☀️ JOIN SPN MOBILE
Forums
New posts
Guru Granth Sahib
Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
New resources
Latest activity
Videos
New media
New comments
Library
Latest reviews
Donate
Log in
Register
What's new
New posts
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Welcome to all New Sikh Philosophy Network Forums!
Explore Sikh Sikhi Sikhism...
Sign up
Log in
Discussions
Sikh Sikhi Sikhism
Is Bisan Of Guru Gobind Singh Jee And Kabeer Jee Different?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Archived_member2" data-source="post: 76552" data-attributes="member: 259"><p>Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!</p><p>Dear all!</p><p></p><p>Aad0002 Jee asked three questions. The first one has four sub-questions. These are "So would you be specific? Are you using the exact reference Kishan=Krishna and Bisan = Vishnu? Or are you thinking of them differently? If differently, what meaning are you using?"</p><p>Every time I use the word 'Aad0002', I would intend to express the same person. I would specify it further if I explain one to recognize 'Aad0002' with her activity or an attribute.</p><p>The reverend Gurus have used many words like Kisan, Bisan, Brahma, Mahays, Raam in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. They are singing every time about the same Godly Attribute.</p><p>These are the lost Baabaas and preachers who add adjectives to God's Activities that the true Gurus never mentioned.</p><p>It is interesting that these Baabaas and preachers are enjoying the cake donated and baked by the simple heart Sikhs. They receive Saropaas and titles for changing Guru's Baanee and misleading people.</p><p></p><p>According to Gurbaanee, Kisan is Kisan and Bisan is Bisan. Have any of your Baabaas, translators or preachers ever tried to understand and explain it to Seekers?</p><p></p><p>Quote "What are you saying by this sentence Many people seek God's Darshan as Kishan or Bishan."</p><p>God's Nirgun Saroop is unknown to a Jeev. The Jeev does not know any way to transcend his mind to realize Him. God's Sarguna Saroop is present all around. The spiritual journey begins with Lord's Sarguna Saroop. Darshan of Kisan, Bisan is recognizing God's Sarguna Saroop on His Way.</p><p>The reverend Gurus have also reported their existence mentioning them. Please do not trust a Baabaa who tries to convince Sikhs that The Gurus are singing about Kisan, Bisan without having their Darshan.</p><p></p><p>Quote "Why did you compare a bani of Sri Gobind Singh with the bani of Kabeer only? There are numerous references to Bisan (Vishnu) by Gurus in Sri Guru Granth Sahib. Why then Kabeer? Any special reason?"</p><p>Those who come to know Bisan they have nothing to compare any more with Bisan.</p><p>Only ignorant do need to compare.</p><p></p><p>**************</p><p></p><p>Jasleen Kaur Jee!</p><p></p><p>In my understanding, Gurdev is singing the Vaak explaining.</p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: DarkOrange">ਮੈ ਨ ਗਨੇਸ਼ਹਿ ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮ ਮਨਾਊਂ ॥ ਕਿਸ਼ਨ ਬਿਸ਼ਨ ਕਬਹੂੰ ਨਹ ਧਿਆਊਂ ॥ਕਾਨ ਸੁਨੇ ਪਹਿਚਾਨ ਨ ਤਿਨ ਸੋਂ ॥ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਗੀ ਮੋਰੀ ਪਗ ਇਨ ਸੋਂ ॥੪੩੪॥</span></span></p><p>I do not persuade Ganesha first. I never meditate Kishan, Bishan. Ears listen but have no cognition. My consciousness is devoted at their feet.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Balbir Singh</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archived_member2, post: 76552, member: 259"] Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal! Dear all! Aad0002 Jee asked three questions. The first one has four sub-questions. These are "So would you be specific? Are you using the exact reference Kishan=Krishna and Bisan = Vishnu? Or are you thinking of them differently? If differently, what meaning are you using?" Every time I use the word 'Aad0002', I would intend to express the same person. I would specify it further if I explain one to recognize 'Aad0002' with her activity or an attribute. The reverend Gurus have used many words like Kisan, Bisan, Brahma, Mahays, Raam in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. They are singing every time about the same Godly Attribute. These are the lost Baabaas and preachers who add adjectives to God's Activities that the true Gurus never mentioned. It is interesting that these Baabaas and preachers are enjoying the cake donated and baked by the simple heart Sikhs. They receive Saropaas and titles for changing Guru's Baanee and misleading people. According to Gurbaanee, Kisan is Kisan and Bisan is Bisan. Have any of your Baabaas, translators or preachers ever tried to understand and explain it to Seekers? Quote "What are you saying by this sentence Many people seek God's Darshan as Kishan or Bishan." God's Nirgun Saroop is unknown to a Jeev. The Jeev does not know any way to transcend his mind to realize Him. God's Sarguna Saroop is present all around. The spiritual journey begins with Lord's Sarguna Saroop. Darshan of Kisan, Bisan is recognizing God's Sarguna Saroop on His Way. The reverend Gurus have also reported their existence mentioning them. Please do not trust a Baabaa who tries to convince Sikhs that The Gurus are singing about Kisan, Bisan without having their Darshan. Quote "Why did you compare a bani of Sri Gobind Singh with the bani of Kabeer only? There are numerous references to Bisan (Vishnu) by Gurus in Sri Guru Granth Sahib. Why then Kabeer? Any special reason?" Those who come to know Bisan they have nothing to compare any more with Bisan. Only ignorant do need to compare. ************** Jasleen Kaur Jee! In my understanding, Gurdev is singing the Vaak explaining. [SIZE="3"][COLOR="DarkOrange"]ਮੈ ਨ ਗਨੇਸ਼ਹਿ ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮ ਮਨਾਊਂ ॥ ਕਿਸ਼ਨ ਬਿਸ਼ਨ ਕਬਹੂੰ ਨਹ ਧਿਆਊਂ ॥ਕਾਨ ਸੁਨੇ ਪਹਿਚਾਨ ਨ ਤਿਨ ਸੋਂ ॥ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਗੀ ਮੋਰੀ ਪਗ ਇਨ ਸੋਂ ॥੪੩੪॥[/COLOR][/SIZE] I do not persuade Ganesha first. I never meditate Kishan, Bishan. Ears listen but have no cognition. My consciousness is devoted at their feet. Balbir Singh [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Discussions
Sikh Sikhi Sikhism
Is Bisan Of Guru Gobind Singh Jee And Kabeer Jee Different?
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
Accept
Learn more…
Top