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<blockquote data-quote="spnadmin" data-source="post: 193399" data-attributes="member: 35"><p>Guru Amardas ji Ang 586/7</p><p></p><p>Does Gurbani encourage begging? Or does it encourage finding one's spiritual center within the hukam of one's own present circumstances?</p><p></p><p>I am seeking an answer to a work-related question. After 3 long distance phone calls to Washington, things turned confusing. An answering service for the wrong organization picked up my calls for the organization I was actually trying to reach just after 9 am. Then, I made 3 more calls, and the correct party answered but transferred me to voice mail. I am still waiting for 3 return answers. I made a final call to Pittsburgh where the advice I received was just as uncertain as my own thinking on the problem. It was time for a break. </p><p></p><p>I take hukamnama.</p><p></p><p>The pauree is the hukamnama I took this morning. Not for physical, emotional or spiritual pain. Not for spiritual or emotional confusion. I was feeling just fine, except for one thing. My brain was just not working. </p><p></p><p></p><p> ਸਲੋਕੁ ਮਃ ੩ ॥</p><p>Salok mėhlā 3.</p><p>Shalok, Third Mehl:</p><p></p><p>ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਮਿਲਿਐ ਭੁਖ ਗਈ ਭੇਖੀ ਭੁਖ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥</p><p>Saṯgur mili▫ai bẖukẖ ga▫ī bẖekẖī bẖukẖ na jā▫e.</p><p>Meeting with the True Guru, hunger departs; <strong>by wearing the robes of a beggar, hunger does not depart.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong><span style="color: Blue"> <em>Gurbani does not encourage "begging."</em></span></p><p></p><p>ਦੁਖਿ ਲਗੈ ਘਰਿ ਘਰਿ ਫਿਰੈ ਅਗੈ ਦੂਣੀ ਮਿਲੈ ਸਜਾਇ ॥</p><p>Ḏukẖ lagai gẖar gẖar firai agai ḏūṇī milai sajā▫e.</p><p>Afflicted with pain, he wanders from house to house, and in the world hereafter, he receives double punishment.</p><p></p><p><em>That is me wandering from department to department and org to org becoming confused and frustrated. I was frustrated because a work-related problem needs an answer which has been hard to get. And was losing focus. </em></p><p></p><p>ਅੰਦਰਿ ਸਹਜੁ ਨ ਆਇਓ ਸਹਜੇ ਹੀ ਲੈ ਖਾਇ ॥</p><p>Anḏar sahj na ā▫i▫o sėhje hī lai kẖā▫e.</p><p>Peace does not come to his heart - he is not content to eat what comes his way.</p><p></p><p><em>The shabad comes my way and settles my mind.</em></p><p></p><p>ਮਨਹਠਿ ਜਿਸ ਤੇ ਮੰਗਣਾ ਲੈਣਾ ਦੁਖੁ ਮਨਾਇ ॥</p><p>Manhaṯẖ jis ṯe mangṇā laiṇā ḏukẖ manā▫e.</p><p>With his stubborn mind, he begs, and grabs, and annoys those who give.</p><p><em><em></em></em></p><p><em><em>In this case, I am annoying myself more than anyone else.</em></em></p><p></p><p>ਇਸੁ ਭੇਖੈ ਥਾਵਹੁ ਗਿਰਹੋ ਭਲਾ ਜਿਥਹੁ ਕੋ ਵਰਸਾਇ ॥</p><p>Is bẖekẖai thāvhu girho bẖalā jithahu ko varsā▫e.</p><p><strong>Instead of wearing these beggar's robes, it is better to be a householder, and give to others.</strong></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>I have yet today to do this but will help anyone today whose brain is similarly spent.</em></p><p></p><p>ਸਬਦਿ ਰਤੇ ਤਿਨਾ ਸੋਝੀ ਪਈ ਦੂਜੈ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾਇ ॥</p><p>Sabaḏ raṯe ṯinā sojẖī pa▫ī ḏūjai bẖaram bẖulā▫e.</p><p>Those who are attuned to the Word of the Shabad, acquire understanding; the others wander, deluded by doubt.</p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Never has the shabad failed me in problems large and looming or small. As of this moment I am not certain whether the problem at work will straighten itself out. Everything depends on regulations coming from a national organization that has not been helpful so far. At this moment I am content to wait.</em></p><p></p><p>ਪਇਐ ਕਿਰਤਿ ਕਮਾਵਣਾ ਕਹਣਾ ਕਛੂ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥</p><p>Pa▫i▫ai kiraṯ kamāvaṇā kahṇā kacẖẖū na jā▫e.</p><p>They act according to their past actions; it is useless to talk to them.<em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>It is useless for me to pound away at the problem. The confusion will continue or I can chose to be patient.</em></p><p></p><p>ਨਾਨਕ ਜੋ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਵਹਿ ਸੇ ਭਲੇ ਜਿਨ ਕੀ ਪਤਿ ਪਾਵਹਿ ਥਾਇ ॥੧॥</p><p>Nānak jo ṯis bẖāvėh se bẖale jin kī paṯ pāvahi thā▫e. ||1||</p><p>O Nanak, those who are pleasing unto the Lord are good; He upholds their honor. ||1||</p><p></p><p><em>Things are not the "end-of-the-world." This like all other work-related questions will solve itself the way such things are meant to be solved. This is out of my control. The Guru settles all affairs. No need for me to dishonor myself with frantic thinking or by making demands on others.</em></p><p></p><p></p><p>I decided to take hukam because often the shabad will focus my attention and filter out scattered thoughts. Later then I am able to concentrate on things. So interesting that the pauree is related to this thread in spite of the fact I wasn't even thinking about this thread at the time! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Cool~</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spnadmin, post: 193399, member: 35"] Guru Amardas ji Ang 586/7 Does Gurbani encourage begging? Or does it encourage finding one's spiritual center within the hukam of one's own present circumstances? I am seeking an answer to a work-related question. After 3 long distance phone calls to Washington, things turned confusing. An answering service for the wrong organization picked up my calls for the organization I was actually trying to reach just after 9 am. Then, I made 3 more calls, and the correct party answered but transferred me to voice mail. I am still waiting for 3 return answers. I made a final call to Pittsburgh where the advice I received was just as uncertain as my own thinking on the problem. It was time for a break. I take hukamnama. The pauree is the hukamnama I took this morning. Not for physical, emotional or spiritual pain. Not for spiritual or emotional confusion. I was feeling just fine, except for one thing. My brain was just not working. ਸਲੋਕੁ ਮਃ ੩ ॥ Salok mėhlā 3. Shalok, Third Mehl: ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਮਿਲਿਐ ਭੁਖ ਗਈ ਭੇਖੀ ਭੁਖ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ Saṯgur mili▫ai bẖukẖ ga▫ī bẖekẖī bẖukẖ na jā▫e. Meeting with the True Guru, hunger departs; [B]by wearing the robes of a beggar, hunger does not depart. [COLOR="Blue"][/COLOR][/B][COLOR="Blue"] [I]Gurbani does not encourage "begging."[/I][/COLOR] ਦੁਖਿ ਲਗੈ ਘਰਿ ਘਰਿ ਫਿਰੈ ਅਗੈ ਦੂਣੀ ਮਿਲੈ ਸਜਾਇ ॥ Ḏukẖ lagai gẖar gẖar firai agai ḏūṇī milai sajā▫e. Afflicted with pain, he wanders from house to house, and in the world hereafter, he receives double punishment. [I]That is me wandering from department to department and org to org becoming confused and frustrated. I was frustrated because a work-related problem needs an answer which has been hard to get. And was losing focus. [/I] ਅੰਦਰਿ ਸਹਜੁ ਨ ਆਇਓ ਸਹਜੇ ਹੀ ਲੈ ਖਾਇ ॥ Anḏar sahj na ā▫i▫o sėhje hī lai kẖā▫e. Peace does not come to his heart - he is not content to eat what comes his way. [I]The shabad comes my way and settles my mind.[/I] ਮਨਹਠਿ ਜਿਸ ਤੇ ਮੰਗਣਾ ਲੈਣਾ ਦੁਖੁ ਮਨਾਇ ॥ Manhaṯẖ jis ṯe mangṇā laiṇā ḏukẖ manā▫e. With his stubborn mind, he begs, and grabs, and annoys those who give. [I][I] In this case, I am annoying myself more than anyone else.[/I][/I] ਇਸੁ ਭੇਖੈ ਥਾਵਹੁ ਗਿਰਹੋ ਭਲਾ ਜਿਥਹੁ ਕੋ ਵਰਸਾਇ ॥ Is bẖekẖai thāvhu girho bẖalā jithahu ko varsā▫e. [B]Instead of wearing these beggar's robes, it is better to be a householder, and give to others.[/B] [I] I have yet today to do this but will help anyone today whose brain is similarly spent.[/I] ਸਬਦਿ ਰਤੇ ਤਿਨਾ ਸੋਝੀ ਪਈ ਦੂਜੈ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾਇ ॥ Sabaḏ raṯe ṯinā sojẖī pa▫ī ḏūjai bẖaram bẖulā▫e. Those who are attuned to the Word of the Shabad, acquire understanding; the others wander, deluded by doubt. [I] Never has the shabad failed me in problems large and looming or small. As of this moment I am not certain whether the problem at work will straighten itself out. Everything depends on regulations coming from a national organization that has not been helpful so far. At this moment I am content to wait.[/I] ਪਇਐ ਕਿਰਤਿ ਕਮਾਵਣਾ ਕਹਣਾ ਕਛੂ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ Pa▫i▫ai kiraṯ kamāvaṇā kahṇā kacẖẖū na jā▫e. They act according to their past actions; it is useless to talk to them.[I] It is useless for me to pound away at the problem. The confusion will continue or I can chose to be patient.[/I] ਨਾਨਕ ਜੋ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਵਹਿ ਸੇ ਭਲੇ ਜਿਨ ਕੀ ਪਤਿ ਪਾਵਹਿ ਥਾਇ ॥੧॥ Nānak jo ṯis bẖāvėh se bẖale jin kī paṯ pāvahi thā▫e. ||1|| O Nanak, those who are pleasing unto the Lord are good; He upholds their honor. ||1|| [I]Things are not the "end-of-the-world." This like all other work-related questions will solve itself the way such things are meant to be solved. This is out of my control. The Guru settles all affairs. No need for me to dishonor myself with frantic thinking or by making demands on others.[/I] I decided to take hukam because often the shabad will focus my attention and filter out scattered thoughts. Later then I am able to concentrate on things. So interesting that the pauree is related to this thread in spite of the fact I wasn't even thinking about this thread at the time! :) Cool~ [/QUOTE]
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