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ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
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Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Astroboy" data-source="post: 61028" data-attributes="member: 4990"><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Here are a few quotes from SGGS regarding astrologers:-</span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">After all their reading, the</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Pandits, the religious scholars, and the <strong>astrologers</strong> argue and debate. Their intellect and understanding are *******ed; they just</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">don.t understand. They are filled with greed and corruption. Through 8.4 million incarnations they wander lost and confused;</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">through all their wandering and roaming, they are ruined. They act according to their pre-ordained destiny, which no one can</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">erase. || 3 || (SGGS 27)</span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">There are so many Pandits and</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'">astrologers</span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"> who ponder over the Vedas. They glorify their disputes and arguments, and in these controversies they continue</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">coming and going. Without the Guru, they are not released from their karma, although they speak and listen and preach and</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">explain. || 7 | (SGGS 56)</span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Nanak, through the Naam, greatness is obtained; through the Word of the</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Guru.s Shabad, He is realized. || 8 || 5 || 22 || SIREE RAAG, THIRD MEHL: Everyone longs to be centered and balanced,</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">but without the Guru, no one can. The Pandits and the astrologers read and read until they grow weary, while the fanatics are</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">deluded by doubt. Meeting with the Guru, intuitive balance is obtained, when God, in His Will, grants His Grace. || 1 || O</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Siblings of Destiny, without the Guru, intuitive balance is not obtained. Through the Word of the Shabad, intuitive peace and</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">poise wells up, and that True Lord is obtained. || 1 || Pause || SGGS 68)</span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The Pandits, the</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">religious scholars, the teachers and astrologers, and those who endlessly read the Puraanas, do not know what is within; God</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">is hidden deep within them. || 4 || Some penitents perform penance in the forests, and some dwell forever at sacred shrines.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The unenlightened people do not understand themselves . why have they become renunciates? || 5 || Some control their</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">sexual energy, and are known as celibates. But without the Guru.s Word, they are not saved, and they wander in</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">reincarnation. || 6 || (SGGS 419)</span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">All the religious scholars and astrologers read and study, and argue and shout. Who are they trying to teach? Deep within, they</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">are stained with the filth of emotional attachment to Maya; they deal in Maya alone. They love to deal in Maya in this world;</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">coming and going, they suffer in pain. The worm of poison is addicted to poison; it is immersed in manure. He does what is</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">pre-ordained for him; no one can erase his destiny. O Nanak, attuned to the Naam, lasting peace is found; the ignorant fools</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">die screaming. || 3 || (SGGS 571)</span></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahona'"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">There are more verses available. </span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Astroboy, post: 61028, member: 4990"] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Here are a few quotes from SGGS regarding astrologers:-[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]After all their reading, the[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Pandits, the religious scholars, and the [B]astrologers[/B] argue and debate. Their intellect and understanding are *******ed; they just[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]don.t understand. They are filled with greed and corruption. Through 8.4 million incarnations they wander lost and confused;[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]through all their wandering and roaming, they are ruined. They act according to their pre-ordained destiny, which no one can[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]erase. || 3 || (SGGS 27)[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]There are so many Pandits and[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][B][FONT=Tahona]astrologers[/FONT][/B][FONT=Tahona] who ponder over the Vedas. They glorify their disputes and arguments, and in these controversies they continue[/FONT][/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]coming and going. Without the Guru, they are not released from their karma, although they speak and listen and preach and[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]explain. || 7 | (SGGS 56)[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Nanak, through the Naam, greatness is obtained; through the Word of the[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Guru.s Shabad, He is realized. || 8 || 5 || 22 || SIREE RAAG, THIRD MEHL: Everyone longs to be centered and balanced,[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]but without the Guru, no one can. The Pandits and the astrologers read and read until they grow weary, while the fanatics are[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]deluded by doubt. Meeting with the Guru, intuitive balance is obtained, when God, in His Will, grants His Grace. || 1 || O[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Siblings of Destiny, without the Guru, intuitive balance is not obtained. Through the Word of the Shabad, intuitive peace and[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]poise wells up, and that True Lord is obtained. || 1 || Pause || SGGS 68)[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The Pandits, the[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]religious scholars, the teachers and astrologers, and those who endlessly read the Puraanas, do not know what is within; God[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]is hidden deep within them. || 4 || Some penitents perform penance in the forests, and some dwell forever at sacred shrines.[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The unenlightened people do not understand themselves . why have they become renunciates? || 5 || Some control their[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]sexual energy, and are known as celibates. But without the Guru.s Word, they are not saved, and they wander in[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]reincarnation. || 6 || (SGGS 419)[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]All the religious scholars and astrologers read and study, and argue and shout. Who are they trying to teach? Deep within, they[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]are stained with the filth of emotional attachment to Maya; they deal in Maya alone. They love to deal in Maya in this world;[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]coming and going, they suffer in pain. The worm of poison is addicted to poison; it is immersed in manure. He does what is[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]pre-ordained for him; no one can erase his destiny. O Nanak, attuned to the Naam, lasting peace is found; the ignorant fools[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]die screaming. || 3 || (SGGS 571)[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Tahona][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]There are more verses available. [/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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