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Guru Granth Sahib
Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="simpy" data-source="post: 26229" data-attributes="member: 9395"><p><strong>Re: Mathatakna</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue">Respected AmarSanghera Ji,</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue">My effort was to just clarify the subject under discussion. i believe and practice: While we are traveling this shared journey, why not travel it well and be very clear about what we are doing and why. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue">When i read your post;</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue">“</span></span></span><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-size: 15px">Surrender to the will of Guru or God?</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-size: 15px">I echo views of Max.... though for me it is more of an emotional expression of respect to my beloved Guru and thanking Guru for showing me the way to God.” </span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-size: 15px">i realized exactly what you were thinking and i knew you are simply not able to verbally accept what your inner voice is telling you. That’s why before saying anything i asked for your explanation. And i did not add anything new to it, just elaborated it.</span></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue">Mostly Sikhs are too shy to say that this Mathatakna represents our complete surrender of ego; as mostly it is not being done in practice at all. Mostly it is considered just an outward ritual. That is why it is being treated like idol worship. A lot of people even born in Sikh families are refraining themselves from going to Gurudwara Sahib because they think that Sikh Gurudwaras are now indulging in the idol worshipping. Singing and listening to Bani has become a means of mere sensory enjoyment for many Gurudwara goers.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue">Worshipping an idol/object as opposed to God is what is not correct. When we talk about Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji we are not talking about an object/book/granth/pothi here; we are talking about complete consciousness (absolute knowledge). Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the embodiment of Divine Light not just for the Sikhs but also for all. This is Dhur Ki Bani. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue">Read it, Learn it, Understand it and Live it……</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: blue">Guru Bhala Karey</span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="simpy, post: 26229, member: 9395"] [b]Re: Mathatakna[/b] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=4][COLOR=blue]Respected AmarSanghera Ji,[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=4][COLOR=blue]My effort was to just clarify the subject under discussion. i believe and practice: While we are traveling this shared journey, why not travel it well and be very clear about what we are doing and why. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=4][COLOR=blue]When i read your post;[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=4][COLOR=blue]“[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=blue][SIZE=4]Surrender to the will of Guru or God? I echo views of Max.... though for me it is more of an emotional expression of respect to my beloved Guru and thanking Guru for showing me the way to God.” [/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=blue][SIZE=4]i realized exactly what you were thinking and i knew you are simply not able to verbally accept what your inner voice is telling you. That’s why before saying anything i asked for your explanation. And i did not add anything new to it, just elaborated it.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=4][COLOR=blue]Mostly Sikhs are too shy to say that this Mathatakna represents our complete surrender of ego; as mostly it is not being done in practice at all. Mostly it is considered just an outward ritual. That is why it is being treated like idol worship. A lot of people even born in Sikh families are refraining themselves from going to Gurudwara Sahib because they think that Sikh Gurudwaras are now indulging in the idol worshipping. Singing and listening to Bani has become a means of mere sensory enjoyment for many Gurudwara goers.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=4][COLOR=blue]Worshipping an idol/object as opposed to God is what is not correct. When we talk about Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji we are not talking about an object/book/granth/pothi here; we are talking about complete consciousness (absolute knowledge). Dhan Dhan Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the embodiment of Divine Light not just for the Sikhs but also for all. This is Dhur Ki Bani. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=4][COLOR=blue]Read it, Learn it, Understand it and Live it……[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=4][COLOR=blue]Guru Bhala Karey[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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