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Guru Granth Sahib
Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="simpy" data-source="post: 25002" data-attributes="member: 9395"><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue">Respected Veer Balbir Singh Ji,</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue">As I said before I may be wrong. I used to wonder about this as well. But then I tried to find out why people say they use it and does it really work. My research boils down to this: it can be used to start, but it works for only those people who have very strong belief in Bani. If they believe only in Numerology, it may bring some material benefits for them as they are the ones who do it more like lip-reading, there is no spiritual uplift of any kind.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue">There is neither only one religion in this world nor only one belief. So if something works for a person to start on a rightous path, I do not think it is bad. Take the example of Bhagat Dhanna: Guru Sahib has not recomended Murti Puja anywhere, but his mention is there in Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. We all know that he did stone worship, <u>BUT WITH ONE POINTEDNESS</u>, and was enlightened. Again, I am not recomending stone worship. It all depends how the person percieves things, once he/she is actually starting to follow Guru's teachings. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue">Take the example of Bhumian chor, he was not ready to stop stealing but he was so truthful to Guru's word and actually did all what Guru Sahib told him to do. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue"><u>One poitedness is all that matters.</u> Once a person is so lost in what Guru is saying, i tell you nothing else remains. Any body from any religion, one who is a realized person, will not denounce any phylosophy that can put you to a start. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue">Guru Sahib when talks about ginti ganana and all that, is bewaring us not to get lost into such practices. There are so many people who use the nitnem schedules, how many are the realized souls out of them. Main reason is that they are lost in completing their nitnem everyday, that is all, there is no concentration on what is being read. </span></span><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue">Exactly same is with number idiology, you get lost in numbers you are lost.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: red"><strong>Bani is so powerfull veerji, it turns the toughest around. These numbers and these nitnem styles loose their power once bani reaches into rom rom, provided it is done with one pointedness.</strong></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="simpy, post: 25002, member: 9395"] [SIZE=4][COLOR=blue]Respected Veer Balbir Singh Ji,[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][COLOR=blue]As I said before I may be wrong. I used to wonder about this as well. But then I tried to find out why people say they use it and does it really work. My research boils down to this: it can be used to start, but it works for only those people who have very strong belief in Bani. If they believe only in Numerology, it may bring some material benefits for them as they are the ones who do it more like lip-reading, there is no spiritual uplift of any kind.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][COLOR=blue]There is neither only one religion in this world nor only one belief. So if something works for a person to start on a rightous path, I do not think it is bad. Take the example of Bhagat Dhanna: Guru Sahib has not recomended Murti Puja anywhere, but his mention is there in Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. We all know that he did stone worship, [U]BUT WITH ONE POINTEDNESS[/U], and was enlightened. Again, I am not recomending stone worship. It all depends how the person percieves things, once he/she is actually starting to follow Guru's teachings. [/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][COLOR=blue]Take the example of Bhumian chor, he was not ready to stop stealing but he was so truthful to Guru's word and actually did all what Guru Sahib told him to do. [/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][COLOR=blue][U]One poitedness is all that matters.[/U] Once a person is so lost in what Guru is saying, i tell you nothing else remains. Any body from any religion, one who is a realized person, will not denounce any phylosophy that can put you to a start. [/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][COLOR=blue]Guru Sahib when talks about ginti ganana and all that, is bewaring us not to get lost into such practices. There are so many people who use the nitnem schedules, how many are the realized souls out of them. Main reason is that they are lost in completing their nitnem everyday, that is all, there is no concentration on what is being read. [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=4][COLOR=blue]Exactly same is with number idiology, you get lost in numbers you are lost.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][COLOR=red][B]Bani is so powerfull veerji, it turns the toughest around. These numbers and these nitnem styles loose their power once bani reaches into rom rom, provided it is done with one pointedness.[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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