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Miracles In Sri Guru Granth Sahib
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<blockquote data-quote="Harjas Kaur Khalsa" data-source="post: 80715" data-attributes="member: 2125"><p><strong>Re: Miracles in Guru Granth Sahib Ji</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>As you may appreciate, personal opionion, while valid to the person (and everyone has personal opinions) doesn't carry much weight when it comes to analyzing what Sikhism does or does not teach regarding belief. So let's have a look at some tuuks and pauris of Gurbani and see where these ideas may have a basis in Sikh teaching:</p><p></p><p><strong>1. Ghosts:</strong></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਜਿਤੁ ਦਿਨਿ ਦੇਹ ਬਿਨਸਸੀ ਤਿਤੁ ਵੇਲੈ ਕਹਸਨਿ <strong>ਪ੍ਰੇਤ</strong>ੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">jith dhin dhaeh binasasee thith vaelai kehasan <strong>praeth </strong>||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">On that day when the body perishes-at that time, she becomes a <strong>ghost.</strong></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਪਕੜਿ ਚਲਾਇਨਿ ਦੂਤ ਜਮ ਕਿਸੈ ਨ ਦੇਨੀ ਭੇਤੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">pakarr chalaaein dhooth jam kisai n dhaenee bhaeth ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">The Messenger of Death seizes and holds her, and does not tell anyone his secret.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਛਡਿ ਖੜੋਤੇ ਖਿਨੈ ਮਾਹਿ ਜਿਨ ਸਿਉ ਲਗਾ ਹੇਤੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">shhadd kharrothae khinai maahi jin sio lagaa haeth ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">And her loved ones-in an instant, they move on, leaving her all alone.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਹਥ ਮਰੋੜੈ ਤਨੁ ਕਪੇ ਸਿਆਹਹੁ ਹੋਆ ਸੇਤੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">hathh marorrai than kapae siaahahu hoaa saeth ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">She wrings her hands, her body writhes in pain, and she turns from black to white.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਜੇਹਾ ਬੀਜੈ ਸੋ ਲੁਣੈ ਕਰਮਾ ਸੰਦੜਾ ਖੇਤੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">jaehaa beejai so lunai karamaa sandharraa khaeth ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">As she has planted, so does she harvest; such is the field of karma.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">~SGGS Ji p. 134</span></p><p></p><p></p><p>When it comes to a concept like "ghosts" it becomes unclear what is not believed in. Is it untrue that every physical being possesses an atma, or spiritual sheaths which encase an atma so that at death of the body there is a perceivable afterlife? Is it untrue that such disembodied "spirits" of either people or inhuman beings would manifest on the material plane to be perceived by living people? So I'm not sure what is not believed in Sikhism, is it atma, spiritual sheaths surrounding atma, afterlife, haunting spirit?</p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਸਭ ਕਿਛੁ ਜੀਵਤ ਕੋ ਬਿਵਹਾਰ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">sabh kishh jeevath ko bivehaar ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">All things are mere diversions of life: </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਮਾਤ ਪਿਤਾ ਭਾਈ ਸੁਤ ਬੰਧਪ ਅਰੁ ਫੁਨਿ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਕੀ ਨਾਰਿ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">maath pithaa bhaaee suth bandhhap ar fun grih kee naar ||1|| rehaao ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">mother, father, siblings, children, relatives and the wife of your home. ||1||Pause||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਤਨ ਤੇ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਹੋਤ ਜਬ ਨਿਆਰੇ ਟੇਰਤ <strong>ਪ੍ਰੇਤਿ </strong>ਪੁਕਾਰਿ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">than thae praan hoth jab niaarae ttaerath <strong>praeth</strong> pukaar ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">When the soul is separated from the body, then they will cry out, calling you a <strong>ghost</strong>.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਆਧ ਘਰੀ ਕੋਊ ਨਹਿ ਰਾਖੈ ਘਰ ਤੇ ਦੇਤ ਨਿਕਾਰਿ ॥੧॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">aadhh gharee kooo nehi raakhai ghar thae dhaeth nikaar ||1||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">No one will let you stay, for even half an hour; they drive you out of the house. ||1||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਮ੍ਰਿਗ ਤ੍ਰਿਸਨਾ ਜਿਉ ਜਗ ਰਚਨਾ ਯਹ ਦੇਖਹੁ ਰਿਦੈ ਬਿਚਾਰਿ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">mrig thrisanaa jio jag rachanaa yeh dhaekhahu ridhai bichaar ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">The created world is like an illusion, a mirage - see this, and reflect upon it in your mind.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">~SGGS Ji p. 536</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਸੁਖ ਮੈ ਆਨਿ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਮਿਲਿ ਬੈਠਤ ਰਹਤ ਚਹੂ ਦਿਸਿ ਘੇਰੈ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">sukh mai aan bahuth mil baithath rehath chehoo dhis ghaerai ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">In good times, many come and sit together, surrounding you on all four sides.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਬਿਪਤਿ ਪਰੀ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਸੰਗੁ ਛਾਡਿਤ ਕੋਊ ਨ ਆਵਤ ਨੇਰੈ ॥੧॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">bipath paree sabh hee sang shhaaddith kooo n aavath naerai ||1||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">But when hard times come, they all leave, and no one comes near you. ||1|| </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਘਰ ਕੀ ਨਾਰਿ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਹਿਤੁ ਜਾ ਸਿਉ ਸਦਾ ਰਹਤ ਸੰਗ ਲਾਗੀ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ghar kee naar bahuth hith jaa sio sadhaa rehath sang laagee ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">Your wife, whom you love so much, and who has remained ever attached to you, </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਜਬ ਹੀ ਹੰਸ ਤਜੀ ਇਹ ਕਾਂਇਆ ਪ੍ਰੇਤ ਪ੍ਰੇਤ ਕਰਿ ਭਾਗੀ ॥੨॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">jab hee hans thajee eih kaaneiaa praeth praeth kar bhaagee ||2||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">runs away crying, ""Ghost! Ghost!"", as soon as the swan-soul leaves this body. ||2||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਇਹ ਬਿਧਿ ਕੋ ਬਿਉਹਾਰੁ ਬਨਿਓ ਹੈ ਜਾ ਸਿਉ ਨੇਹੁ ਲਗਾਇਓ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">eih bidhh ko biouhaar baniou hai jaa sio naehu lagaaeiou ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">This is the way they act - those whom we love so much. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਅੰਤ ਬਾਰ ਨਾਨਕ ਬਿਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਜੀ ਕੋਊ ਕਾਮਿ ਨ ਆਇਓ ॥੩॥੧੨॥੧੩੯॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">anth baar naanak bin har jee kooo kaam n aaeiou ||3||12||139||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">At the very last moment, O Nanak, no one is any use at all, except the Dear Lord. ||3||12||139||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">~SGGS Ji p. 634</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>2. Jamdoot:</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਜਿਹਵਾ ਜਲਉ ਜਲਾਵਣੀ ਨਾਮੁ ਨ ਜਪੈ ਰਸਾਇ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">jihavaa jalo jalaavanee naam n japai rasaae ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">Let that tongue be burnt in flames, which does not chant the Naam with love. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਘਟੁ ਬਿਨਸੈ ਦੁਖੁ ਅਗਲੋ <strong>ਜਮ</strong>ੁ ਪਕੜੈ ਪਛੁਤਾਇ ॥੫॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ghatt binasai dhukh agalo jam pakarrai pashhuthaae ||5||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">When the pitcher of the body bursts, there is terrible pain; those who are caught by the <strong>Minister of Death</strong> regret and repent. ||5||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਮੇਰੀ ਮੇਰੀ ਕਰਿ ਗਏ ਤਨੁ ਧਨੁ ਕਲਤੁ ਨ ਸਾਥਿ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">maeree maeree kar geae than dhhan kalath n saathh ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">Crying out, ""Mine! Mine!"", they have departed, but their bodies, their wealth, and their wives did not go with them. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਬਿਨੁ ਨਾਵੈ ਧਨੁ ਬਾਦਿ ਹੈ ਭੂਲੋ ਮਾਰਗਿ ਆਥਿ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">bin naavai dhhan baadh hai bhoolo maarag aathh ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">Without the Name, wealth is useless; deceived by wealth, they have lost their way.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">~SGGS Ji p. 59</span></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkSlateBlue">ਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਗੁਪਤ ਕਾ ਕਾਗਦੁ ਫਾਰਿਆ <strong>ਜਮਦੂਤਾ</strong> ਕਛੂ ਨ ਚਲੀ ॥</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkSlateBlue">chithr gupath kaa kaagadh faariaa <strong>jamadhoothaa</strong> kashhoo n chalee ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkSlateBlue">The accounts of Chitr and Gupt, the recording scribes of the conscious and the subconscious are torn up, and the <strong>Messenger of Death</strong> cannot do anything.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: DarkSlateBlue">~SGGS Ji p. 79</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>3. Heaven & Hell:</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਤੇਰਾ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਪਾਇਆ ਸੁਰਗਿ ਮਛਿ ਪਇਆਲਿ ਜੀਉ ॥੧॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">thaeraa anth n paaeiaa <strong>surag</strong> mashh paeiaal jeeo ||1||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">Your limits are not known to any of the beings in the <strong>heavens</strong>, in this world, or in the nether regions of the underworld. ||1||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">~SGGS Ji p. 71</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਚਿਤਿ ਨ ਆਇਓ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਤਾ ਖੜਿ <strong>ਰਸਾਤਲਿ </strong>ਦੀਤ ॥੭॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">chith n aaeiou paarabreham thaa kharr<strong> rasaathal</strong> dheeth ||7||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">But still, if you do not come to remember the Supreme Lord God, then you shall be taken and consigned to the most <strong>hideous hell</strong>! ||7||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਕਾਇਆ ਰੋਗੁ ਨ ਛਿਦ੍ਰੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਨਾ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਾੜਾ ਸੋਗੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">kaaeiaa rog n shhidhra kishh naa kishh kaarraa sog ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">You may have a body free of disease and deformity, and have no worries or grief at all;</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਮਿਰਤੁ ਨ ਆਵੀ ਚਿਤਿ ਤਿਸੁ ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ ਭੋਗੈ ਭੋਗੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">mirath n aavee chith this ahinis bhogai bhog ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">you may be unmindful of death, and night and day revel in pleasures;</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਸਭ ਕਿਛੁ ਕੀਤੋਨੁ ਆਪਣਾ ਜੀਇ ਨ ਸੰਕ ਧਰਿਆ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">sabh kishh keethon aapanaa jeee n sank dhhariaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">you may take everything as your own, and have no fear in your mind at all;</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਚਿਤਿ ਨ ਆਇਓ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ <strong>ਜਮਕੰਕਰ</strong> ਵਸਿ ਪਰਿਆ ॥੮॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">chith n aaeiou paarabreham <strong>jamakankar</strong> vas pariaa ||8||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">but still, if you do not come to remember the Supreme Lord God, you shall fall under the power of the <strong>Messenger of Death</strong>. ||8||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">~SGGS Ji p. 71</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਬੇਦ ਪਾਪ ਪੁੰਨ ਵੀਚਾਰ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">saasathr baedh paap punn veechaar ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">The Shaastras and the Vedas speak of sin and virtue; </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"><strong>ਨਰਕਿ ਸੁਰਗਿ </strong>ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਅਉਤਾਰ ॥੨॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"><strong>narak surag</strong> fir fir aouthaar ||2||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">they say that mortals are reincarnated into <strong>heaven and hell</strong>, over and over again. ||2||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਗਿਰਸਤ ਮਹਿ ਚਿੰਤ ਉਦਾਸ ਅਹੰਕਾਰ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">girasath mehi chinth oudhaas ahankaar ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">In the householder's life, there is anxiety, and in the life of the renunciate, there is egotism.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">~SGGS Ji p. 385</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>4. Incarnation ( Avtaar Vaad , God taking birth in human form): </strong></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਹੁਕਮੇ ਸਿਵ ਸਕਤੀ ਘਰਿ ਵਾਸਾ ਹੁਕਮੇ ਖੇਲ ਖੇਲਾਇਦਾ ॥੧੧॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">hukamae siv sakathee ghar vaasaa hukamae khael khaelaaeidhaa ||11||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">By His Hukam, one dwells in the house of matter and energy - Shiva and Shakti. By His Hukam, He plays His plays. ||11|| </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਹੁਕਮੇ ਆਡਾਣੇ ਆਗਾਸੀ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">hukamae aaddaanae aagaasee ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">By the Hukam of His command, the sky is spread above. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਹੁਕਮੇ ਜਲ ਥਲ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਵਾਸੀ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">hukamae jal thhal thribhavan vaasee ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">By His Hukam, His creatures dwell in the water, on the land and throughout the three worlds. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਹੁਕਮੇ ਸਾਸ ਗਿਰਾਸ ਸਦਾ ਫੁਨਿ ਹੁਕਮੇ ਦੇਖਿ ਦਿਖਾਇਦਾ ॥੧੨॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">hukamae saas giraas sadhaa fun hukamae dhaekh dhikhaaeidhaa ||12||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">By His Hukam, we draw our breath and receive our food; by His Hukam, He watches over us, and inspires us to see. ||12|| </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਹੁਕਮਿ ਉਪਾਏ <strong>ਦਸ ਅਉਤਾਰਾ</strong> ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">hukam oupaaeae <strong>dhas aouthaaraa</strong> ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">By His Hukam, He created His <strong>ten incarnations</strong>, </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਦੇਵ ਦਾਨਵ ਅਗਣਤ ਅਪਾਰਾ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">dhaev dhaanav aganath apaaraa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">and the uncounted and infinite gods and devils. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਮਾਨੈ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਸੁ ਦਰਗਹ ਪੈਝੈ ਸਾਚਿ ਮਿਲਾਇ ਸਮਾਇਦਾ ॥੧੩॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">maanai hukam s dharageh paijhai saach milaae samaaeidhaa ||13||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">Whoever obeys the Hukam of His Command, is robed with honor in the Court of the Lord; united with the Truth, He merges in the Lord. ||13|| </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਹੁਕਮੇ ਜੁਗ ਛਤੀਹ ਗੁਦਾਰੇ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">hukamae jug shhatheeh gudhaarae ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">By the Hukam of His Command, the thirty-six ages passed. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਹੁਕਮੇ ਸਿਧ ਸਾਧਿਕ ਵੀਚਾਰੇ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">hukamae sidhh saadhhik veechaarae ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">By His Hukam, the Siddhas and seekers contemplate Him.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">~SGGS Ji p. 1037</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਸੁੰਨਹੁ ਉਪਜੇ <strong>ਦਸ ਅਵਤਾਰਾ</strong> ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">sunnahu oupajae <strong>dhas avathaaraa</strong> ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">From the Primal Void, the <strong>ten incarnations</strong> welled up. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਉਪਾਇ ਕੀਆ ਪਾਸਾਰਾ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">srisatt oupaae keeaa paasaaraa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">Creating the Universe, He made the expanse. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਦੇਵ ਦਾਨਵ ਗਣ ਗੰਧਰਬ ਸਾਜੇ ਸਭਿ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਕਰਮ ਕਮਾਇਦਾ ॥੧੨॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">dhaev dhaanav gan gandhharab saajae sabh likhiaa karam kamaaeidhaa ||12||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">He fashioned the demi-gods and demons, the heavenly heralds and celestial musicians; everyone acts according to their past karma. ||12||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">~SGGS Ji p. 1038</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬਿਸਨੁ ਮਹੇਸੁ ਦੇਵ ਉਪਾਇਆ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">brehamaa bisan mehaes dhaev oupaaeiaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva and the deities were created. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਬ੍ਰਹਮੇ ਦਿਤੇ ਬੇਦ ਪੂਜਾ ਲਾਇਆ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">brehamae dhithae baedh poojaa laaeiaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">Brahma was given the Vedas, and enjoined to worship God. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"><strong>ਦਸ ਅਵਤਾਰੀ</strong> ਰਾਮੁ ਰਾਜਾ ਆਇਆ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"><strong>dhas avathaaree</strong> raam raajaa aaeiaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"><strong>The ten incarnations</strong>, and Rama the king, came into being. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਦੈਤਾ ਮਾਰੇ ਧਾਇ ਹੁਕਮਿ ਸਬਾਇਆ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">dhaithaa maarae dhhaae hukam sabaaeiaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">According to His Will, they quickly killed all the demons.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਈਸ ਮਹੇਸੁਰੁ ਸੇਵ ਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹੀ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਪਾਇਆ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ees mehaesur saev thinhee anth n paaeiaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">Shiva serves Him, but cannot find His limits. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਸਚੀ ਕੀਮਤਿ ਪਾਇ ਤਖਤੁ ਰਚਾਇਆ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">sachee keemath paae thakhath rachaaeiaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">He established His throne on the principles of Truth. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਦੁਨੀਆ ਧੰਧੈ ਲਾਇ ਆਪੁ ਛਪਾਇਆ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">dhuneeaa dhhandhhai laae aap shhapaaeiaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">He enjoined all the world to its tasks, while He keeps Himself hidden from view.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">~SGGS Ji p. 1279 </span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਚਾਰੇ ਕੁੰਡਾਂ ਸੁਝੀਓਸੁ ਮਨ ਮਹਿ ਸਬਦੁ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">chaarae kunddaan sujheeous man mehi sabadh paravaan ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">You understand the four corners of the universe; in your mind, the Word of the Shabad is approved and supreme. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਆਵਾ ਗਉਣੁ ਨਿਵਾਰਿਓ ਕਰਿ ਨਦਰਿ ਨੀਸਾਣੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">aavaa goun nivaariou kar nadhar neesaan ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">You eliminate the comings and goings of reincarnation, and bestow the insignia of Your Glance of Grace. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਅਉਤਰਿਆ <strong>ਅਉਤਾਰੁ</strong> ਲੈ ਸੋ <strong>ਪੁਰਖ</strong>ੁ ਸੁਜਾਣੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">aouthariaa <strong>aouthaar</strong> lai so <strong>purakh</strong> sujaan ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">You are the <strong>Avataar, the Incarnation</strong> of the <strong>all-knowing Primal Lord</strong>. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਝਖੜਿ ਵਾਉ ਨ ਡੋਲਈ ਪਰਬਤੁ ਮੇਰਾਣੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">jhakharr vaao n ddolee parabath maeraan ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">You are not pushed or shaken by the storm and the wind; you are like the Sumayr Mountain. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਜਾਣੈ ਬਿਰਥਾ ਜੀਅ ਕੀ ਜਾਣੀ ਹੂ ਜਾਣੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">jaanai birathhaa jeea kee jaanee hoo jaan ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">You know the inner state of the soul; You are the Knower of knowers. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਕਿਆ ਸਾਲਾਹੀ<strong> ਸਚੇ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹ</strong> ਜਾਂ ਤੂ ਸੁਘੜੁ ਸੁਜਾਣੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">kiaa saalaahee <strong>sachae paathisaah</strong> jaan thoo sugharr sujaan ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">How can I praise You, O <strong>True Supreme King</strong>, when You are so wise and all-knowing? </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਦਾਨੁ ਜਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਭਾਵਸੀ ਸੋ ਸਤੇ ਦਾਣੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">dhaan j sathigur bhaavasee so sathae dhaan ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">Those blessings granted by the Pleasure of the True Guru - please bless Satta with those gifts. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਨਾਨਕ ਹੰਦਾ ਛਤ੍ਰੁ ਸਿਰਿ ਉਮਤਿ ਹੈਰਾਣੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">naanak handhaa shhathra sir oumath hairaan ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">Seeing Nanak's canopy waving over Your head, everyone was astonished. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਸੋ ਟਿਕਾ ਸੋ ਬੈਹਣਾ ਸੋਈ ਦੀਬਾਣੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">so ttikaa so baihanaa soee dheebaan ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">The same mark on the forehead, the same throne, and the same Royal Court. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਪਿਯੂ ਦਾਦੇ ਜੇਵਿਹਾ ਪੋਤ੍ਰਾ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ॥੬॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">piyoo dhaadhae jaevihaa pothraa paravaan ||6||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">Just like the father and grandfather, the son is approved. ||6|| </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਧੰਨੁ ਧੰਨੁ ਰਾਮਦਾਸ ਗੁਰੁ ਜਿਨਿ ਸਿਰਿਆ ਤਿਨੈ ਸਵਾਰਿਆ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">dhhann dhhann raamadhaas gur jin siriaa thinai savaariaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">Blessed, blessed is Guru Raam Daas; He who created You, has also exalted You. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਪੂਰੀ ਹੋਈ ਕਰਾਮਾਤਿ ਆਪਿ ਸਿਰਜਣਹਾਰੈ ਧਾਰਿਆ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">pooree hoee karaamaath aap sirajanehaarai dhhaariaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">Perfect is Your miracle; the Creator Lord Himself has installed You on the throne.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਸਿਖੀ ਅਤੈ ਸੰਗਤੀ <strong>ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ</strong> ਕਰਿ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਿਆ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">sikhee athai sangathee <strong>paarabreham</strong> kar namasakaariaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">The Sikhs and all the Congregation recognize You as the <strong>Supreme Lord God</strong>, and bow down to You. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਅਟਲੁ ਅਥਾਹੁ ਅਤੋਲੁ ਤੂ ਤੇਰਾ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਪਾਰਾਵਾਰਿਆ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">attal athhaahu athol thoo thaeraa anth n paaraavaariaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">You are unchanging, unfathomable and immeasurable; You have no end or limitation.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">~SGGS Ji p. 968</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਗਾਵਹਿ ਕਪਿਲਾਦਿ ਆਦਿ ਜੋਗੇਸੁਰ ਅਪਰੰਪਰ <strong>ਅਵਤਾਰ</strong> ਵਰੋ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">gaavehi kapilaadh aadh jogaesur aparanpar <strong>avathaar</strong> varo ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">Kapila and the other Yogis sing of Guru Nanak. He is the<strong> Avataar, the Incarnation of the Infinite Lord.</strong></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">~SGGS Ji p. 1389</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਹੁਕਮਿ ਉਪਾਏ <strong>ਦਸ ਅਉਤਾਰਾ </strong>॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">hukam oupaaeae <strong>dhas aouthaaraa </strong>||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">By His Hukam, He created His<strong> ten incarnations</strong>,</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਦੇਵ ਦਾਨਵ ਅਗਣਤ ਅਪਾਰਾ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">dhaev dhaanav aganath apaaraa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">and the uncounted and infinite gods and devils.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">~SGGS Ji p. 1037</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I mean that the physical body of Guruji is not God but created being, yet the Jyot of Guruji in all His physical forms, including Shabad Guru Ji Maharaaj, is Parabrahm. The surat is merged with the Shabad. This is why Guruji is NOT a mere man, with an opinion like anyone elses which you can debate or discard. This is HOW Guruji was able to bring the Shabad Naam into the sansaar and create a boat of mukti for humankind. No ordinary person with human consciousness could reach beyond the sansaar and grasp the nirgun and sargun infinity of Parabrahm Nirankaar, so Guruji's consciousness is merged with Almighty God, as Gurbani says:</p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">ਜੇਵਡੁ ਆਪਿ ਜਾਣੈ ਆਪਿ ਆਪਿ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">jaevadd aap jaanai aap aap ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">Only He Himself is that Great. He Himself knows Himself.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Indigo">~SGGS Ji p. 5</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਮੇਰੇ ਮਨ ਗੁਰ ਜੇਵਡੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਇ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">maerae man gur jaevadd avar n koe ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">O my mind, there is no other as great as the Guru. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਦੂਜਾ ਥਾਉ ਨ ਕੋ ਸੁਝੈ ਗੁਰ ਮੇਲੇ ਸਚੁ ਸੋਇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">dhoojaa thhaao n ko sujhai gur maelae sach soe ||1|| rehaao ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">I cannot imagine any other place. The Guru leads me to meet the True Lord. ||1||Pause||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਸਗਲ ਪਦਾਰਥ ਤਿਸੁ ਮਿਲੇ ਜਿਨਿ ਗੁਰੁ ਡਿਠਾ ਜਾਇ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">sagal padhaarathh this milae jin gur ddithaa jaae ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">Those who go to see the Guru obtain all treasures. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਗੁਰ ਚਰਣੀ ਜਿਨ ਮਨੁ ਲਗਾ ਸੇ ਵਡਭਾਗੀ ਮਾਇ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">gur charanee jin man lagaa sae vaddabhaagee maae ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">Those whose minds are attached to the Guru's Feet are very fortunate, O my mother. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਗੁਰੁ ਦਾਤਾ ਸਮਰਥੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਸਭ ਮਹਿ ਰਹਿਆ ਸਮਾਇ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">gur dhaathaa samarathh gur gur sabh mehi rehiaa samaae ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">The Guru is the Giver, the Guru is All-powerful. The Guru is All-pervading, contained amongst all. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਗੁਰੁ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਡੁਬਦਾ ਲਏ ਤਰਾਇ ॥੨॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">gur paramaesar paarabreham gur ddubadhaa leae tharaae ||2||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">The Guru is the Transcendent Lord, the Supreme Lord God. The Guru lifts up and saves those who are drowning. ||2|| </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਕਿਤੁ ਮੁਖਿ ਗੁਰੁ ਸਾਲਾਹੀਐ ਕਰਣ ਕਾਰਣ ਸਮਰਥੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">kith mukh gur saalaaheeai karan kaaran samarathh ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">How shall I praise the Guru, the All-powerful Cause of causes? </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਸੇ ਮਥੇ ਨਿਹਚਲ ਰਹੇ ਜਿਨ ਗੁਰਿ ਧਾਰਿਆ ਹਥੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">sae mathhae nihachal rehae jin gur dhhaariaa hathh ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">Those, upon whose foreheads the Guru has placed His Hand, remain steady and stable. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਗੁਰਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਨਾਮੁ ਪੀਆਲਿਆ ਜਨਮ ਮਰਨ ਕਾ ਪਥੁ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">gur anmrith naam peeaaliaa janam maran kaa pathh ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">The Guru has led me to drink in the Ambrosial Nectar of the Naam, the Name of the Lord; He has released me from the cycle of birth and death. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">ਗੁਰੁ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਸੇਵਿਆ ਭੈ ਭੰਜਨੁ ਦੁਖ ਲਥੁ ॥੩॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">gur paramaesar saeviaa bhai bhanjan dhukh lathh ||3||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">I serve the Guru, the Transcendent Lord, the Dispeller of fear; my suffering has been taken away. ||3||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Navy">~SGGS Ji p. 49</span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So which is it, they can be done but not allowed? Or they can't be done?</p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਸਿਧੁ ਹੋਵਾ <strong>ਸਿਧਿ</strong> ਲਾਈ <strong>ਰਿਧਿ</strong> ਆਖਾ ਆਉ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">sidhh hovaa<strong> sidhh</strong> laaee<strong> ridhh</strong> aakhaa aao ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">If I were to become a<strong> Siddha</strong>, and work <strong>miracles</strong>, summon wealth </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਗੁਪਤੁ ਪਰਗਟੁ ਹੋਇ ਬੈਸਾ ਲੋਕੁ ਰਾਖੈ ਭਾਉ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">gupath paragatt hoe baisaa lok raakhai bhaao ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">and become invisible and visible at will, so that people would hold me in awe </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">ਮਤੁ ਦੇਖਿ ਭੂਲਾ ਵੀਸਰੈ ਤੇਰਾ ਚਿਤਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਨਾਉ ॥੩॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">math dhaekh bhoolaa veesarai thaeraa chith n aavai naao ||3||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">-seeing these, I might go astray and forget You, and Your Name would not enter into my mind. ||3||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Blue">~SGGS Ji p. 14</span></p><p></p><p>Gurbani clearly says siddhas can work powers but this can cause them to go astray and forget God. It doesn't say miraculous powers are not possible for a human being.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਸੁਖ ਸਾਗਰ ਸੁਰਿਤਰੁ ਚਿੰਤਾਮਨਿ <strong>ਕਾਮਧੇਨ</strong> ਬਸਿ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਰੇ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">sukh saagar surithar chinthaaman <strong>kaamadhhaen</strong> bas jaa kae rae ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">The Lord is the ocean of peace; the miraculous tree of life, the jewel of miracles and the <strong>wish-fulfilling cow</strong> are all under His power. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਚਾਰਿ ਪਦਾਰਥ <strong>ਅਸਟ ਮਹਾ ਸਿਧਿ</strong> ਨਵ ਨਿਧਿ ਕਰ ਤਲ;;; ਤਾ ਕੈ ॥੧॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">chaar <strong>padhaarathh asatt mehaa</strong> sidhh nav nidhh kar thal thaa kai ||1||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">The four great blessings, the<strong> eight great miraculous spiritual powers</strong> and the nine treasures are in the palm of His hand. ||1|| </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨ ਜਪਸਿ ਰਸਨਾ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">har har har n japas rasanaa ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">Why don't you chant the Lord's Name, Har, Har, Har? </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">ਅਵਰ ਸਭ ਛਾਡਿ ਬਚਨ ਰਚਨਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">avar sabh shhaadd bachan rachanaa ||1|| rehaao ||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">Abandon all other devices of words. ||1||Pause||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: Purple">~SGGS Ji p. 1106</span></p><p></p><p>Gurbani says there are 8 miraculous spiritual powers and that the Lord God Himself is the jewel of miracles. Thus, there is also some positive spiritual development which works through the God which is the blessing of holiness. Nowhere does Gurbani say miracles are impossible, miracles are forbidden. Nowhere. There is a careful message of spiritual maturity on how to obtain those powers and how NOT to selfishly use them. But the search for a Gurmukh is for the Giver of Gifts, and not to selfishly seek Him merely for His gifts. And that is a very different matter. Gurbani is describing the God as a great boon, fulfiller of wishes and miracles and blessing. So clearly what powers are ascribed to God are wonders. But the greatest miracle of Gurbani is that we have a Satguru who can lead us to the God and liberate us from the ocean of suffering. You are right, spiritual path is not about dazzling feats which boost the ego. But this is not to discredit that God is all-powerful and capable of miraculous or wondrous intervention to transform the lives of human beings for the better. </p><p></p><p>The thing about miracles, even if someone's life is saved through amazing means (and such events have occured), those persons still have to die when it is their time. No one on the planet is immune from suffering. The key is not to chase after miracles, but to live drenched in the Presence of the miracle maker. And who can deny good people and blessings give great peace to the suffering. Such things are a medicine and a seva. This is NOT the same as some baba trying to make money off the gullible. So let's be wise and not confuse true blessing, true Presence of Vaheguru, and authentic miracle (which may be as hidden as simply giving someone something to live for who was wanting to die and not be dramatic like cancer cure) with something negative like egotism and riddhia siddhia. Because we are talking about radically different things. </p><p></p><p>But in truth, if you deny the possibility of wondrous efficacy of Shabad, prayer and Naam Jap, then don't be surprised if calamity befalls your life and nothing intervenes, because you have to be OPEN to the Presence of Guru and TRUST in the reality of Guru and BELIEVE that God is capable to actually intervene in order for it to ever happen. Even medical doctors acknowledge that people with faith and positive outlook have had spontaneous remissions and cures, so clearly, even medically something is at work, and faith is a part of it.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.bottomlinesecrets.com/blpnet/article.html?article_id=42254" target="_blank">Medical Miracles Really Do Happen</a></p><p></p><p>~bhul chak maaf karni ji</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harjas Kaur Khalsa, post: 80715, member: 2125"] [b]Re: Miracles in Guru Granth Sahib Ji[/b] As you may appreciate, personal opionion, while valid to the person (and everyone has personal opinions) doesn't carry much weight when it comes to analyzing what Sikhism does or does not teach regarding belief. So let's have a look at some tuuks and pauris of Gurbani and see where these ideas may have a basis in Sikh teaching: [B]1. Ghosts:[/B] [INDENT][COLOR="Purple"]ਜਿਤੁ ਦਿਨਿ ਦੇਹ ਬਿਨਸਸੀ ਤਿਤੁ ਵੇਲੈ ਕਹਸਨਿ [B]ਪ੍ਰੇਤ[/B]ੁ ॥ jith dhin dhaeh binasasee thith vaelai kehasan [B]praeth [/B]|| On that day when the body perishes-at that time, she becomes a [B]ghost.[/B] ਪਕੜਿ ਚਲਾਇਨਿ ਦੂਤ ਜਮ ਕਿਸੈ ਨ ਦੇਨੀ ਭੇਤੁ ॥ pakarr chalaaein dhooth jam kisai n dhaenee bhaeth || The Messenger of Death seizes and holds her, and does not tell anyone his secret. ਛਡਿ ਖੜੋਤੇ ਖਿਨੈ ਮਾਹਿ ਜਿਨ ਸਿਉ ਲਗਾ ਹੇਤੁ ॥ shhadd kharrothae khinai maahi jin sio lagaa haeth || And her loved ones-in an instant, they move on, leaving her all alone. ਹਥ ਮਰੋੜੈ ਤਨੁ ਕਪੇ ਸਿਆਹਹੁ ਹੋਆ ਸੇਤੁ ॥ hathh marorrai than kapae siaahahu hoaa saeth || She wrings her hands, her body writhes in pain, and she turns from black to white. ਜੇਹਾ ਬੀਜੈ ਸੋ ਲੁਣੈ ਕਰਮਾ ਸੰਦੜਾ ਖੇਤੁ ॥ jaehaa beejai so lunai karamaa sandharraa khaeth || As she has planted, so does she harvest; such is the field of karma. ~SGGS Ji p. 134[/COLOR][/INDENT] When it comes to a concept like "ghosts" it becomes unclear what is not believed in. Is it untrue that every physical being possesses an atma, or spiritual sheaths which encase an atma so that at death of the body there is a perceivable afterlife? Is it untrue that such disembodied "spirits" of either people or inhuman beings would manifest on the material plane to be perceived by living people? So I'm not sure what is not believed in Sikhism, is it atma, spiritual sheaths surrounding atma, afterlife, haunting spirit? [INDENT][COLOR="Navy"]ਸਭ ਕਿਛੁ ਜੀਵਤ ਕੋ ਬਿਵਹਾਰ ॥ sabh kishh jeevath ko bivehaar || All things are mere diversions of life: ਮਾਤ ਪਿਤਾ ਭਾਈ ਸੁਤ ਬੰਧਪ ਅਰੁ ਫੁਨਿ ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਕੀ ਨਾਰਿ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ maath pithaa bhaaee suth bandhhap ar fun grih kee naar ||1|| rehaao || mother, father, siblings, children, relatives and the wife of your home. ||1||Pause|| ਤਨ ਤੇ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਹੋਤ ਜਬ ਨਿਆਰੇ ਟੇਰਤ [B]ਪ੍ਰੇਤਿ [/B]ਪੁਕਾਰਿ ॥ than thae praan hoth jab niaarae ttaerath [B]praeth[/B] pukaar || When the soul is separated from the body, then they will cry out, calling you a [B]ghost[/B]. ਆਧ ਘਰੀ ਕੋਊ ਨਹਿ ਰਾਖੈ ਘਰ ਤੇ ਦੇਤ ਨਿਕਾਰਿ ॥੧॥ aadhh gharee kooo nehi raakhai ghar thae dhaeth nikaar ||1|| No one will let you stay, for even half an hour; they drive you out of the house. ||1|| ਮ੍ਰਿਗ ਤ੍ਰਿਸਨਾ ਜਿਉ ਜਗ ਰਚਨਾ ਯਹ ਦੇਖਹੁ ਰਿਦੈ ਬਿਚਾਰਿ ॥ mrig thrisanaa jio jag rachanaa yeh dhaekhahu ridhai bichaar || The created world is like an illusion, a mirage - see this, and reflect upon it in your mind. ~SGGS Ji p. 536[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="Purple"]ਸੁਖ ਮੈ ਆਨਿ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਮਿਲਿ ਬੈਠਤ ਰਹਤ ਚਹੂ ਦਿਸਿ ਘੇਰੈ ॥ sukh mai aan bahuth mil baithath rehath chehoo dhis ghaerai || In good times, many come and sit together, surrounding you on all four sides. ਬਿਪਤਿ ਪਰੀ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਸੰਗੁ ਛਾਡਿਤ ਕੋਊ ਨ ਆਵਤ ਨੇਰੈ ॥੧॥ bipath paree sabh hee sang shhaaddith kooo n aavath naerai ||1|| But when hard times come, they all leave, and no one comes near you. ||1|| ਘਰ ਕੀ ਨਾਰਿ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਹਿਤੁ ਜਾ ਸਿਉ ਸਦਾ ਰਹਤ ਸੰਗ ਲਾਗੀ ॥ ghar kee naar bahuth hith jaa sio sadhaa rehath sang laagee || Your wife, whom you love so much, and who has remained ever attached to you, ਜਬ ਹੀ ਹੰਸ ਤਜੀ ਇਹ ਕਾਂਇਆ ਪ੍ਰੇਤ ਪ੍ਰੇਤ ਕਰਿ ਭਾਗੀ ॥੨॥ jab hee hans thajee eih kaaneiaa praeth praeth kar bhaagee ||2|| runs away crying, ""Ghost! Ghost!"", as soon as the swan-soul leaves this body. ||2|| ਇਹ ਬਿਧਿ ਕੋ ਬਿਉਹਾਰੁ ਬਨਿਓ ਹੈ ਜਾ ਸਿਉ ਨੇਹੁ ਲਗਾਇਓ ॥ eih bidhh ko biouhaar baniou hai jaa sio naehu lagaaeiou || This is the way they act - those whom we love so much. ਅੰਤ ਬਾਰ ਨਾਨਕ ਬਿਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਜੀ ਕੋਊ ਕਾਮਿ ਨ ਆਇਓ ॥੩॥੧੨॥੧੩੯॥ anth baar naanak bin har jee kooo kaam n aaeiou ||3||12||139|| At the very last moment, O Nanak, no one is any use at all, except the Dear Lord. ||3||12||139|| ~SGGS Ji p. 634[/COLOR][/INDENT] [B]2. Jamdoot:[/B] [INDENT][COLOR="Navy"]ਜਿਹਵਾ ਜਲਉ ਜਲਾਵਣੀ ਨਾਮੁ ਨ ਜਪੈ ਰਸਾਇ ॥ jihavaa jalo jalaavanee naam n japai rasaae || Let that tongue be burnt in flames, which does not chant the Naam with love. ਘਟੁ ਬਿਨਸੈ ਦੁਖੁ ਅਗਲੋ [B]ਜਮ[/B]ੁ ਪਕੜੈ ਪਛੁਤਾਇ ॥੫॥ ghatt binasai dhukh agalo jam pakarrai pashhuthaae ||5|| When the pitcher of the body bursts, there is terrible pain; those who are caught by the [B]Minister of Death[/B] regret and repent. ||5|| ਮੇਰੀ ਮੇਰੀ ਕਰਿ ਗਏ ਤਨੁ ਧਨੁ ਕਲਤੁ ਨ ਸਾਥਿ ॥ maeree maeree kar geae than dhhan kalath n saathh || Crying out, ""Mine! Mine!"", they have departed, but their bodies, their wealth, and their wives did not go with them. ਬਿਨੁ ਨਾਵੈ ਧਨੁ ਬਾਦਿ ਹੈ ਭੂਲੋ ਮਾਰਗਿ ਆਥਿ ॥ bin naavai dhhan baadh hai bhoolo maarag aathh || Without the Name, wealth is useless; deceived by wealth, they have lost their way. ~SGGS Ji p. 59[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="DarkSlateBlue"]ਚਿਤ੍ਰ ਗੁਪਤ ਕਾ ਕਾਗਦੁ ਫਾਰਿਆ [B]ਜਮਦੂਤਾ[/B] ਕਛੂ ਨ ਚਲੀ ॥ chithr gupath kaa kaagadh faariaa [B]jamadhoothaa[/B] kashhoo n chalee || The accounts of Chitr and Gupt, the recording scribes of the conscious and the subconscious are torn up, and the [B]Messenger of Death[/B] cannot do anything. ~SGGS Ji p. 79[/COLOR][/INDENT] [B]3. Heaven & Hell:[/B] [INDENT][COLOR="Purple"]ਤੇਰਾ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਪਾਇਆ ਸੁਰਗਿ ਮਛਿ ਪਇਆਲਿ ਜੀਉ ॥੧॥ thaeraa anth n paaeiaa [B]surag[/B] mashh paeiaal jeeo ||1|| Your limits are not known to any of the beings in the [B]heavens[/B], in this world, or in the nether regions of the underworld. ||1|| ~SGGS Ji p. 71[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="Navy"]ਚਿਤਿ ਨ ਆਇਓ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਤਾ ਖੜਿ [B]ਰਸਾਤਲਿ [/B]ਦੀਤ ॥੭॥ chith n aaeiou paarabreham thaa kharr[B] rasaathal[/B] dheeth ||7|| But still, if you do not come to remember the Supreme Lord God, then you shall be taken and consigned to the most [B]hideous hell[/B]! ||7|| ਕਾਇਆ ਰੋਗੁ ਨ ਛਿਦ੍ਰੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਨਾ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਾੜਾ ਸੋਗੁ ॥ kaaeiaa rog n shhidhra kishh naa kishh kaarraa sog || You may have a body free of disease and deformity, and have no worries or grief at all; ਮਿਰਤੁ ਨ ਆਵੀ ਚਿਤਿ ਤਿਸੁ ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ ਭੋਗੈ ਭੋਗੁ ॥ mirath n aavee chith this ahinis bhogai bhog || you may be unmindful of death, and night and day revel in pleasures; ਸਭ ਕਿਛੁ ਕੀਤੋਨੁ ਆਪਣਾ ਜੀਇ ਨ ਸੰਕ ਧਰਿਆ ॥ sabh kishh keethon aapanaa jeee n sank dhhariaa || you may take everything as your own, and have no fear in your mind at all; ਚਿਤਿ ਨ ਆਇਓ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ [B]ਜਮਕੰਕਰ[/B] ਵਸਿ ਪਰਿਆ ॥੮॥ chith n aaeiou paarabreham [B]jamakankar[/B] vas pariaa ||8|| but still, if you do not come to remember the Supreme Lord God, you shall fall under the power of the [B]Messenger of Death[/B]. ||8|| ~SGGS Ji p. 71[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="Indigo"]ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਬੇਦ ਪਾਪ ਪੁੰਨ ਵੀਚਾਰ ॥ saasathr baedh paap punn veechaar || The Shaastras and the Vedas speak of sin and virtue; [B]ਨਰਕਿ ਸੁਰਗਿ [/B]ਫਿਰਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਅਉਤਾਰ ॥੨॥ [B]narak surag[/B] fir fir aouthaar ||2|| they say that mortals are reincarnated into [B]heaven and hell[/B], over and over again. ||2|| ਗਿਰਸਤ ਮਹਿ ਚਿੰਤ ਉਦਾਸ ਅਹੰਕਾਰ ॥ girasath mehi chinth oudhaas ahankaar || In the householder's life, there is anxiety, and in the life of the renunciate, there is egotism. ~SGGS Ji p. 385[/COLOR][/INDENT] [B]4. Incarnation ( Avtaar Vaad , God taking birth in human form): [/B] [INDENT][COLOR="Purple"]ਹੁਕਮੇ ਸਿਵ ਸਕਤੀ ਘਰਿ ਵਾਸਾ ਹੁਕਮੇ ਖੇਲ ਖੇਲਾਇਦਾ ॥੧੧॥ hukamae siv sakathee ghar vaasaa hukamae khael khaelaaeidhaa ||11|| By His Hukam, one dwells in the house of matter and energy - Shiva and Shakti. By His Hukam, He plays His plays. ||11|| ਹੁਕਮੇ ਆਡਾਣੇ ਆਗਾਸੀ ॥ hukamae aaddaanae aagaasee || By the Hukam of His command, the sky is spread above. ਹੁਕਮੇ ਜਲ ਥਲ ਤ੍ਰਿਭਵਣ ਵਾਸੀ ॥ hukamae jal thhal thribhavan vaasee || By His Hukam, His creatures dwell in the water, on the land and throughout the three worlds. ਹੁਕਮੇ ਸਾਸ ਗਿਰਾਸ ਸਦਾ ਫੁਨਿ ਹੁਕਮੇ ਦੇਖਿ ਦਿਖਾਇਦਾ ॥੧੨॥ hukamae saas giraas sadhaa fun hukamae dhaekh dhikhaaeidhaa ||12|| By His Hukam, we draw our breath and receive our food; by His Hukam, He watches over us, and inspires us to see. ||12|| ਹੁਕਮਿ ਉਪਾਏ [B]ਦਸ ਅਉਤਾਰਾ[/B] ॥ hukam oupaaeae [B]dhas aouthaaraa[/B] || By His Hukam, He created His [B]ten incarnations[/B], ਦੇਵ ਦਾਨਵ ਅਗਣਤ ਅਪਾਰਾ ॥ dhaev dhaanav aganath apaaraa || and the uncounted and infinite gods and devils. ਮਾਨੈ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਸੁ ਦਰਗਹ ਪੈਝੈ ਸਾਚਿ ਮਿਲਾਇ ਸਮਾਇਦਾ ॥੧੩॥ maanai hukam s dharageh paijhai saach milaae samaaeidhaa ||13|| Whoever obeys the Hukam of His Command, is robed with honor in the Court of the Lord; united with the Truth, He merges in the Lord. ||13|| ਹੁਕਮੇ ਜੁਗ ਛਤੀਹ ਗੁਦਾਰੇ ॥ hukamae jug shhatheeh gudhaarae || By the Hukam of His Command, the thirty-six ages passed. ਹੁਕਮੇ ਸਿਧ ਸਾਧਿਕ ਵੀਚਾਰੇ ॥ hukamae sidhh saadhhik veechaarae || By His Hukam, the Siddhas and seekers contemplate Him. ~SGGS Ji p. 1037[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="Navy"]ਸੁੰਨਹੁ ਉਪਜੇ [B]ਦਸ ਅਵਤਾਰਾ[/B] ॥ sunnahu oupajae [B]dhas avathaaraa[/B] || From the Primal Void, the [B]ten incarnations[/B] welled up. ਸ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਉਪਾਇ ਕੀਆ ਪਾਸਾਰਾ ॥ srisatt oupaae keeaa paasaaraa || Creating the Universe, He made the expanse. ਦੇਵ ਦਾਨਵ ਗਣ ਗੰਧਰਬ ਸਾਜੇ ਸਭਿ ਲਿਖਿਆ ਕਰਮ ਕਮਾਇਦਾ ॥੧੨॥ dhaev dhaanav gan gandhharab saajae sabh likhiaa karam kamaaeidhaa ||12|| He fashioned the demi-gods and demons, the heavenly heralds and celestial musicians; everyone acts according to their past karma. ||12|| ~SGGS Ji p. 1038[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="Indigo"]ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬਿਸਨੁ ਮਹੇਸੁ ਦੇਵ ਉਪਾਇਆ ॥ brehamaa bisan mehaes dhaev oupaaeiaa || Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva and the deities were created. ਬ੍ਰਹਮੇ ਦਿਤੇ ਬੇਦ ਪੂਜਾ ਲਾਇਆ ॥ brehamae dhithae baedh poojaa laaeiaa || Brahma was given the Vedas, and enjoined to worship God. [B]ਦਸ ਅਵਤਾਰੀ[/B] ਰਾਮੁ ਰਾਜਾ ਆਇਆ ॥ [B]dhas avathaaree[/B] raam raajaa aaeiaa || [B]The ten incarnations[/B], and Rama the king, came into being. ਦੈਤਾ ਮਾਰੇ ਧਾਇ ਹੁਕਮਿ ਸਬਾਇਆ ॥ dhaithaa maarae dhhaae hukam sabaaeiaa || According to His Will, they quickly killed all the demons. ਈਸ ਮਹੇਸੁਰੁ ਸੇਵ ਤਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹੀ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਪਾਇਆ ॥ ees mehaesur saev thinhee anth n paaeiaa || Shiva serves Him, but cannot find His limits. ਸਚੀ ਕੀਮਤਿ ਪਾਇ ਤਖਤੁ ਰਚਾਇਆ ॥ sachee keemath paae thakhath rachaaeiaa || He established His throne on the principles of Truth. ਦੁਨੀਆ ਧੰਧੈ ਲਾਇ ਆਪੁ ਛਪਾਇਆ ॥ dhuneeaa dhhandhhai laae aap shhapaaeiaa || He enjoined all the world to its tasks, while He keeps Himself hidden from view. ~SGGS Ji p. 1279 [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="Blue"]ਚਾਰੇ ਕੁੰਡਾਂ ਸੁਝੀਓਸੁ ਮਨ ਮਹਿ ਸਬਦੁ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ॥ chaarae kunddaan sujheeous man mehi sabadh paravaan || You understand the four corners of the universe; in your mind, the Word of the Shabad is approved and supreme. ਆਵਾ ਗਉਣੁ ਨਿਵਾਰਿਓ ਕਰਿ ਨਦਰਿ ਨੀਸਾਣੁ ॥ aavaa goun nivaariou kar nadhar neesaan || You eliminate the comings and goings of reincarnation, and bestow the insignia of Your Glance of Grace. ਅਉਤਰਿਆ [B]ਅਉਤਾਰੁ[/B] ਲੈ ਸੋ [B]ਪੁਰਖ[/B]ੁ ਸੁਜਾਣੁ ॥ aouthariaa [B]aouthaar[/B] lai so [B]purakh[/B] sujaan || You are the [B]Avataar, the Incarnation[/B] of the [B]all-knowing Primal Lord[/B]. ਝਖੜਿ ਵਾਉ ਨ ਡੋਲਈ ਪਰਬਤੁ ਮੇਰਾਣੁ ॥ jhakharr vaao n ddolee parabath maeraan || You are not pushed or shaken by the storm and the wind; you are like the Sumayr Mountain. ਜਾਣੈ ਬਿਰਥਾ ਜੀਅ ਕੀ ਜਾਣੀ ਹੂ ਜਾਣੁ ॥ jaanai birathhaa jeea kee jaanee hoo jaan || You know the inner state of the soul; You are the Knower of knowers. ਕਿਆ ਸਾਲਾਹੀ[B] ਸਚੇ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹ[/B] ਜਾਂ ਤੂ ਸੁਘੜੁ ਸੁਜਾਣੁ ॥ kiaa saalaahee [B]sachae paathisaah[/B] jaan thoo sugharr sujaan || How can I praise You, O [B]True Supreme King[/B], when You are so wise and all-knowing? ਦਾਨੁ ਜਿ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਭਾਵਸੀ ਸੋ ਸਤੇ ਦਾਣੁ ॥ dhaan j sathigur bhaavasee so sathae dhaan || Those blessings granted by the Pleasure of the True Guru - please bless Satta with those gifts. ਨਾਨਕ ਹੰਦਾ ਛਤ੍ਰੁ ਸਿਰਿ ਉਮਤਿ ਹੈਰਾਣੁ ॥ naanak handhaa shhathra sir oumath hairaan || Seeing Nanak's canopy waving over Your head, everyone was astonished. ਸੋ ਟਿਕਾ ਸੋ ਬੈਹਣਾ ਸੋਈ ਦੀਬਾਣੁ ॥ so ttikaa so baihanaa soee dheebaan || The same mark on the forehead, the same throne, and the same Royal Court. ਪਿਯੂ ਦਾਦੇ ਜੇਵਿਹਾ ਪੋਤ੍ਰਾ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ॥੬॥ piyoo dhaadhae jaevihaa pothraa paravaan ||6|| Just like the father and grandfather, the son is approved. ||6|| ਧੰਨੁ ਧੰਨੁ ਰਾਮਦਾਸ ਗੁਰੁ ਜਿਨਿ ਸਿਰਿਆ ਤਿਨੈ ਸਵਾਰਿਆ ॥ dhhann dhhann raamadhaas gur jin siriaa thinai savaariaa || Blessed, blessed is Guru Raam Daas; He who created You, has also exalted You. ਪੂਰੀ ਹੋਈ ਕਰਾਮਾਤਿ ਆਪਿ ਸਿਰਜਣਹਾਰੈ ਧਾਰਿਆ ॥ pooree hoee karaamaath aap sirajanehaarai dhhaariaa || Perfect is Your miracle; the Creator Lord Himself has installed You on the throne. ਸਿਖੀ ਅਤੈ ਸੰਗਤੀ [B]ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ[/B] ਕਰਿ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਿਆ ॥ sikhee athai sangathee [B]paarabreham[/B] kar namasakaariaa || The Sikhs and all the Congregation recognize You as the [B]Supreme Lord God[/B], and bow down to You. ਅਟਲੁ ਅਥਾਹੁ ਅਤੋਲੁ ਤੂ ਤੇਰਾ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਪਾਰਾਵਾਰਿਆ ॥ attal athhaahu athol thoo thaeraa anth n paaraavaariaa || You are unchanging, unfathomable and immeasurable; You have no end or limitation. ~SGGS Ji p. 968[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="Purple"]ਗਾਵਹਿ ਕਪਿਲਾਦਿ ਆਦਿ ਜੋਗੇਸੁਰ ਅਪਰੰਪਰ [B]ਅਵਤਾਰ[/B] ਵਰੋ ॥ gaavehi kapilaadh aadh jogaesur aparanpar [B]avathaar[/B] varo || Kapila and the other Yogis sing of Guru Nanak. He is the[B] Avataar, the Incarnation of the Infinite Lord.[/B] ~SGGS Ji p. 1389[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="Navy"]ਹੁਕਮਿ ਉਪਾਏ [B]ਦਸ ਅਉਤਾਰਾ [/B]॥ hukam oupaaeae [B]dhas aouthaaraa [/B]|| By His Hukam, He created His[B] ten incarnations[/B], ਦੇਵ ਦਾਨਵ ਅਗਣਤ ਅਪਾਰਾ ॥ dhaev dhaanav aganath apaaraa || and the uncounted and infinite gods and devils. ~SGGS Ji p. 1037[/COLOR][/INDENT] I mean that the physical body of Guruji is not God but created being, yet the Jyot of Guruji in all His physical forms, including Shabad Guru Ji Maharaaj, is Parabrahm. The surat is merged with the Shabad. This is why Guruji is NOT a mere man, with an opinion like anyone elses which you can debate or discard. This is HOW Guruji was able to bring the Shabad Naam into the sansaar and create a boat of mukti for humankind. No ordinary person with human consciousness could reach beyond the sansaar and grasp the nirgun and sargun infinity of Parabrahm Nirankaar, so Guruji's consciousness is merged with Almighty God, as Gurbani says: [INDENT][COLOR="Indigo"]ਜੇਵਡੁ ਆਪਿ ਜਾਣੈ ਆਪਿ ਆਪਿ ॥ jaevadd aap jaanai aap aap || Only He Himself is that Great. He Himself knows Himself. ~SGGS Ji p. 5[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT][COLOR="Navy"]ਮੇਰੇ ਮਨ ਗੁਰ ਜੇਵਡੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਇ ॥ maerae man gur jaevadd avar n koe || O my mind, there is no other as great as the Guru. ਦੂਜਾ ਥਾਉ ਨ ਕੋ ਸੁਝੈ ਗੁਰ ਮੇਲੇ ਸਚੁ ਸੋਇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ dhoojaa thhaao n ko sujhai gur maelae sach soe ||1|| rehaao || I cannot imagine any other place. The Guru leads me to meet the True Lord. ||1||Pause|| ਸਗਲ ਪਦਾਰਥ ਤਿਸੁ ਮਿਲੇ ਜਿਨਿ ਗੁਰੁ ਡਿਠਾ ਜਾਇ ॥ sagal padhaarathh this milae jin gur ddithaa jaae || Those who go to see the Guru obtain all treasures. ਗੁਰ ਚਰਣੀ ਜਿਨ ਮਨੁ ਲਗਾ ਸੇ ਵਡਭਾਗੀ ਮਾਇ ॥ gur charanee jin man lagaa sae vaddabhaagee maae || Those whose minds are attached to the Guru's Feet are very fortunate, O my mother. ਗੁਰੁ ਦਾਤਾ ਸਮਰਥੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਸਭ ਮਹਿ ਰਹਿਆ ਸਮਾਇ ॥ gur dhaathaa samarathh gur gur sabh mehi rehiaa samaae || The Guru is the Giver, the Guru is All-powerful. The Guru is All-pervading, contained amongst all. ਗੁਰੁ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਡੁਬਦਾ ਲਏ ਤਰਾਇ ॥੨॥ gur paramaesar paarabreham gur ddubadhaa leae tharaae ||2|| The Guru is the Transcendent Lord, the Supreme Lord God. The Guru lifts up and saves those who are drowning. ||2|| ਕਿਤੁ ਮੁਖਿ ਗੁਰੁ ਸਾਲਾਹੀਐ ਕਰਣ ਕਾਰਣ ਸਮਰਥੁ ॥ kith mukh gur saalaaheeai karan kaaran samarathh || How shall I praise the Guru, the All-powerful Cause of causes? ਸੇ ਮਥੇ ਨਿਹਚਲ ਰਹੇ ਜਿਨ ਗੁਰਿ ਧਾਰਿਆ ਹਥੁ ॥ sae mathhae nihachal rehae jin gur dhhaariaa hathh || Those, upon whose foreheads the Guru has placed His Hand, remain steady and stable. ਗੁਰਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਨਾਮੁ ਪੀਆਲਿਆ ਜਨਮ ਮਰਨ ਕਾ ਪਥੁ ॥ gur anmrith naam peeaaliaa janam maran kaa pathh || The Guru has led me to drink in the Ambrosial Nectar of the Naam, the Name of the Lord; He has released me from the cycle of birth and death. ਗੁਰੁ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਸੇਵਿਆ ਭੈ ਭੰਜਨੁ ਦੁਖ ਲਥੁ ॥੩॥ gur paramaesar saeviaa bhai bhanjan dhukh lathh ||3|| I serve the Guru, the Transcendent Lord, the Dispeller of fear; my suffering has been taken away. ||3|| ~SGGS Ji p. 49[/COLOR][/INDENT] So which is it, they can be done but not allowed? Or they can't be done? [INDENT][COLOR="Blue"]ਸਿਧੁ ਹੋਵਾ [B]ਸਿਧਿ[/B] ਲਾਈ [B]ਰਿਧਿ[/B] ਆਖਾ ਆਉ ॥ sidhh hovaa[B] sidhh[/B] laaee[B] ridhh[/B] aakhaa aao || If I were to become a[B] Siddha[/B], and work [B]miracles[/B], summon wealth ਗੁਪਤੁ ਪਰਗਟੁ ਹੋਇ ਬੈਸਾ ਲੋਕੁ ਰਾਖੈ ਭਾਉ ॥ gupath paragatt hoe baisaa lok raakhai bhaao || and become invisible and visible at will, so that people would hold me in awe ਮਤੁ ਦੇਖਿ ਭੂਲਾ ਵੀਸਰੈ ਤੇਰਾ ਚਿਤਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਨਾਉ ॥੩॥ math dhaekh bhoolaa veesarai thaeraa chith n aavai naao ||3|| -seeing these, I might go astray and forget You, and Your Name would not enter into my mind. ||3|| ~SGGS Ji p. 14[/COLOR][/INDENT] Gurbani clearly says siddhas can work powers but this can cause them to go astray and forget God. It doesn't say miraculous powers are not possible for a human being. [INDENT][COLOR="Purple"]ਸੁਖ ਸਾਗਰ ਸੁਰਿਤਰੁ ਚਿੰਤਾਮਨਿ [B]ਕਾਮਧੇਨ[/B] ਬਸਿ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਰੇ ॥ sukh saagar surithar chinthaaman [B]kaamadhhaen[/B] bas jaa kae rae || The Lord is the ocean of peace; the miraculous tree of life, the jewel of miracles and the [B]wish-fulfilling cow[/B] are all under His power. ਚਾਰਿ ਪਦਾਰਥ [B]ਅਸਟ ਮਹਾ ਸਿਧਿ[/B] ਨਵ ਨਿਧਿ ਕਰ ਤਲ;;; ਤਾ ਕੈ ॥੧॥ chaar [B]padhaarathh asatt mehaa[/B] sidhh nav nidhh kar thal thaa kai ||1|| The four great blessings, the[B] eight great miraculous spiritual powers[/B] and the nine treasures are in the palm of His hand. ||1|| ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨ ਜਪਸਿ ਰਸਨਾ ॥ har har har n japas rasanaa || Why don't you chant the Lord's Name, Har, Har, Har? ਅਵਰ ਸਭ ਛਾਡਿ ਬਚਨ ਰਚਨਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ avar sabh shhaadd bachan rachanaa ||1|| rehaao || Abandon all other devices of words. ||1||Pause|| ~SGGS Ji p. 1106[/COLOR][/INDENT] Gurbani says there are 8 miraculous spiritual powers and that the Lord God Himself is the jewel of miracles. Thus, there is also some positive spiritual development which works through the God which is the blessing of holiness. Nowhere does Gurbani say miracles are impossible, miracles are forbidden. Nowhere. There is a careful message of spiritual maturity on how to obtain those powers and how NOT to selfishly use them. But the search for a Gurmukh is for the Giver of Gifts, and not to selfishly seek Him merely for His gifts. And that is a very different matter. Gurbani is describing the God as a great boon, fulfiller of wishes and miracles and blessing. So clearly what powers are ascribed to God are wonders. But the greatest miracle of Gurbani is that we have a Satguru who can lead us to the God and liberate us from the ocean of suffering. You are right, spiritual path is not about dazzling feats which boost the ego. But this is not to discredit that God is all-powerful and capable of miraculous or wondrous intervention to transform the lives of human beings for the better. The thing about miracles, even if someone's life is saved through amazing means (and such events have occured), those persons still have to die when it is their time. No one on the planet is immune from suffering. The key is not to chase after miracles, but to live drenched in the Presence of the miracle maker. And who can deny good people and blessings give great peace to the suffering. Such things are a medicine and a seva. This is NOT the same as some baba trying to make money off the gullible. So let's be wise and not confuse true blessing, true Presence of Vaheguru, and authentic miracle (which may be as hidden as simply giving someone something to live for who was wanting to die and not be dramatic like cancer cure) with something negative like egotism and riddhia siddhia. Because we are talking about radically different things. But in truth, if you deny the possibility of wondrous efficacy of Shabad, prayer and Naam Jap, then don't be surprised if calamity befalls your life and nothing intervenes, because you have to be OPEN to the Presence of Guru and TRUST in the reality of Guru and BELIEVE that God is capable to actually intervene in order for it to ever happen. Even medical doctors acknowledge that people with faith and positive outlook have had spontaneous remissions and cures, so clearly, even medically something is at work, and faith is a part of it. [URL="http://www.bottomlinesecrets.com/blpnet/article.html?article_id=42254"]Medical Miracles Really Do Happen[/URL] ~bhul chak maaf karni ji [/QUOTE]
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