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<blockquote data-quote="Ishna" data-source="post: 169104" data-attributes="member: 2709"><p>What is fate?</p><p></p><p>What is destiny?</p><p></p><p>What is pre-ordained?</p><p></p><p>What is meant by references in Gurbani to things being written in our destiny?</p><p></p><p>Example:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #800000"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਭੁਗਤਿ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਗਿਆਨੁ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86" target="_blank">ਦਇਆ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A1%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਭੰਡਾਰਣਿ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਘਟਿ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਘਟਿ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਵਾਜਹਿ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A6" target="_blank">ਨਾਦ </a> ॥</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px">Bẖugaṯ gi▫ān ḏa▫i▫ā bẖandāraṇ gẖat gẖat vājėh nāḏ.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #000080">Let spiritual wisdom be your food, and compassion your attendant. The Sound-current of the Naad vibrates in each and every heart.</span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #800000"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਆਪਿ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A5%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਨਾਥੁ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A5%E0%A9%80" target="_blank">ਨਾਥੀ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AD" target="_blank">ਸਭ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਜਾ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%80" target="_blank">ਕੀ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਰਿਧਿ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਸਿਧਿ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank">ਅਵਰਾ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A6" target="_blank">ਸਾਦ </a> ॥</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px">Āp nāth nāthī sabẖ jā kī riḏẖ siḏẖ avrā sāḏ.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #000080">He Himself is the Supreme Master of all; wealth and miraculous spiritual powers, and all other external tastes and pleasures, are all like beads on a string.</span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #800000"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਸੰਜੋਗੁ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਵਿਜੋਗੁ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%87" target="_blank">ਦੁਇ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank">ਕਾਰ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਚਲਾਵਹਿ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%87" target="_blank">ਲੇਖੇ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਆਵਹਿ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97" target="_blank">ਭਾਗ </a> ॥</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px">Sanjog vijog ḏu▫e kār cẖalāvėh lekẖe āvahi bẖāg.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><strong><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #000080">Union with Him, and separation from Him, come by His Will. We come to receive what is written in our destiny.</span></span></strong></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #800000"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਆਦੇਸੁ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%88" target="_blank">ਤਿਸੈ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਆਦੇਸੁ </a> ॥</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px">Āḏes ṯisai āḏes.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #000080">I bow to Him, I humbly bow.</span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-family: 'AnmolUniPr'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #800000"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਆਦਿ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਅਨੀਲੁ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਅਨਾਦਿ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank">ਅਨਾਹਤਿ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਜੁਗੁ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਜੁਗੁ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank">ਏਕੋ </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81" target="_blank">ਵੇਸੁ </a> ॥੨੯॥</span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px">Āḏ anīl anāḏ anāhaṯ jug jug eko ves. ||29||</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #000080">The Primal One, the Pure Light, without beginning, without end. Throughout all the ages, He is One and the Same. ||29||<span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="color: #000080"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p>I am curious of the sangat's understanding as I have none of my own and recent discussion about hukam has got me wondering where these concepts fit in Sikhi.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ishna, post: 169104, member: 2709"] What is fate? What is destiny? What is pre-ordained? What is meant by references in Gurbani to things being written in our destiny? Example: [INDENT][FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=2][COLOR=#800000][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF"]ਭੁਗਤਿ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%81"]ਗਿਆਨੁ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%86"]ਦਇਆ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A1%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BF"]ਭੰਡਾਰਣਿ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%BF"]ਘਟਿ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%9F%E0%A8%BF"]ਘਟਿ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"]ਵਾਜਹਿ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A6"]ਨਾਦ [/URL] ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Bẖugaṯ gi▫ān ḏa▫i▫ā bẖandāraṇ gẖat gẖat vājėh nāḏ. [/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000080]Let spiritual wisdom be your food, and compassion your attendant. The Sound-current of the Naad vibrates in each and every heart.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=2][COLOR=#800000][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BF"]ਆਪਿ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A5%E0%A9%81"]ਨਾਥੁ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A5%E0%A9%80"]ਨਾਥੀ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AD"]ਸਭ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BE"]ਜਾ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%80"]ਕੀ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%BF"]ਰਿਧਿ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%BF"]ਸਿਧਿ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE"]ਅਵਰਾ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A6"]ਸਾਦ [/URL] ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Āp nāth nāthī sabẖ jā kī riḏẖ siḏẖ avrā sāḏ. [/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000080]He Himself is the Supreme Master of all; wealth and miraculous spiritual powers, and all other external tastes and pleasures, are all like beads on a string.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=2][COLOR=#800000][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81"]ਸੰਜੋਗੁ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81"]ਵਿਜੋਗੁ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%87"]ਦੁਇ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0"]ਕਾਰ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"]ਚਲਾਵਹਿ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A9%87"]ਲੇਖੇ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BF"]ਆਵਹਿ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%97"]ਭਾਗ [/URL] ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Sanjog vijog ḏu▫e kār cẖalāvėh lekẖe āvahi bẖāg. [/SIZE][B][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000080]Union with Him, and separation from Him, come by His Will. We come to receive what is written in our destiny.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=2][COLOR=#800000][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81"]ਆਦੇਸੁ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%88"]ਤਿਸੈ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81"]ਆਦੇਸੁ [/URL] ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Āḏes ṯisai āḏes. [/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000080]I bow to Him, I humbly bow.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [FONT=AnmolUniPr][SIZE=2][COLOR=#800000][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BF"]ਆਦਿ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%81"]ਅਨੀਲੁ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BF"]ਅਨਾਦਿ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BF"]ਅਨਾਹਤਿ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81"]ਜੁਗੁ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%97%E0%A9%81"]ਜੁਗੁ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%8F%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B"]ਏਕੋ [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81"]ਵੇਸੁ [/URL] ॥੨੯॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=2]Āḏ anīl anāḏ anāhaṯ jug jug eko ves. ||29|| [/SIZE][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000080]The Primal One, the Pure Light, without beginning, without end. Throughout all the ages, He is One and the Same. ||29||[SIZE=1] [/SIZE][/COLOR][/SIZE] [/INDENT]I am curious of the sangat's understanding as I have none of my own and recent discussion about hukam has got me wondering where these concepts fit in Sikhi. [/QUOTE]
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