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Dancing To Shabads

Discussion in 'Sikh Sikhi Sikhism' started by ActsOfGod, Feb 10, 2016.

  1. ActsOfGod

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    Well how do you like them apples:



    Shabad "Deh Shiva Bar Mohe" followed by a catchy Bhangra tune. I wonder how many of these misguided folks could even tell the difference.

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    awwwwwww come on that's not fair, these are 3HO types, if your going to judge them on standard Sikh rules then it is like shooting fish in a barrel. This is actually quite tame and mild compared to some practices, in any case singing shabads and then dancing a catchy tune is not limited to Sikh weddings!

    I did not know "Deh Shiva Bar Mohe" was a shabad.
     
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    They aren't the only ones, check out these precious gems

     
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    Dancing in Guru Sahib's darbar?

     
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    This one takes the cake. Bhangra and dancing in Guru Sahib's Darbar.

     
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    ਕੋਉ ਬੁਤਾਨ ਕੋ ਪੂਜਤ ਹੈ ਪਸੁ ਕੋਉ ਮ੍ਰਿਤਾਨ ਕੋ ਪੂਜਨ ਧਾਇਓ ॥
    Some fool worships the idols and someone goes to worship the dead.

    ਕੂਰ ਕ੍ਰਿਆ ਉਰਝਿਓ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਜਗ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਕੋ ਭੇਦੁ ਨ ਪਾਇਓ ॥੧੦॥੩੦॥
    The whole world is entangled in false rituals and has not known the secret of Lord-God 10.30.
     
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    I just feel that Sikhism will die in a couple of decades.. This fake {censored word, do not repeat.} baba's are making their own {censored word, do not repeat.}ing cults and making Sikhism look like some Ritual shit! Hell! We don't believe in rituals are pray to {censored word, do not repeat.}ing idols... Sorry for my language, I am just annoyed that these fake organisations are {censored word, do not repeat.}izing Sikhi!
     
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    Uh, thats not a Shabad, that's a song
     
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    At about 2min 22sec into the video, he starts singing "Soora So Pechhaniye", is that a song too?

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    It's worse than you think. Check out these folks applying tilak to Guru Granth Sahib:

     
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    It just keeps getting weirder, and weirder:



    I believe the right term is, Gobsmacked. Yes, I'm gobsmacked.
     
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    Oh it gets much weirder than that, I stopped caring what other people were doing a while back, its a waste of energy and time, all you can is make sure your own actions and thoughts are as beyond reproach as possible, we are not our brothers keeper, and maybe such folk are equally as gobsmacked at our lack or ritual and ceremony.

    Or are you suggesting we all turn up armed with knives and teach them a lesson?
     
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    Yes that is certainly true.

    Not not at all. I just can't fathom some of the stuff that going on in those videos, that's all.

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    Also, who to blame? the people? the lack of clear direction from Sikh leadership? We make a big thing of saying that ritual is pointless, we quote Guru Nanakji refusing to wear a thread, of pointing his feet at what people perceive to be god, at throwing water at fields, all in an effort to show how pointless ritual is, and then end up doing exactly the same to various degrees, I don't blame these people, I blame the state of the Sikh quom
     
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    earlier even in 20th century some nirmale sabad keertanie used sing and dance as well with khartaals
     
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    if its a 'i have no clue what i'm doing, and dancing like the shabad is a dance track just for the sake of pleasing a fake baba' then its beyind wrong, its just crazy

    but if the existence of God becomes known to you through your own being, then who knows how one will react...through dance, through poetry, through tears, through smiles etc etc ... in this instance it doesnt matter....but the world will look upon that person and think "this dudes taking the pissss" unfortunately
     
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    Guru Fateh to All.

    A question to the Scholars.

    Does anyone know who started and why the following is forbidden in the Gurdwaras?

    1. No Applause
    2. No Dancing

    When a Sikh is at a forum outside the Gurdwara along with other religions and if he/she quotes from Gurbani with the right message, people do applaud.

    The good Raagis Dance with their hands while sitting cross legged .

    According to SGGS, our only Guru, Ik Ong Kaar is omnipresent, hence no walls between Ik Ong Kaar and anything/one else. We are reminded of his/hers/its omnipresence daily when we recite/understand and practice Nitnem in our daily lives- the life of Miri-Piri. Our Piri side is only manifested through our Miri.

    Thanks

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    Maybe it's a sign of happiness and sadness that no one can really understand so as its a distracting force mechanism people choose to not focus on it. Then again it just seems to me that they forbid anything that makes a louder presence of the Guru Granth Sahib's shabad's in the Guru's darbar apart from lava marriage rights which even then the sangat present are acting in accordance and adherence to the prayer and blessings being asked for them. People want to judge Sikhs on activities or actions they perform they can do on that instance even I'd admit I'm a flop when it comes to being totally Gurmukh I have no shame in accepting that as I'm a Sikh and always learning as a human being but to judge the Guru Granth Sahib ji you would have to understand it. That's what helps you pick your path; Shakespeare; To be, or not, To be! To be a more sensible answer. Its always Waheguru ji ki khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fathe. Natures illusions always lose as mukti is always Gods triumph.
     
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    Parma ji,

    Guru Fateh.

    I understand your sentiment. However, the applause is a sign of appreciation after the 'performance'.

    Lastly regarding, "Maybe it's a sign of happiness and sadness that no one can really understand so as its a distracting force mechanism people choose to not focus on it", who are we to judge?
    What is sadness for some could be self contemplation for others.
     
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