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ਸੋ ਦਰੁ | So Dar
ਸੋਹਿਲਾ | Sohilaa
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
Ashtpadiyan (53-71)
Gurbani (71-74)
Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
Vaar Siri Raag (83-91)
Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
Ashtpadi (109)
Ashtpadiyan (110-129)
Ashtpadi (129-130)
Ashtpadiyan (130-133)
Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
Ashtpadiyan (235-242)
Chhant (242-249)
Baavan Akhari (250-262)
Sukhmani (262-296)
Thittee (296-300)
Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
Gurbani (323-330)
Ashtpadiyan (330-340)
Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
Panchpadde (364-365)
Kaafee (365-409)
Aasaavaree (409-411)
Ashtpadiyan (411-432)
Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
Salok | Gatha | Phunahe | Chaubole | Swayiye
Sehskritee Mahala 1
Sehskritee Mahala 5
Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
Chaubolae Mahala 5
Shaloks Bhagat Kabir
Shaloks Sheikh Farid
Swaiyyae Mahala 5
Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
Shalok Ninth Mehl
Mundavanee Mehl 5
ਰਾਗ ਮਾਲਾ, Raag Maalaa
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<blockquote data-quote="Gyani Jarnail Singh" data-source="post: 177343" data-attributes="member: 189"><p>1. When people first began to study Gurbani and find "answers"...many either wore the "vedic Glasses" and saw everything as Vedic Based...</p><p>Slowly more and more saw the error of this way...</p><p>2. Then some just took one tuk or one word..and assumed that it was GURMATT...beleiving that EACH TUK is Gurmatt..else WHY is that TUK in the SGGS...</p><p>Slowly many began to realize that GURBANI addresses people in THEIR language/Context/Beleif system...but at the END in the RAHAO TUK..is the REAL GURMATT BASED ANSWER...that the BOTTOM LINE is RAHAO TUK...not the REST of the Shabad !!</p><p>3. SGGS/GURBANI/GURMATT is 100% about EK....the SGGS BEGINS with EK...the EK that is INFUSED in His CREATION as is SUGAR in MILK....</p><p>Slowly many began to realise that EK..is NOT..."sitting on some high throne in heaven etc and like a KING dispensing Orders and has na army of ahilkaars..servnats generals etc follwoing those orders..HE is NOT AWAY/OUT/DISTANT form His CREATION...HE doesnt employ Dharamtraajs and Angels and Satans etc...The SGGS repeats again and again MILLION TIMES..that there is ONLY EK....HE is Jehangir..HE is GURU ARJUN..HE is Bababr and HE is GURU NANAK..He is SATAN..and HE is NOT SATAN..He is LIGHT and HE IS DARKNESS....He is Guru Teg bahadur Ji and He is the EXECUTIONER cutting off Guru Teg bahdur jis head...EK....EK....EK...ONLY EK...NONE OTHER....</p><p></p><p>ALL meanings answers are INSIDE SGGS...there is no need to go read the Vedas..the Koran..the Bible..The Mahabharta..the Ramayna..the WHATEVER..in order to UNDERSTAND the SGGS..its SELF EXPLANATORY..its SELF COMPLETE...ITS EK..the EK manifested in all EK GLORY...EK OANKAAR repeated thousands of times and 31 times in FULL on each RAAG..</p><p></p><p>See Bani SIDH GHOSHT..its in QUESTION ANSWER STYLE. we CANNOT take each TUK as the BELIEF SYSTEM....( That would be equal to a student sitting for his exam just looking at the QUESTIONS on the Question Paper and coming out that he has finished his examination.)..we have to GO FIND the ANSWER that GURU JI provides..THAT ANSWER is GURU JIS BELIEF SYSTEM....not what the Siddhs asked. Guru nanak ji saw some Religious persons spreading their own excreta and smelling it..he also saw some pulling out their hairs by the roots and rubbing ashes..he saw some leaving their homes and families to wander around..begging for food...he saw many shifting house to die in Benaras..he saw some giving away everything to get their heads sawn off at Hardwaar in order to secure a place in heaven..he saw Inder with a million "vaginas" over his body...he saw so many things..ALL of which are mentioned in SGGS....BUT ALL these are NOT GURMATT BELIEFS...these are ILLUSTRATIONS..EXAMPLES of what the people did and still do..what they beleive/beleived IN...and we have to discover what GURU JI BELIEVES IN..thats GURMATT and its all in SGGS..but if we really LOOK. Mnay used to say and still say..OH GURBANI is a deep Ocean..the deeper you dive..the more pearls you get..or..Gurbani is too deep..it has many meanings blah blah blah...the TRUTH is that SGGS...GURBANI is ALL EK...it has ONLY EK Meaning...EK BELIEF...EK PEARL....the Pearl of GURMATT. There is no place for multiples..duality...misinterpretation...EKA BANNI..EK GUR..EK BICHAAR...is the Central theme of the entire SGGS composed by over 36 authors over many centuries coming from diverse backgrounds religions places etc BUT ALL WROTE EXCLUSIVELY ON EK..and their personal experiences with ONLY EK... Not a single Composer has written about any DEVI..Avtaar..Devta as the Basis of His Beleif System...ALL AGREE only on EK...WHENEVER any writing of any composer that DEVIATED from EK was presented to GURU NANAK JI/GURU ARJUN JI/GURU GOBIND SINGH JI..it was REJECTED OUTRIGHT. Even many writings of Established Bhagats like Kabir Ji were rejected because they were at variance with his writings on EK.....Perhaps this is why Guru Arjun Ji decided to put the name of the composer on the titles..otherwise the entire SGGS reads as writings of EK COMPOSER...not an iota of disagreement anywhere...</p><p></p><p>IF one argues..Brahma is mentioned..so its OK to be Brahma based beleif..Inder..Shiva..ganesh..Krishan raam..sita..dharamraaj..satan..etc etc are mentioned...so SIKHS can "base their beleif sytem" on those...also mentioned are Yogis..sidhs..jains..sakats. reincarnations..joons..rebirths..recycling..etc etc..pilgrimages..baths at sarovars..etc etc..fasts..daans..sootaks..bad days..good days..lucky days..unlucky days..shubh ashubh..etc etc etc..and its OK to base beleif on those..THEN what is GURMATT ?? What NEW GYAAN did GURU NANAK ji bring ?? IS it the SAME OLD WINE in a new Bottle ?? NO definitley NOT...its BRAND NEW and LATEST GYAAN...GURMATT OF EK...RUBBISHING EVERYTHING that came Before..sootaks and janeaus..karam kaands and rituals..EVERYTHING is DISCARDED..and ONLY THE EK is stressed. GURU JI wrote the BARAH MAH to DIFFERENTIATE the EK GURMATT INTERPRETATION of the 12 months..Guru Ji wrote the SEVEN DAY WEEK SHABADS to DIFFERENTIATE the Brand New GURMATT interpretation of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday Saturday ets etc...GURU ji wrote the SADD to tell us HOW to treta DEATH in the EK GURMATT way...Guru Ji wrote the ANAND..the GHORRIHAN to be SUNG at WEDDINGS to differentiate form the traditional Ghorriahn sung by MORTALS from the Ghorrihan of the EK.. GURU ji worte the ALLAHNNIAHs of the EK to take us away form the Mortal allahnihan of wailing and crying at DEATH.....BUT we just simply close our eyes..and when we read the SADD..we wear the VEDIC Glasses and go looking for the REJECTED Pandit..and his Purans and karam kaands divas pattal kiryas, bhandeh bistreh daan etc etc...when the REAL SADD of the EK GURMATT is pointing us in the RIGHT DIRECTION !!</p><p></p><p>EK EK EK EK EK EK EK EK EK EK........1429 Pages of SGGS...is that very difficult to see ?? I wonder...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gyani Jarnail Singh, post: 177343, member: 189"] 1. When people first began to study Gurbani and find "answers"...many either wore the "vedic Glasses" and saw everything as Vedic Based... Slowly more and more saw the error of this way... 2. Then some just took one tuk or one word..and assumed that it was GURMATT...beleiving that EACH TUK is Gurmatt..else WHY is that TUK in the SGGS... Slowly many began to realize that GURBANI addresses people in THEIR language/Context/Beleif system...but at the END in the RAHAO TUK..is the REAL GURMATT BASED ANSWER...that the BOTTOM LINE is RAHAO TUK...not the REST of the Shabad !! 3. SGGS/GURBANI/GURMATT is 100% about EK....the SGGS BEGINS with EK...the EK that is INFUSED in His CREATION as is SUGAR in MILK.... Slowly many began to realise that EK..is NOT..."sitting on some high throne in heaven etc and like a KING dispensing Orders and has na army of ahilkaars..servnats generals etc follwoing those orders..HE is NOT AWAY/OUT/DISTANT form His CREATION...HE doesnt employ Dharamtraajs and Angels and Satans etc...The SGGS repeats again and again MILLION TIMES..that there is ONLY EK....HE is Jehangir..HE is GURU ARJUN..HE is Bababr and HE is GURU NANAK..He is SATAN..and HE is NOT SATAN..He is LIGHT and HE IS DARKNESS....He is Guru Teg bahadur Ji and He is the EXECUTIONER cutting off Guru Teg bahdur jis head...EK....EK....EK...ONLY EK...NONE OTHER.... ALL meanings answers are INSIDE SGGS...there is no need to go read the Vedas..the Koran..the Bible..The Mahabharta..the Ramayna..the WHATEVER..in order to UNDERSTAND the SGGS..its SELF EXPLANATORY..its SELF COMPLETE...ITS EK..the EK manifested in all EK GLORY...EK OANKAAR repeated thousands of times and 31 times in FULL on each RAAG.. See Bani SIDH GHOSHT..its in QUESTION ANSWER STYLE. we CANNOT take each TUK as the BELIEF SYSTEM....( That would be equal to a student sitting for his exam just looking at the QUESTIONS on the Question Paper and coming out that he has finished his examination.)..we have to GO FIND the ANSWER that GURU JI provides..THAT ANSWER is GURU JIS BELIEF SYSTEM....not what the Siddhs asked. Guru nanak ji saw some Religious persons spreading their own excreta and smelling it..he also saw some pulling out their hairs by the roots and rubbing ashes..he saw some leaving their homes and families to wander around..begging for food...he saw many shifting house to die in Benaras..he saw some giving away everything to get their heads sawn off at Hardwaar in order to secure a place in heaven..he saw Inder with a million "vaginas" over his body...he saw so many things..ALL of which are mentioned in SGGS....BUT ALL these are NOT GURMATT BELIEFS...these are ILLUSTRATIONS..EXAMPLES of what the people did and still do..what they beleive/beleived IN...and we have to discover what GURU JI BELIEVES IN..thats GURMATT and its all in SGGS..but if we really LOOK. Mnay used to say and still say..OH GURBANI is a deep Ocean..the deeper you dive..the more pearls you get..or..Gurbani is too deep..it has many meanings blah blah blah...the TRUTH is that SGGS...GURBANI is ALL EK...it has ONLY EK Meaning...EK BELIEF...EK PEARL....the Pearl of GURMATT. There is no place for multiples..duality...misinterpretation...EKA BANNI..EK GUR..EK BICHAAR...is the Central theme of the entire SGGS composed by over 36 authors over many centuries coming from diverse backgrounds religions places etc BUT ALL WROTE EXCLUSIVELY ON EK..and their personal experiences with ONLY EK... Not a single Composer has written about any DEVI..Avtaar..Devta as the Basis of His Beleif System...ALL AGREE only on EK...WHENEVER any writing of any composer that DEVIATED from EK was presented to GURU NANAK JI/GURU ARJUN JI/GURU GOBIND SINGH JI..it was REJECTED OUTRIGHT. Even many writings of Established Bhagats like Kabir Ji were rejected because they were at variance with his writings on EK.....Perhaps this is why Guru Arjun Ji decided to put the name of the composer on the titles..otherwise the entire SGGS reads as writings of EK COMPOSER...not an iota of disagreement anywhere... IF one argues..Brahma is mentioned..so its OK to be Brahma based beleif..Inder..Shiva..ganesh..Krishan raam..sita..dharamraaj..satan..etc etc are mentioned...so SIKHS can "base their beleif sytem" on those...also mentioned are Yogis..sidhs..jains..sakats. reincarnations..joons..rebirths..recycling..etc etc..pilgrimages..baths at sarovars..etc etc..fasts..daans..sootaks..bad days..good days..lucky days..unlucky days..shubh ashubh..etc etc etc..and its OK to base beleif on those..THEN what is GURMATT ?? What NEW GYAAN did GURU NANAK ji bring ?? IS it the SAME OLD WINE in a new Bottle ?? NO definitley NOT...its BRAND NEW and LATEST GYAAN...GURMATT OF EK...RUBBISHING EVERYTHING that came Before..sootaks and janeaus..karam kaands and rituals..EVERYTHING is DISCARDED..and ONLY THE EK is stressed. GURU JI wrote the BARAH MAH to DIFFERENTIATE the EK GURMATT INTERPRETATION of the 12 months..Guru Ji wrote the SEVEN DAY WEEK SHABADS to DIFFERENTIATE the Brand New GURMATT interpretation of Sunday, Monday, Tuesday Saturday ets etc...GURU ji wrote the SADD to tell us HOW to treta DEATH in the EK GURMATT way...Guru Ji wrote the ANAND..the GHORRIHAN to be SUNG at WEDDINGS to differentiate form the traditional Ghorriahn sung by MORTALS from the Ghorrihan of the EK.. GURU ji worte the ALLAHNNIAHs of the EK to take us away form the Mortal allahnihan of wailing and crying at DEATH.....BUT we just simply close our eyes..and when we read the SADD..we wear the VEDIC Glasses and go looking for the REJECTED Pandit..and his Purans and karam kaands divas pattal kiryas, bhandeh bistreh daan etc etc...when the REAL SADD of the EK GURMATT is pointing us in the RIGHT DIRECTION !! EK EK EK EK EK EK EK EK EK EK........1429 Pages of SGGS...is that very difficult to see ?? I wonder... [/QUOTE]
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