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<blockquote data-quote="rajneesh madhok" data-source="post: 128927" data-attributes="member: 10692"><p>Honour Killing? Why? The murderers believe the victim has brought dishonour upon the family, clan, or community. </p><p> <strong><u>Now the question arise. </u></strong></p><p> </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Whether the defence of honour justifies killing a person whose behaviour dishonours their clan or family.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Whether the acts of violence, murder committed by family members against their children those have brought dishonour upon the family is justified?</li> </ul><p> <strong><u>Honour Suicides: </u></strong></p><p> <strong>1. </strong><strong>If honour killing is justified then Honour Suicides are also justified. Last year 80 Iraqi women in Diyala province committed suicide, to escape the shame of having been raped. ----- They chose to become suicide bombers to escape the shame, their rapes were planned in advance by 51 year old Iraqi women Samira Jassim, who confessed to Iraqi police that she oraganized their rapes so she could later persuade each of them to become a suicide bomber to escape their shame. </strong></p><p> <strong><u>Point of consideration: </u></strong></p><p> <strong>1. If the couple has the knowledge that they will be brutally murdered by family members on indulging in love affairs and marriage. What will be outcome of this trend. Whether the society is protecting their girls and women or they are giving birth to a new problem. </strong></p><p> <strong>2. </strong><strong>The main cause of spreading of terrorism is unlawful society. </strong></p><p> <strong><u>Opinion:</u></strong></p><p> I agree to the point that the boundaries of society should not be crossed but the killing is not the solution to the problem. There are hundreds of cases annually in Pakistan. Where the couple don’t get away without being punished---The courts sanction them under religious contexts. </p><p> </p><p> <strong>KARO-KARI: PAKISTAN</strong></p><p></p><p> </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Honour killing is known locally in Pakistan as Karo-Kari. In Pakistan three girls were buried alive last year for refusing arranged marriages. In Pakistan the Honour killing gets high level support, despite the Human Rights organizations condemn such incidents worldwide. </strong></li> </ul> </li> </ul><p> <strong><u>INDIA:</u></strong></p><p> <strong><u>In </u>India honour killing is in tradition in Punjba, Rajasthan, Haryana and Bihar. More than 90% cases of Honour killings are reported in these states. Honour killings are rare in South India, and the western Indian states of Maharshtra and Gujarat. <u>Kindly note ther is no honour killings in West Bengal in over 100 years. </u></strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong><u>Solution to the problem: </u></strong></p><p> 1. The reformists should come forward and should play active role and influence the young generation and the society and guide the society with their teachings that the killing is not the solution to the problem. </p><p> <strong>2. </strong><strong><u>National </u>Commission for women should address the issues in North India. The constitutional, legal and other provisions as well as challeges women face should be highlighted. </strong></p><p> </p><p> Kanwardeepji,</p><p> <strong>1. </strong>I come to point as per your post. Whether the killing justified by the victim’s relatives is justified. </p><p> <strong>2. </strong>Is Mr. Dharmveer Nagar’s statement on the basis of society is justified?</p><p> <strong>3. </strong>If we shall not remorse on our bad deeds and there is no fear of law then whether we our coming generations will get justice.</p><p> <strong>4. </strong>Why the sanctions on murders have been given by the society members?</p><p> <strong>5. </strong>Why the people are silently supporting those have murdered Monica, Kuldeep and Shoba?</p><p> <strong>6. </strong>Supposing that we don’t accept the relations As most of the community people justifies the murder But the question is that whether murder is the solution to the problem.</p><p> <strong>7. </strong>If the children dared to defy the family customs then the only solution to it is to get them murdered and the society will support that crime. </p><p> <strong>8. </strong>Suppose we don’t accept that the children should marry outside one’s caste. The Casteism has been abolished by our Gurus, teachers. How we developed this mindset. Why the mindset has been passed on the young generation only. There are so many ways to persuade the young generation not to indulge in such type of practices even then the murder as punishment is not the solution to the problem. </p><p> <strong>9. </strong>Whether the statement of Charan Singh “I will kill my children if they marry defy me and marry within the village community”---Is it justified. </p><p> <strong>10. </strong>Do the friends support this misplaced sense of honour. </p><p> <strong>11. </strong>Why the question of elopement arise. </p><p> </p><p> Whether the mindset that places honour before life is not frightening and unjustified? Kindly comment. </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Rajneesh Madhok</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rajneesh madhok, post: 128927, member: 10692"] Honour Killing? Why? The murderers believe the victim has brought dishonour upon the family, clan, or community. [B][U]Now the question arise. [/U][/B] [LIST] [*]Whether the defence of honour justifies killing a person whose behaviour dishonours their clan or family. [*]Whether the acts of violence, murder committed by family members against their children those have brought dishonour upon the family is justified? [/LIST] [B][U]Honour Suicides: [/U][/B] [B]1. [/B][B]If honour killing is justified then Honour Suicides are also justified. Last year 80 Iraqi women in Diyala province committed suicide, to escape the shame of having been raped. ----- They chose to become suicide bombers to escape the shame, their rapes were planned in advance by 51 year old Iraqi women Samira Jassim, who confessed to Iraqi police that she oraganized their rapes so she could later persuade each of them to become a suicide bomber to escape their shame. [/B] [B][U]Point of consideration: [/U][/B] [B]1. If the couple has the knowledge that they will be brutally murdered by family members on indulging in love affairs and marriage. What will be outcome of this trend. Whether the society is protecting their girls and women or they are giving birth to a new problem. [/B] [B]2. [/B][B]The main cause of spreading of terrorism is unlawful society. [/B] [B][U]Opinion:[/U][/B] I agree to the point that the boundaries of society should not be crossed but the killing is not the solution to the problem. There are hundreds of cases annually in Pakistan. Where the couple don’t get away without being punished---The courts sanction them under religious contexts. [B]KARO-KARI: PAKISTAN[/B] [LIST] [*] [LIST] [*][B]Honour killing is known locally in Pakistan as Karo-Kari. In Pakistan three girls were buried alive last year for refusing arranged marriages. In Pakistan the Honour killing gets high level support, despite the Human Rights organizations condemn such incidents worldwide. [/B] [/LIST] [/LIST] [B][U]INDIA:[/U][/B] [B][U]In [/U]India honour killing is in tradition in Punjba, Rajasthan, Haryana and Bihar. More than 90% cases of Honour killings are reported in these states. Honour killings are rare in South India, and the western Indian states of Maharshtra and Gujarat. [U]Kindly note ther is no honour killings in West Bengal in over 100 years. [/U][/B] [B][U]Solution to the problem: [/U][/B] 1. The reformists should come forward and should play active role and influence the young generation and the society and guide the society with their teachings that the killing is not the solution to the problem. [B]2. [/B][B][U]National [/U]Commission for women should address the issues in North India. The constitutional, legal and other provisions as well as challeges women face should be highlighted. [/B] Kanwardeepji, [B]1. [/B]I come to point as per your post. Whether the killing justified by the victim’s relatives is justified. [B]2. [/B]Is Mr. Dharmveer Nagar’s statement on the basis of society is justified? [B]3. [/B]If we shall not remorse on our bad deeds and there is no fear of law then whether we our coming generations will get justice. [B]4. [/B]Why the sanctions on murders have been given by the society members? [B]5. [/B]Why the people are silently supporting those have murdered Monica, Kuldeep and Shoba? [B]6. [/B]Supposing that we don’t accept the relations As most of the community people justifies the murder But the question is that whether murder is the solution to the problem. [B]7. [/B]If the children dared to defy the family customs then the only solution to it is to get them murdered and the society will support that crime. [B]8. [/B]Suppose we don’t accept that the children should marry outside one’s caste. The Casteism has been abolished by our Gurus, teachers. How we developed this mindset. Why the mindset has been passed on the young generation only. There are so many ways to persuade the young generation not to indulge in such type of practices even then the murder as punishment is not the solution to the problem. [B]9. [/B]Whether the statement of Charan Singh “I will kill my children if they marry defy me and marry within the village community”---Is it justified. [B]10. [/B]Do the friends support this misplaced sense of honour. [B]11. [/B]Why the question of elopement arise. Whether the mindset that places honour before life is not frightening and unjustified? Kindly comment. [B]Rajneesh Madhok[/B] [/QUOTE]
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