਰ ਸਭੈ ਕਰਤਾਰ ਹੀ ਕਉ ਕਰਤਾ ਜੀਅ ਜਾਨਯੋ ॥੧੨॥ [I]Kahoon Nay Ram Kehou Krishna Koh Kahoon Manai Avtaran Maneo. Foakat Dharam Bisaar Sabhai Kartar Hi Kou Karta Jea Jaaneo.[/I] Someone calls Akal Purkh Ram or Krishna and someone believes in Its incarnations, but my mind has forsaken all useless actions and has accepted only the One Creator. ਜੌ ਕਹੌ ਰਾਮ ਅਜੋਨਿ ਅਜੈ ਅਤਿ ਕਾਹੇ ਕੌ ਕੌਸ਼ਲ ਕੁੱਖ ਜਯੋ ਜੂ ॥ ਕਾਲ ਹੂੰ ਕਾਲ ਕਹੈ ਜਿਹਿ ਕੌ ਕਿਹਿ ਕਾਰਣ ਕਾਲ ਤੇ ਦੀਨ ਭਯੋ ਜੂ ॥ [I]Jou Kahou Ram Ajoun Ajai Ut Kaahay Kou Koshal Kukh Jeou Joo. Kaal Hoon Kaal Kahea Jeh Kaou Keh KaarN Kaal Tay Din Bheou Joo.[/I] If we consider Ram, the Akal Purkh as Unborn, then how did he take birth from the womb of Kaushalya? He, who is said to be the KAL (destroyer) of KAL (death), then why did none become subjugated himself before KAL? ਸੱਤ ਸਰੂਪ ਬਿਬੈਰ ਕਹਾਇ ਸੁ ਕਯੋਂ ਪਥ ਕੌ ਰਥ ਹਾਂਕ ਧਯੋ ਜੂ ॥ ਤਾਹੀ ਕੋ ਮਾਨਿ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਕਰਿ ਕੈ ਜਿਹ ਕੋ ਕੋਊ ਭੇਦੁ ਨ ਲੇਨ ਲਯੋ ਜੂ ॥੧੩॥ [I]Sat Saroop Bibair Kahaey So Kaeon Path Kou Rath Haank Dheou Joo. Tahi Kou Maan Prabhoo Kar Kai Jeh Kou Kouoo Bhayd Na Layn Laeo Joo.[/I] If Krishna is called the Truth-incarnate, beyond enmity and opposition, then why did he become the charioteer of Arjuna? O mind! You only consider It the Akal Purkh God, who’s Mystery, could not be known to anyone. ਕਯੋਂ ਕਹੁ ਕ੍ਰਿਸ਼ਨ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਨਿਧ ਹੈ ਕਿਹ ਕਾਜ ਤੇ ਬੱਧਕ ਬਾਣ ਲਗਾਯੋ ॥ ਅਉਰ ਕੁਲੀਨ ਉਧਾਰਤ ਜੋ ਕਿਹ ਤੇ ਅਪਨੋ ਕੁਲ ਨਾਸੁ ਕਰਾਯੋ ॥ [I]Kaeon Koh Krishan Kirpanidh Hai Keh Kaaj Tay Badhak BaaN Lagaeo. Aour Kulin Oudharat Jou Keh Tay Apnay Kul Naas Karaeo.[/I] Krishna himself is considered the treasure of Grace, then why did the hunter shot his arrow at him? He has been described as redeeming the clans of others then he caused the destruction of his own clan. ਆਦਿ ਅਜੋਨਿ ਕਹਾਇ ਕਹੋ ਕਿਮ ਦੇਵਕਿ ਕੇ ਜਠਰੰਤਰ ਆਯੋ ॥ ਤਾਤ ਨ ਮਾਤ ਕਹੈ ਜਿਹ ਕੋ ਤਿਹ ਕਯੋਂ ਬਸੁਦੇਵਹਿ ਬਾਪੁ ਕਹਾਯੋ ॥੧੪॥ [I]Aad Ajoun Kahaay Kahou Kim Dayvak Kay Jathrantar Aeou. Taat Na Maat Kahai Jeh Kaou The Kajeon Basudeveh Baap Kahaeo.[/I] Akal Purkh is said to be unborn and beginning less, then how did he come into the womb of Devaki? Akal Purkh is considered to be without any father or mother, then why did Krishna cause Vasudev to be called his father. ਕਾਹੇ ਕੋ ਏਸ਼ ਮਹੇਸ਼ਹਿ ਭਾਖਤ ਕਾਹਿ ਦਿਜੇਸ਼ ਕੋ ਏਸ ਬਖਾਨਯੋ ॥ ਹੈ ਨ ਰਘ੍ਵੇਸ਼ ਜਦ੍ਵੇਸ਼ ਰਮਾਪਤਿ ਤੈ ਜਿਨ ਕੌ ਬਿਸ੍ਵਨਾਥ ਪਛਾਨਯੋ ॥ [I]Kahay Kou Aysh Mahaysh Bhakhat Kaeh Dejaysh Kou Aysh Bakhaneo. Hai N Raghvaysh Jadavaysh Ramapat Tai Jin Kaou Bisvnaath Pachaneo.[/I] Why do you consider Shiva or Brahma as the Akal Purkh? There is none amongst Ram, Krishna and Vishnu, who may be considered as the Creator of the Universe. ਏਕ ਕੋ ਛਾਡਿ ਅਨੇਕ ਭਜੈ ਸੁਕਦੇਵ ਪਰਾਸਰ ਬਯਾਸ ਝੁਠਾਨਯੋ ॥ ਫੋਕਟ ਧਰਮ ਸਜੇ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਹਮ ਏਕ ਹੀ ਕੌ ਬਿਧ ਨੈਕ ਪ੍ਰਮਾਨਯੋ ॥੧੫॥ [I]Ayk Kaou Chaad Anek Bhajai Sukdev Prasar Bejas Prasar Byas Jhithneo. Foakat Dharam Sajay Sabh Hi Ham Ayk Hi Kou Bidfh Naik Parmaneou.[/I] Relinquishing the One Creator, you remember many gods and goddesses; in this way you prove Shukdev, Prashar etc. as liars; all the so-called religions are hollow; I only accept the One Akal Purkh as the Providence. ਕੋਊ ਦਿਜੇਸ਼ ਕੋ ਮਾਨਤ ਹੈ ਅਰੁ ਕੋਊ ਮਹੇਸ਼ ਕੋ ਏਸ਼ ਬਤੈ ਹੈ ॥ ਕੋਊ ਕਹੈ ਬਿਸ਼ਨੋ ਬਿਸ਼ਨਾਇਕ ਜਾਹਿ ਭਜੇ ਅਘ ਓਘ ਕਟੈ ਹੈ ॥ [I]Kouoo Dijaysh Kaou Manat Hai Ur Kouoo Mahesh Kou Aysh Batai Hai. Kouoo Kahai Bishanou Bishnaek Jaeh Bajay Ugh Oagh Katai Hai.[/I] Someone tells Brahma as the Creator-God and someone tells the same thing about Shiva; someone considers Vishnu as the hero of the universe and says that only on remembering him, all the sins will be destroyed; ਬਾਰ ਹਜ਼ਾਰ ਬਿਚਾਰ ਅਰੇ ਜੜ ਅੰਤ ਸਮੈ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਤਜਿ ਜੈ ਹੈ ॥ ਤਾਹੀ ਕੋ ਧਯਾਨ ਪ੍ਰਮਾਨਿ ਹੀਏ ਜੋਊ ਥੇ ਅਬ ਹੈ ਅਰੁ ਆਗੈ ਊ ਹ੍ਵੈ ਹੈ ॥੧੬॥ [I]Baar Hazaar Bichaar Aray Jarh Unt Sanai Sabh Hi Taj Jai Hai. Taahi Kou Dhyan Parmaan Hieay Jouoo Thay Ub Hai Ur Aagai Oo Havai Hai.[/I] O fool! Think about it a thousand times, all of them will leave you at the time of death; therefore, you should only meditate on Akal Purkh, who is there in the present and who will also be there in future. Guru contains all those gods and goddesses. ਗੁਰੁ ਈਸਰੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਗੋਰਖੁ ਬਰਮਾ ਗੁਰੁ ਪਾਰਬਤੀ ਮਾਈ ॥ [I]Gur īsar gur gorakẖ barmā gur pārbaṯī mā▫ī.[/I] The Guru is Shiva, the Guru is Vishnu and Brahma; the Guru is Paarvati and Lakhshmi. Here God is Guru. It is not chanting but good deeds that brings the blessings of Grace of God, which can change any thing. Cordially, Virinder S. Grewal Williamston, MI [/QUOTE]
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