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<blockquote data-quote="rabjot_singh@yahoo.co.in" data-source="post: 88703" data-attributes="member: 3179"><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Dear Sikh80ji,</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I do believe that guru nanak never claimed to be an incarnate of vishnu but i don't agree with the view that he was not in favour of teachings of vedas. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Nanak do accept the teachings of vedas but he said that in Kalyuga the teachings of Vedas has been replaced by the words of Guru (Gurbani).</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The Vedas also speak of the same lord and i think no where its written that nanak rejected the teachings of Vedas. </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The corruption that has occured in hinduism is not because of vedas but because of false spiritual practices being followed by hindu people.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">9th Guru says :</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">बेद पुरान पड़े को इह गुन सिमरे हरि को नामा ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">This is the blessing of studying the Vedas and the Puraanas, that you may meditate on the Name of the Lord. ||1||Pause||</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: black">Nanak Says :</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">घोखे सासत्र बेद सभ आन न कथतउ कोइ ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">I have searched all the Shaastras and the Vedas, and they say nothing except this:</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">आदि जुगादी हुणि होवत नानक एकै सोइ ॥१॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">“In the beginning, throughout the ages, now and forevermore, O Nanak, the One Lord alone exists”. ||1||</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">बेद पुरान सिम्रिति बूझै मूल ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">He understands the fundamental essence of the Vedas, the Puraanas and the Simritees.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Nanak says :</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">वेदा महि नामु उतमु सो सुणहि नाही फिरहि जिउ बेतालिआ ॥</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">In the Vedas, the ultimate objective is the Naam, the Name of the Lord; but they do not hear this, and they wander around like demons.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: black"><strong>You will find the following verse also in granth sahib which clearly states that :</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000"><strong>बेद कतेब कहहु मत झूठे झूठा जो न बिचारै ॥</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080"><strong>Do not say that the Vedas, the Bible and the Koran are false. Those who do not contemplate them are false.</strong></span></span></span></p><p>Lord krishna is held in high respect in Granth sahib following verses show that :</p><p> </p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">हरि आपे कान्हु उपाइदा मेरे गोविदा हरि आपे गोपी खोजी जीउ ॥</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p></p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">The Lord Himself created Krishna, O my Lord of the Universe; the Lord Himself is the milkmaids who seek Him.</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">लख चउरासीह जीअ जोनि महि भ्रमत नंदु बहु थाको रे ॥</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">Wandering through 8.4 million incarnations, Krishna's father Nand was totally exhausted.</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">भगति हेति अवतारु लीओ है भागु बडो बपुरा को रे ॥१॥</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">Because of his devotion, Krishna was incarnated in his home; how great was the good fortune of this poor man! ||1||</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">चरन बधिक जन तेऊ मुकति भए ॥</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">The hunter who shot Krishna in the foot - even he was liberated.</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">जुगु दुआपुरु आइआ भरमि भरमाइआ हरि गोपी कान्हु उपाइ जीउ ॥</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px">The Brass Age of Dwaapar Yuga came, and people wandered in doubt. The Lord created the Gopis and Krishna. </span></span>[/FONT][FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">The One Lord Krishna is the Divine Lord of all; He is the Divinity of the individual soul.</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">धनि धनि तू माता देवकी ॥</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">Blessed, blessed are you, O mother Dayvakee;</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">जिह ग्रिह रमईआ कवलापती ॥२॥</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">into your home the Lord (in the form of Krishna) was born. ||2||</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">धनि धनि बन खंड बिंद्राबना ॥</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">Blessed, blessed are the forests of Brindaaban;</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">जह खेलै स्री नाराइना ॥३॥</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #000080">the Supreme Lord (in the garb of Krishna) plays there. ||3||</span></span>[/FONT] </p><p>[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800000">गुरमति क्रिसनि गोवरधन धारे ॥</span></span>[/FONT] <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">[FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif]<span style="font-size: 12px">Through the Guru's Teachings (Here the guru refers to Almighty), Krishna lifted up the mountain of Govardhan</span></span>[/FONT]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rabjot_singh@yahoo.co.in, post: 88703, member: 3179"] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Dear Sikh80ji,[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I do believe that guru nanak never claimed to be an incarnate of vishnu but i don't agree with the view that he was not in favour of teachings of vedas. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Nanak do accept the teachings of vedas but he said that in Kalyuga the teachings of Vedas has been replaced by the words of Guru (Gurbani).[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]The Vedas also speak of the same lord and i think no where its written that nanak rejected the teachings of Vedas. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]The corruption that has occured in hinduism is not because of vedas but because of false spiritual practices being followed by hindu people.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]9th Guru says :[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]बेद पुरान पड़े को इह गुन सिमरे हरि को नामा ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]This is the blessing of studying the Vedas and the Puraanas, that you may meditate on the Name of the Lord. ||1||Pause||[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black]Nanak Says :[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]घोखे सासत्र बेद सभ आन न कथतउ कोइ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]I have searched all the Shaastras and the Vedas, and they say nothing except this:[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]आदि जुगादी हुणि होवत नानक एकै सोइ ॥१॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]“In the beginning, throughout the ages, now and forevermore, O Nanak, the One Lord alone exists”. ||1||[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]बेद पुरान सिम्रिति बूझै मूल ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]He understands the fundamental essence of the Vedas, the Puraanas and the Simritees.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Nanak says :[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]वेदा महि नामु उतमु सो सुणहि नाही फिरहि जिउ बेतालिआ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]In the Vedas, the ultimate objective is the Naam, the Name of the Lord; but they do not hear this, and they wander around like demons.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=black][B]You will find the following verse also in granth sahib which clearly states that :[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000][B]बेद कतेब कहहु मत झूठे झूठा जो न बिचारै ॥[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080][B]Do not say that the Vedas, the Bible and the Koran are false. Those who do not contemplate them are false.[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] Lord krishna is held in high respect in Granth sahib following verses show that : [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]हरि आपे कान्हु उपाइदा मेरे गोविदा हरि आपे गोपी खोजी जीउ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]The Lord Himself created Krishna, O my Lord of the Universe; the Lord Himself is the milkmaids who seek Him.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]लख चउरासीह जीअ जोनि महि भ्रमत नंदु बहु थाको रे ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]Wandering through 8.4 million incarnations, Krishna's father Nand was totally exhausted.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]भगति हेति अवतारु लीओ है भागु बडो बपुरा को रे ॥१॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]Because of his devotion, Krishna was incarnated in his home; how great was the good fortune of this poor man! ||1||[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]चरन बधिक जन तेऊ मुकति भए ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]The hunter who shot Krishna in the foot - even he was liberated.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]जुगु दुआपुरु आइआ भरमि भरमाइआ हरि गोपी कान्हु उपाइ जीउ ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3]The Brass Age of Dwaapar Yuga came, and people wandered in doubt. The Lord created the Gopis and Krishna. [/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]The One Lord Krishna is the Divine Lord of all; He is the Divinity of the individual soul.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]धनि धनि तू माता देवकी ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]Blessed, blessed are you, O mother Dayvakee;[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]जिह ग्रिह रमईआ कवलापती ॥२॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]into your home the Lord (in the form of Krishna) was born. ||2||[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]धनि धनि बन खंड बिंद्राबना ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]Blessed, blessed are the forests of Brindaaban;[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]जह खेलै स्री नाराइना ॥३॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]the Supreme Lord (in the garb of Krishna) plays there. ||3||[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800000]गुरमति क्रिसनि गोवरधन धारे ॥[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=times new roman, new york, times, serif][SIZE=3]Through the Guru's Teachings (Here the guru refers to Almighty), Krishna lifted up the mountain of Govardhan[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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