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<blockquote data-quote="pk70" data-source="post: 100785" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Extremely respectable Gyani Jio</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> Kindly allow me to pitch in context of your post and I hope you wont mind. If we try to interpret “ upathi” for the beings, it looks odd in the complete Stanza(Pauri), in this Guru stanza, Guru Ji is not discussing actions of others but His <u> care about His created beings </u>and <u>immense power He has over them even on their actions</u> and Guru ji is not portraying PRABH ji with animosity but t<u>he power of His Ordinance.</u> Let’s look at again, from the first Guru Vaak, His power is being discussed and it continues till the end, no where deeds of any one are discussed or hinted at</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: maroon"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%89%E0%A9%9C%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਉੜੀ</span> </a></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਚਿਤੈ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%85%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਅੰਦਰਿ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%AD%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਭੁ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%8B" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੋ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵੇਖਿ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਦਰੀ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%A0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੇਠਿ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਚਲਾਇਦਾ</span> </a>[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦੇ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%A1%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%88%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਡਿਆਈਆ </span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਆਪੇ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੀ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰਮ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰਾਇਦਾ</span> </a>[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%A1%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਡਹੁ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%A1%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਡਾ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%A1" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਡ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੇਦਨੀ </span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਿਰੇ </span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਿਰਿ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A7%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧੰਧੈ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲਾਇਦਾ</span> </a>[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਦਰਿ </span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%A0%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਉਪਠੀ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੇ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰੇ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੁਲਤਾਨਾ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਘਾਹੁ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਰਾਇਦਾ</span> </a>[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦਰਿ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੰਗਨਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਭਿਖ </span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨ</span> </a> <a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਾਇਦਾ</span> </a>[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੧੬</span></span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Pa▫oṛī.[/FONT]Cẖiṯai anḏar sabẖ ko vekẖ naḏrī heṯẖ cẖalā▫iḏā.[/FONT]Āpe ḏe vaḏi▫ā▫ī▫ā āpe hī karam karā▫iḏā.[/FONT]vadahu vadā vad meḏnī sire sir ḏẖanḏẖai lā▫iḏā.[/FONT]Naḏar upṯẖī je kare sulṯānā gẖāhu karā▫iḏā.[/FONT]Ḏar mangan bẖikẖ na pā▫iḏā. ||16||</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">[/FONT] In E[/FONT]</span>[/FONT]<span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> care </span></span>[/FONT]<span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">ssence: All are in His mind; he watches and moves them under His glance(watch). He Himself grants glory and causes others to act. God is great and great is His creation (Earth=world) and he puts everyone in to work. If it displeases Him, He can make the King (Powerful) to eat grace ( or meager diet) .Even if they beg, they may not get any alms(if He wills so)</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">In the first Vaak, all is about <strong>His grace </strong>and <strong>care</strong> towards His created beings, second Vaak suggests that His created beings are jst medium to act as per His Will, then comes the immense His Power greatness of His creation and His control on others to act, now look at the next Vaak, “Nadr upathi je kre”, think about, who does” nadr upathi?” “Sultan”? No, God, what He does? reduced kings to be insignificant, so it is all about His command. If some one concludes that God does this because He is not Nirvair, its that person’s sheer failure to understand <strong>His Ordinance</strong>” <strong>(Nanak Hukme je bujhai ta Haomai kahe n koye(Japji</strong>) In this case His Hukam is expressed in a nut shell, if its not understood, its not fault of Guru Nanak</span></span>[/FONT]</p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> If we change meaning here, what we will do in the following Guru Vaakas in which God is directly related to His justice</span></span></p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: maroon"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%89%E0%A9%9C%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਉੜੀ</span> </a></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span> <span style="color: maroon"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਨਕ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%80%E0%A8%85" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜੀਅ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਉਪਾਇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲਿਖਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਵੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧਰਮੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਹਾਲਿਆ</span> </a>[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span> <span style="color: maroon"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%93%E0%A8%A5%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਓਥੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%9A%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਚੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹੀ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਚਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%AC%E0%A9%9C%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਿਬੜੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਚੁਣਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਖਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%A2%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਢੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%AE%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਜਮਾਲਿਆ</span> </a>[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span> <span style="color: maroon"><strong><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A5%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%89" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਥਾਉ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਪਾਇਨਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A9%82%E0%A9%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%B0" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੂੜਿਆਰ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B9" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਮੁਹ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%8D%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕਾਲ੍ਹ੍ਹੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%8B%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦੋਜਕਿ</span> </a></strong><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਚਾਲਿਆ</span></strong> </a>[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span> <span style="color: maroon"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਤੇਰੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਰਤੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%87" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸੇ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਜਿਣਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%8F" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗਏ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਹਾਰਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%8F" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗਏ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਸਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A0%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%A3" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਠਗਣ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਵਾਲਿਆ</span> </a>[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span> <span style="color: maroon"><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਲਿਖਿ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਵੈ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਧਰਮੁ</span> </a><a href="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਬਹਾਲਿਆ</span> </a>[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span><span style="color: maroon"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੨</span></span><span style="color: maroon">॥[/FONT]</span> </span>[/FONT]</p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Pa▫oṛī.</span></span><span style="font-size: 12px"> Nānak jī▫a upā▫e kai likẖ nāvai ḏẖaram bahāli▫ā.[/FONT] Othai sacẖe hī sacẖ nibṛai cẖuṇ vakẖ kadẖe jajmāli▫ā.[/FONT] Thā▫o na pā▫in kūṛi▫ār muh kālĥai ḏojak cẖāli▫ā.[/FONT] Ŧerai nā▫e raṯe se jiṇ ga▫e hār ga▫e sė ṯẖagaṇ vāli▫ā.[/FONT] Likẖ nāvai ḏẖaram bahāli▫ā. ||2||[/FONT] </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span>[/FONT]</p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">In Essence: After creating beings, they are made subject to Dharma- justice. Under that, based on the truth, decision is taken and faulty are taken out. Such faulty beings get no place and get dishonored in His justice, who are absorbed in His praise pass, the cheaters get defeated. This is the way Almighty has established Dharm-justice</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Now persons like Mahabir Singh ji will question it and can say God is not like this who dishonors and throws people in hell as He claims God cannot be like this( Then we have to explain what does it mean Hell here to him). Problem here, if he thinks like this,it is his will not to understand Guru Ji's God and His creation and His law of justice together in one picture, God’s justice is not against anybody, period, actually it’s a part of His created system. It’s like a law securing justice on evidence (deeds) Of course God is always loving and caring. Guru Nanak talks about God and His Ordinance in different contexts, when he talks about His ordinance; he expresses how it is eternal and pure. If it seems an act of enmity or revenge to some, its questioners' limited understanding of Guru Nanak’s God. As Guru ji defines Him, no where He is portrayed as having animosity and revenge at all. Guru hopes his definitions of His Hukam will be understood as eternal law(Hukam=Ordinance).</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I hope you will look at it again.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Humbly and with Regards,</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px">G Singh</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pk70, post: 100785, member: 5889"] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]Extremely respectable Gyani Jio[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3] Kindly allow me to pitch in context of your post and I hope you wont mind. If we try to interpret “ upathi” for the beings, it looks odd in the complete Stanza(Pauri), in this Guru stanza, Guru Ji is not discussing actions of others but His [U] care about His created beings [/U]and [U]immense power He has over them even on their actions[/U] and Guru ji is not portraying PRABH ji with animosity but t[U]he power of His Ordinance.[/U] Let’s look at again, from the first Guru Vaak, His power is being discussed and it continues till the end, no where deeds of any one are discussed or hinted at[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=maroon][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%89%E0%A9%9C%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਉੜੀ[/FONT] [/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=3][COLOR=maroon][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9A%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A4%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਚਿਤੈ[/FONT] [/URL] 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[/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਪੇ[/FONT] [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਦੇ[/FONT] [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%A1%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%88%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਡਿਆਈਆ [/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%86%E0%A8%AA%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਆਪੇ[/FONT] [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਹੀ[/FONT] [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਰਮ[/FONT] [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਰਾਇਦਾ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%A1%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਡਹੁ[/FONT] [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%A1%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਡਾ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%A1"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਡ[/FONT] [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%A8%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਮੇਦਨੀ [/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਿਰੇ [/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਿਰਿ[/FONT] [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%A7%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਧੰਧੈ[/FONT] [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਲਾਇਦਾ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਦਰਿ [/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%89%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%A0%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਉਪਠੀ[/FONT] [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਜੇ[/FONT] [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਰੇ[/FONT] [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%81%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%A4%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੁਲਤਾਨਾ[/FONT] [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%98%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B9%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਘਾਹੁ[/FONT] [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%95%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਕਰਾਇਦਾ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਦਰਿ[/FONT] [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%B0%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਮੰਗਨਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AD%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96"][FONT=Raavi]ਭਿਖ [/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8"][FONT=Raavi]ਨ[/FONT] [/URL] [URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%87%E0%A8%A6%E0%A8%BE"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਾਇਦਾ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੧੬[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] Pa▫oṛī.[/FONT]Cẖiṯai anḏar sabẖ ko vekẖ naḏrī heṯẖ cẖalā▫iḏā.[/FONT]Āpe ḏe vaḏi▫ā▫ī▫ā āpe hī karam karā▫iḏā.[/FONT]vadahu vadā vad meḏnī sire sir ḏẖanḏẖai lā▫iḏā.[/FONT]Naḏar upṯẖī je kare sulṯānā gẖāhu karā▫iḏā.[/FONT]Ḏar mangan bẖikẖ na pā▫iḏā. ||16|| [/FONT] In E[/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3] care [/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]ssence: All are in His mind; he watches and moves them under His glance(watch). He Himself grants glory and causes others to act. God is great and great is His creation (Earth=world) and he puts everyone in to work. If it displeases Him, He can make the King (Powerful) to eat grace ( or meager diet) .Even if they beg, they may not get any alms(if He wills so)[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]In the first Vaak, all is about [B]His grace [/B]and [B]care[/B] towards His created beings, second Vaak suggests that His created beings are jst medium to act as per His Will, then comes the immense His Power greatness of His creation and His control on others to act, now look at the next Vaak, “Nadr upathi je kre”, think about, who does” nadr upathi?” “Sultan”? No, God, what He does? reduced kings to be insignificant, so it is all about His command. If some one concludes that God does this because He is not Nirvair, its that person’s sheer failure to understand [B]His Ordinance[/B]” [B](Nanak Hukme je bujhai ta Haomai kahe n koye(Japji[/B]) In this case His Hukam is expressed in a nut shell, if its not understood, its not fault of Guru Nanak[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3] If we change meaning here, what we will do in the following Guru Vaakas in which God is directly related to His justice[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3][COLOR=maroon][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AA%E0%A8%89%E0%A9%9C%E0%A9%80"][FONT=Raavi]ਪਉੜੀ[/FONT] [/URL][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=3][COLOR=maroon][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%95"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਨਕ[/FONT] 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[/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A9%87"][FONT=Raavi]ਸੇ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%9C%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%A3%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਜਿਣਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%8F"][FONT=Raavi]ਗਏ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਹਾਰਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%8F"][FONT=Raavi]ਗਏ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B8%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਸਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A0%E0%A8%97%E0%A8%A3"][FONT=Raavi]ਠਗਣ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B5%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਵਾਲਿਆ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=maroon][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%96%E0%A8%BF"][FONT=Raavi]ਲਿਖਿ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A8%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B5%E0%A9%88"][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਵੈ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%A7%E0%A8%B0%E0%A8%AE%E0%A9%81"][FONT=Raavi]ਧਰਮੁ[/FONT] [/URL][URL="http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.dictionary?Param=%E0%A8%AC%E0%A8%B9%E0%A8%BE%E0%A8%B2%E0%A8%BF%E0%A8%86"][FONT=Raavi]ਬਹਾਲਿਆ[/FONT] [/URL][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon][FONT=Raavi]੨[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=maroon]॥[/FONT][/COLOR] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]Pa▫oṛī.[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=3] Nānak jī▫a upā▫e kai likẖ nāvai ḏẖaram bahāli▫ā.[/FONT] Othai sacẖe hī sacẖ nibṛai cẖuṇ vakẖ kadẖe jajmāli▫ā.[/FONT] Thā▫o na pā▫in kūṛi▫ār muh kālĥai ḏojak cẖāli▫ā.[/FONT] Ŧerai nā▫e raṯe se jiṇ ga▫e hār ga▫e sė ṯẖagaṇ vāli▫ā.[/FONT] Likẖ nāvai ḏẖaram bahāli▫ā. ||2||[/FONT] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]In Essence: After creating beings, they are made subject to Dharma- justice. Under that, based on the truth, decision is taken and faulty are taken out. Such faulty beings get no place and get dishonored in His justice, who are absorbed in His praise pass, the cheaters get defeated. This is the way Almighty has established Dharm-justice[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]Now persons like Mahabir Singh ji will question it and can say God is not like this who dishonors and throws people in hell as He claims God cannot be like this( Then we have to explain what does it mean Hell here to him). Problem here, if he thinks like this,it is his will not to understand Guru Ji's God and His creation and His law of justice together in one picture, God’s justice is not against anybody, period, actually it’s a part of His created system. It’s like a law securing justice on evidence (deeds) Of course God is always loving and caring. Guru Nanak talks about God and His Ordinance in different contexts, when he talks about His ordinance; he expresses how it is eternal and pure. If it seems an act of enmity or revenge to some, its questioners' limited understanding of Guru Nanak’s God. As Guru ji defines Him, no where He is portrayed as having animosity and revenge at all. Guru hopes his definitions of His Hukam will be understood as eternal law(Hukam=Ordinance).[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]I hope you will look at it again.:)[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]Humbly and with Regards,[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=3]G Singh [/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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