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<blockquote data-quote="vikram9274" data-source="post: 116580" data-attributes="member: 10279"><p>RAGI REJECTS NITNEM AND AMRIT SANCHAR BANEES & ARDAAS</p><p> PANTHIC.ORG</p><p> Published on December 1, 2009</p><p> </p><p> Sri Amritsar Sahib - After the heretic Darshan Singh was summoned to Sri Akal Takht Sahib, further audio and video evidence has surfaced corroborating the complaints filed by Panthic organizations that the Ragi has been openly attacking fundamental Sikh concepts and practices such as the sacred Nitnem, Amrit Sanchar ceremony, and the Sikh Ardaas.</p><p> Panthic organizations have requested the Apex Sikh Takht to take strict action against the blasphemous ragi for violating Panthic edicts, challenging age-old Panthic traditions, and hurting Sikh sentiments. The Ragi has been ordered to appear at Sri Akal Takht Sahib at noontime on December 5th, 2009.</p><p> For the benefit of Panthic.org readers, below are a small collection of audio and video clips evidencing the Ragi’s offensive remarks.</p><p> </p><p> <object data="http://www.youtube.com/v/pQWKxDZ3m8M&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" height="344" width="425"> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </object> </p> <p style="text-align: center"><em><span style="color: #0000FF">"ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ…ਜਦੋਂ… ਨਿਤਨੇਮ ਦੀਆਂ ਕੁਝ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੀਆਂ ਰਚਨਾਵਾਂ ਜਿਹੜੀਆਂ ਨਿਤਨੇਮ ਵਿੱਚ ਸ਼ਾਮਿਲ ਕੀਤੀਆਂ ਗਈਆਂ ਉਹ ਰਵਨਾਵਾਂ ਉਹ ਵੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੇ ਵਕਤ…ਨਹੀਂ, ਮੈ ਇਹ ਗੱਲ ਸਪਸ਼ਟ ਕਰ ਦਿਆਂ – ਗੁਰੂ ਦਸਮ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹ ਦੀਆਂ ਰਚਨਾਵਾਂ ਨਿਤਨੇਮ ਦਾ ਅੱਜ ਜਿਹੜਾ ਅੱਜ ਰੂਪ ਅਸੀਂ ਵੇਖਦੇ ਹਾਂ ਇਹ ਗੁਰੂ ਦਸਮ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹ ਦੇ ਵਕਤ ਦੇ ਫ਼ੈਸਲੇ ਨਹੀਂ" </span></em></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em><span style="color: #0000FF"></span></em>- Ragi Darshan Singh </p> <p style="text-align: center"></p> <p style="text-align: center"></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The true motives of the Ragi and his avid supporters, the Spokesman-Kala-Afghani combine, are rapidly becoming clear. Their goal seems to be the open invalidation of the Khalsa identity and culture. This is being done by repeatedly rejecting the sacred Khanday-ki-Pahul ceremony, the five kakkars and the concept of the Panth Piaray by simply labeling them as Brahman or RSS baggage.</p><p> Below is an excerpt of an article written by a pro-KalaAfghani naastic that was recently published on their naastic mouthpiece "Sikh Marg." It sums up the true intentions of the Ragi and his cohorts:</p><p style="text-align: center"><em><span style="color: #800000">"ਅਸੀਂ ਹੁਣ ਪੂਰਨ ਵਿਸ਼ਵਾਸ਼ ਨਾਲ ਕਹ ਸਕਦੇ ਹਾਂ ਕਿ ਸਾਡੇ ਸਚੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਨੇ ਪਹਿਲੀਆਂ ਨੋਂ ਪਾਤਸ਼ਾਹੀਆਂ ਤੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੁੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੇ ਹੁਕਮਾਂ ਵਿਰੁਧ ਕੋਈ ਨਵੀਂ ਰਹਿਤ ਮਰਯਾਦਾ ਨਹੀਂ ਬਨਾਈ।</span></em></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em><span style="color: #800000"></span></em></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em><span style="color: #800000"></span><span style="color: #800000">ਖੰਡੇ ਦੀ ਪਹੁਲ, ਕਕਾਰ, ਪੰਜ ਪਿਆਰੇ, ਇਹਨਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਗੁਰੂ ਰੂਪ ਜਾਨ ਕੇ ਪੂਜਨਾਂ ਇਹਨਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਮਥੇ ਟੇਕਨਾਂ ਤੇ ਇਹਨਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਬਸਤਰ ਅਸਤਰ ਦੇ ਨਿਵਾਜਨਾਂ ਇਸ ਝੂਠੇ ਬ੍ਰਾਹਮਨੀ ਇਤਹਾਸ ਦੀ ਦੇਨ ਹੈ। ਇਹ ਸਭ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਵਿਰੁਧ ਕਮ ਅਜ ਸਿਖ ਕਰ ਰਹੇ ਹਨ। ਕੀ ਇਸ ਕੂੜੇ ਇਤਿਹਾਸ ਦੀ ਅਸਲ਼ੀਅਤ ਨੂੰ ਗੁਰਸਿਖ ਸਮਝਨਗੇ?"</span></em></p> <p style="text-align: center"><em><span style="color: #800000"></span>- Dr. Gurmukh Singh, Delhi (SikhMarg) </em></p><p>The Sikh community needs to be vigilant against continuous onslaught on the sacred Sikh traditions, and reject the message being spread by the heretical Ragi and his band of atheist riffraffs.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>here is the complete link- <a href="http://www.panthic.org/articles/5177" target="_blank">Panthic.org</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have heard that Ragi has said that all these cd's and audio tapes are doctored and edited and that he has originals. What if his tapes are edited and these are originals? I think they should be tested by professionals to see if they have been doctored (whether the Ragis are "originals" or Lambas "doctored" are truly edited). This would a big offense since it will an open attempt to mislead the Akal Takhat, whether committed by ragi or lamba.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vikram9274, post: 116580, member: 10279"] RAGI REJECTS NITNEM AND AMRIT SANCHAR BANEES & ARDAAS PANTHIC.ORG Published on December 1, 2009 Sri Amritsar Sahib - After the heretic Darshan Singh was summoned to Sri Akal Takht Sahib, further audio and video evidence has surfaced corroborating the complaints filed by Panthic organizations that the Ragi has been openly attacking fundamental Sikh concepts and practices such as the sacred Nitnem, Amrit Sanchar ceremony, and the Sikh Ardaas. Panthic organizations have requested the Apex Sikh Takht to take strict action against the blasphemous ragi for violating Panthic edicts, challenging age-old Panthic traditions, and hurting Sikh sentiments. The Ragi has been ordered to appear at Sri Akal Takht Sahib at noontime on December 5th, 2009. For the benefit of Panthic.org readers, below are a small collection of audio and video clips evidencing the Ragi’s offensive remarks. <object data="http://www.youtube.com/v/pQWKxDZ3m8M&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" height="344" width="425"> </object> </p> [CENTER][I][COLOR=#0000FF]"ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ…ਜਦੋਂ… ਨਿਤਨੇਮ ਦੀਆਂ ਕੁਝ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੀਆਂ ਰਚਨਾਵਾਂ ਜਿਹੜੀਆਂ ਨਿਤਨੇਮ ਵਿੱਚ ਸ਼ਾਮਿਲ ਕੀਤੀਆਂ ਗਈਆਂ ਉਹ ਰਵਨਾਵਾਂ ਉਹ ਵੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੇ ਵਕਤ…ਨਹੀਂ, ਮੈ ਇਹ ਗੱਲ ਸਪਸ਼ਟ ਕਰ ਦਿਆਂ – ਗੁਰੂ ਦਸਮ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹ ਦੀਆਂ ਰਚਨਾਵਾਂ ਨਿਤਨੇਮ ਦਾ ਅੱਜ ਜਿਹੜਾ ਅੱਜ ਰੂਪ ਅਸੀਂ ਵੇਖਦੇ ਹਾਂ ਇਹ ਗੁਰੂ ਦਸਮ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹ ਦੇ ਵਕਤ ਦੇ ਫ਼ੈਸਲੇ ਨਹੀਂ" [/COLOR][/I]- Ragi Darshan Singh [/CENTER] The true motives of the Ragi and his avid supporters, the Spokesman-Kala-Afghani combine, are rapidly becoming clear. Their goal seems to be the open invalidation of the Khalsa identity and culture. This is being done by repeatedly rejecting the sacred Khanday-ki-Pahul ceremony, the five kakkars and the concept of the Panth Piaray by simply labeling them as Brahman or RSS baggage. Below is an excerpt of an article written by a pro-KalaAfghani naastic that was recently published on their naastic mouthpiece "Sikh Marg." It sums up the true intentions of the Ragi and his cohorts: [CENTER][I][COLOR=#800000]"ਅਸੀਂ ਹੁਣ ਪੂਰਨ ਵਿਸ਼ਵਾਸ਼ ਨਾਲ ਕਹ ਸਕਦੇ ਹਾਂ ਕਿ ਸਾਡੇ ਸਚੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਨੇ ਪਹਿਲੀਆਂ ਨੋਂ ਪਾਤਸ਼ਾਹੀਆਂ ਤੇ ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੁੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਦੇ ਹੁਕਮਾਂ ਵਿਰੁਧ ਕੋਈ ਨਵੀਂ ਰਹਿਤ ਮਰਯਾਦਾ ਨਹੀਂ ਬਨਾਈ। [/COLOR][COLOR=#800000]ਖੰਡੇ ਦੀ ਪਹੁਲ, ਕਕਾਰ, ਪੰਜ ਪਿਆਰੇ, ਇਹਨਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਗੁਰੂ ਰੂਪ ਜਾਨ ਕੇ ਪੂਜਨਾਂ ਇਹਨਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਮਥੇ ਟੇਕਨਾਂ ਤੇ ਇਹਨਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਬਸਤਰ ਅਸਤਰ ਦੇ ਨਿਵਾਜਨਾਂ ਇਸ ਝੂਠੇ ਬ੍ਰਾਹਮਨੀ ਇਤਹਾਸ ਦੀ ਦੇਨ ਹੈ। ਇਹ ਸਭ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਵਿਰੁਧ ਕਮ ਅਜ ਸਿਖ ਕਰ ਰਹੇ ਹਨ। ਕੀ ਇਸ ਕੂੜੇ ਇਤਿਹਾਸ ਦੀ ਅਸਲ਼ੀਅਤ ਨੂੰ ਗੁਰਸਿਖ ਸਮਝਨਗੇ?" [/COLOR]- Dr. Gurmukh Singh, Delhi (SikhMarg) [/I][/CENTER] The Sikh community needs to be vigilant against continuous onslaught on the sacred Sikh traditions, and reject the message being spread by the heretical Ragi and his band of atheist riffraffs. here is the complete link- [url=http://www.panthic.org/articles/5177]Panthic.org[/url] I have heard that Ragi has said that all these cd's and audio tapes are doctored and edited and that he has originals. What if his tapes are edited and these are originals? I think they should be tested by professionals to see if they have been doctored (whether the Ragis are "originals" or Lambas "doctored" are truly edited). This would a big offense since it will an open attempt to mislead the Akal Takhat, whether committed by ragi or lamba. [/QUOTE]
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