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Composition, Arrangement & Layout
ਜਪੁ | Jup
ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Original" data-source="post: 208267" data-attributes="member: 14400"><p>..consider them as means to an end. What end ? God. What God ? The you God. Sikhism spiritual is to that end, but first, says Nanak, self-realisation is a must, before God realisation. These so called words [shabds, meaning sound] are to connect you to the real you. What real me ? The "a-ha" moment, sound of the penny-dropping without there being a penny [see Chz for details].</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>...I think we gonna have to be a little more clinical here; let's open it up a liitle. <strong>Thinking n feeling</strong> ! where the former is said to be an activity of the mind, the latter is that of the heart. By definition then, love is matter of the heart. And, since its feelings, it cannot be physically quantified, qualitatively defined, nor objectively tested. What does that tell you ? It is very very personal, meaning, only "you" the experiencer, the observer, the "mumbler" can truly know what love is, coz you can feel it.</p><p></p><p>..you see, this is the beautiful bit about you, your intellectual honesty ! nuturing requires an exertion of effort, some do some don't. The more the sugar the sweeter the tea, and so is Waheguru. The more the contemplation the greater the splendour.</p><p></p><p>We all like to kid ourselves now and then, but in truth, humans are utterly helpless against the Will of God.</p><p></p><p>But then again..that is your prerogative brother ! Like they say, you can take the mule to water, but you can't make it drink. And, likewise, Sikh spiritual is that pool, pool of nectar, which, those of us who drink and taste can express, you can't. That is not to say, you can't comment, of course you can, you've been doing it long enough; but that as I said above, the primary organ operative is the mind and not the heart. And, God my dear brother, resides in the heart.</p><p></p><p>Incidently, Baba Nanak, condemned self-alination, denial, hermitisation, etc. Instead, he recommended participation and total social responsiblity in all walks of life. He added value and said, "hey human, try keeping a balance between bit of everything, that is, <strong>physical</strong> [say a romp with a nun, in your case],<strong> mental, emotional</strong> [say love] and <strong>spiritual</strong> [meaning, the real you].</p><p></p><p>..and a ticket to the spiritual world. Nanak says, 'dukh daru', meaning pain is medicine.</p><p></p><p>...the real you, mummy's boy! give up these so called mental exercises [manmukh] and get hold of your real self. The real as you know is, Waheguru, all else is the creation of the mind. And, just coz you're a coconut [environment and social] don't forget the genetic you, meaning, mum n dad. You're roots go back to mine....we're the first apes to have walked the planet. Let go of these idle talks between faiths etc for you are a true warrior [Sikh] and<strong> the battle is with the self</strong> and not with Hindus, Abrahamics and the spiritualists.</p><p>...H, I must go for my morning jog - speak soon !</p><p></p><p>TC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Original, post: 208267, member: 14400"] ..consider them as means to an end. What end ? God. What God ? The you God. Sikhism spiritual is to that end, but first, says Nanak, self-realisation is a must, before God realisation. These so called words [shabds, meaning sound] are to connect you to the real you. What real me ? The "a-ha" moment, sound of the penny-dropping without there being a penny [see Chz for details]. [B][/B] ...I think we gonna have to be a little more clinical here; let's open it up a liitle. [B]Thinking n feeling[/B] ! where the former is said to be an activity of the mind, the latter is that of the heart. By definition then, love is matter of the heart. And, since its feelings, it cannot be physically quantified, qualitatively defined, nor objectively tested. What does that tell you ? It is very very personal, meaning, only "you" the experiencer, the observer, the "mumbler" can truly know what love is, coz you can feel it. ..you see, this is the beautiful bit about you, your intellectual honesty ! nuturing requires an exertion of effort, some do some don't. The more the sugar the sweeter the tea, and so is Waheguru. The more the contemplation the greater the splendour. We all like to kid ourselves now and then, but in truth, humans are utterly helpless against the Will of God. But then again..that is your prerogative brother ! Like they say, you can take the mule to water, but you can't make it drink. And, likewise, Sikh spiritual is that pool, pool of nectar, which, those of us who drink and taste can express, you can't. That is not to say, you can't comment, of course you can, you've been doing it long enough; but that as I said above, the primary organ operative is the mind and not the heart. And, God my dear brother, resides in the heart. Incidently, Baba Nanak, condemned self-alination, denial, hermitisation, etc. Instead, he recommended participation and total social responsiblity in all walks of life. He added value and said, "hey human, try keeping a balance between bit of everything, that is, [B]physical[/B] [say a romp with a nun, in your case],[B] mental, emotional[/B] [say love] and [B]spiritual[/B] [meaning, the real you]. ..and a ticket to the spiritual world. Nanak says, 'dukh daru', meaning pain is medicine. ...the real you, mummy's boy! give up these so called mental exercises [manmukh] and get hold of your real self. The real as you know is, Waheguru, all else is the creation of the mind. And, just coz you're a coconut [environment and social] don't forget the genetic you, meaning, mum n dad. You're roots go back to mine....we're the first apes to have walked the planet. Let go of these idle talks between faiths etc for you are a true warrior [Sikh] and[B] the battle is with the self[/B] and not with Hindus, Abrahamics and the spiritualists. ...H, I must go for my morning jog - speak soon ! TC [/QUOTE]
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