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Gurbani (14-53)
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Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
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Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
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Gurbani (527-536)
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Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
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Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
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Gurbani (721-727)
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Gurbani (728-750)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
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Chhant (843-848)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
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Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
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Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
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Gurbani (1294-96)
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Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
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Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
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Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
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Gurmat Vichaar
Gurmat Vichar - Discussions
Guru And God No Difference
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<blockquote data-quote="AmbarDhara" data-source="post: 73955" data-attributes="member: 5661"><p>Caroline Ji,</p><p> </p><p>People have made several thousand defintions of Sikh Religion. We are not talking about scholarly evaluations of some type. We are talking Guru's Word. </p><p> </p><p>This is Gurmat Section. And I suppose we should talk about Gurmat(SGGS Ji) here.</p><p> </p><p>In Guru Granth Sahib Ji, there are hundreds of references where it is told the there is no difference what so ever. There is no SECOND. Svea Ji gave such a beautiful reference post # 286.</p><p>Guru and God and a saint/brahmgyani/God realized cant be distinguished. Distinguishing them (calling them two seperate entities) is practicing DUALITY.</p><p> </p><p>A very simple one in Assa Di Vaar:</p><p> </p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #ff00ff">Nanak Bani Nirankaar Paarbrahm Parmesar</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #ff00ff">Waho Waho Bani Nirankaar Hai Tis Jevad Avar Na Koi</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: fuchsia"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">ANG 474</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: fuchsia"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">SGGS JI</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: fuchsia"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">SATGURU PRASAAD</span></span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">ਵਸਤੂ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਵਸਤੁ ਸਮਾਵੈ ਦੂਜੀ ਹੋਵੈ ਪਾਸਿ ॥</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">vasathoo andhar vasath samaavai dhoojee hovai paas ||</span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: purple">One thing can be absorbed into another thing, but duality keeps them apart.</span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #ff00ff">Gurbani eis jag meh chaanan</span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #ff00ff">Gurbani har alakh lakhiayaa</span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: fuchsia"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">Gurbani Gavo Bhaee</span></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: center"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: fuchsia"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">charan kamal para<u>bh</u> kay ni<u>t</u> <u>Dh</u>i-aava-o</span></span></span></span></span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: black">In this entire thread there had been several times references had been mensioned about this Truth.</span></span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 12px">You can believe wahtever you want to, but Gurmat says very clearly:</span></p><p></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 12px">There cant be any distinction.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AmbarDhara, post: 73955, member: 5661"] Caroline Ji, People have made several thousand defintions of Sikh Religion. We are not talking about scholarly evaluations of some type. We are talking Guru's Word. This is Gurmat Section. And I suppose we should talk about Gurmat(SGGS Ji) here. In Guru Granth Sahib Ji, there are hundreds of references where it is told the there is no difference what so ever. There is no SECOND. Svea Ji gave such a beautiful reference post # 286. Guru and God and a saint/brahmgyani/God realized cant be distinguished. Distinguishing them (calling them two seperate entities) is practicing DUALITY. A very simple one in Assa Di Vaar: [CENTER][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#ff00ff]Nanak Bani Nirankaar Paarbrahm Parmesar[/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#ff00ff]Waho Waho Bani Nirankaar Hai Tis Jevad Avar Na Koi[/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=fuchsia][FONT=Tahoma]ANG 474[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=fuchsia][FONT=Tahoma]SGGS JI[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=fuchsia][FONT=Tahoma]SATGURU PRASAAD[/FONT][/COLOR][/CENTER] [CENTER][COLOR=purple]ਵਸਤੂ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਵਸਤੁ ਸਮਾਵੈ ਦੂਜੀ ਹੋਵੈ ਪਾਸਿ ॥[/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]vasathoo andhar vasath samaavai dhoojee hovai paas ||[/COLOR] [COLOR=purple]One thing can be absorbed into another thing, but duality keeps them apart.[/COLOR][/CENTER] [CENTER][SIZE=3][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000080][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#ff00ff]Gurbani eis jag meh chaanan[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000080][SIZE=3][FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#ff00ff]Gurbani har alakh lakhiayaa[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000080][SIZE=3][COLOR=fuchsia][FONT=Tahoma]Gurbani Gavo Bhaee[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#000080][SIZE=3][COLOR=fuchsia][FONT=Tahoma]charan kamal para[U]bh[/U] kay ni[U]t[/U] [U]Dh[/U]i-aava-o[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT][/CENTER] [LEFT][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]In this entire thread there had been several times references had been mensioned about this Truth.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3]You can believe wahtever you want to, but Gurmat says very clearly:[/SIZE][/LEFT] [LEFT][SIZE=3]There cant be any distinction.[/SIZE][/LEFT] [/QUOTE]
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