Japji
Quote:
Pauri 1
1.Sochai soch na howee je sochi Iakhwar. Chupal chup na howee je lai rahan livetar. Bhukhian bhukh na utree je banna puria bhar. Sehas sianpa Iakh hoeh ta ek na chalay nal. Kiv sachiara hoiyai kiv kurai tutai pal. Hukam rajaee chalana Nanak Iikhya naL
I would like to expand a bit more on this. There have been a lot of different interpretations of this pauri by different sikh scholars which becomes a bit more confusing rather than putting a light of clarity on it.
Maskeen ji, Professor Sahib Singh ji and some others take SOCH as SuCH ( purifying by bathing in 'holy waters'. Bhai Manmohan singh ji, Yogi Bhajan, Rajneesh, Master Teja Singh and others take SOCH has THOUGHT PROCESS.
I tend to agree more with the formers than with the latters .
I would like to think aloud, if I may, with the SADH SANGAT regarding this.
There were 4 main schools of thought at the time of Guru Nanak.
1.Sochai soch na howee je sochi Iakhvaar.
a. Bathing in 'holy waters' to cleanse one's sins.
2.Chupei chup na howee je lai rahan livetar.
b.Mon Vrat- this school of thought insisited on not talking at all. (I wish my kids could learn that j/k.)
They failed to understand that one can not quieten the tempest within.
3. Bhukhian bhukh na utree jei bannah puria bhar.
c. One can try to quench one's hunger from all aspects, meaning food, lust etc etc. By doing so one hopefully will come to the conclusion of 'been there, done that' and will cease doing things impulsively.
However Master Teja Singh's interprets the above as fasting, that is restraint like #2 which seems repetitive.
4. Sehas sianpa Iakh hoeh ta ek na chalay nal.
d.Having a cunning nature is of no use. We call them 'confidence tricksters'.
However Master Teja Singh and many others have interpreted the above as:-
Thousands of 'intellectual flights' cannot take one to the Realm of Truth (True wisdom or realization of the Divine within).
I would like to expand on this a bit more.
Cunning nature needs thought process. One can not con anyone without planning for it. Hence being 'smarter and holier than thou' needs a lot of thinking which again becomes repetitve if we interpret the first verse SOCH as thought process rather than SuCH meaning to purify mainly by water.
One of the more important things to notice is that 'thought process' is a singular collective noun. One can think about the same many times but one can not have mutiple thought processes for the same, the way it is mentioned in the verse number one.
I have no idea why the sikh scholars take the word 'intellect' as MANMAT when they are using the same to understand GURBANI??!!
Intellect is used in many different ways in GURBANI.
In Japji we read, 'Gaviei, Suniey, munn rakhiey bhao'
In Anand we read, ' eh munn mereiyah, tun sadah roh HAR nalei'
In Rehras we read, 'tin kavan khalaavai kavan chugaavai munn mein simran kariyah.
And many more that talk about munn which requires intellect.
We all know Guru Nanak Dev ji and all other Gurus, the founders of this beautiful way of Gurmat life have always been precise -to the point- in whatever they wrote as Gurbani. They re-emphasised the same thought process by giving different examples but they never repeated themselves in the same verse.
My 2 cent worth.
Bhul Chuk Maaf.
Peace and Love
Tejwant
PS..I would like to know others' point of view on this as well.
Quote:
Pauri 1
1.Sochai soch na howee je sochi Iakhwar. Chupal chup na howee je lai rahan livetar. Bhukhian bhukh na utree je banna puria bhar. Sehas sianpa Iakh hoeh ta ek na chalay nal. Kiv sachiara hoiyai kiv kurai tutai pal. Hukam rajaee chalana Nanak Iikhya naL
I would like to expand a bit more on this. There have been a lot of different interpretations of this pauri by different sikh scholars which becomes a bit more confusing rather than putting a light of clarity on it.
Maskeen ji, Professor Sahib Singh ji and some others take SOCH as SuCH ( purifying by bathing in 'holy waters'. Bhai Manmohan singh ji, Yogi Bhajan, Rajneesh, Master Teja Singh and others take SOCH has THOUGHT PROCESS.
I tend to agree more with the formers than with the latters .
I would like to think aloud, if I may, with the SADH SANGAT regarding this.
There were 4 main schools of thought at the time of Guru Nanak.
1.Sochai soch na howee je sochi Iakhvaar.
a. Bathing in 'holy waters' to cleanse one's sins.
or
Thinking hundreds of times as many scholars have mentioned.
2.Chupei chup na howee je lai rahan livetar.
b.Mon Vrat- this school of thought insisited on not talking at all. (I wish my kids could learn that j/k.)
They failed to understand that one can not quieten the tempest within.
3. Bhukhian bhukh na utree jei bannah puria bhar.
c. One can try to quench one's hunger from all aspects, meaning food, lust etc etc. By doing so one hopefully will come to the conclusion of 'been there, done that' and will cease doing things impulsively.
However Master Teja Singh's interprets the above as fasting, that is restraint like #2 which seems repetitive.
4. Sehas sianpa Iakh hoeh ta ek na chalay nal.
d.Having a cunning nature is of no use. We call them 'confidence tricksters'.
However Master Teja Singh and many others have interpreted the above as:-
Thousands of 'intellectual flights' cannot take one to the Realm of Truth (True wisdom or realization of the Divine within).
I would like to expand on this a bit more.
Cunning nature needs thought process. One can not con anyone without planning for it. Hence being 'smarter and holier than thou' needs a lot of thinking which again becomes repetitve if we interpret the first verse SOCH as thought process rather than SuCH meaning to purify mainly by water.
One of the more important things to notice is that 'thought process' is a singular collective noun. One can think about the same many times but one can not have mutiple thought processes for the same, the way it is mentioned in the verse number one.
I have no idea why the sikh scholars take the word 'intellect' as MANMAT when they are using the same to understand GURBANI??!!
Intellect is used in many different ways in GURBANI.
In Japji we read, 'Gaviei, Suniey, munn rakhiey bhao'
In Anand we read, ' eh munn mereiyah, tun sadah roh HAR nalei'
In Rehras we read, 'tin kavan khalaavai kavan chugaavai munn mein simran kariyah.
And many more that talk about munn which requires intellect.
We all know Guru Nanak Dev ji and all other Gurus, the founders of this beautiful way of Gurmat life have always been precise -to the point- in whatever they wrote as Gurbani. They re-emphasised the same thought process by giving different examples but they never repeated themselves in the same verse.
My 2 cent worth.
Bhul Chuk Maaf.
Peace and Love
Tejwant
PS..I would like to know others' point of view on this as well.