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<blockquote data-quote="pk70" data-source="post: 85638" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p><strong>Re: Q&A with Sant Jagjit Singh ji Harkhowal</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰ ਸੇਵਾ ਆਪਿ ਹਰਿ ਭਾਵੈ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: purple"> </span></p><p><span style="color: purple">gur saevaa aap har bhaavai ||</span></p><p><span style="color: purple">Service to the Guru is pleasing to the Lord Himself. </span></p><p><span style="color: purple"></span></p><p><span style="color: purple"></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨੁ ਬਲਭਦ੍ਰੁ ਗੁਰ ਪਗ ਲਗਿ ਧਿਆਵੈ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: purple"> </span></p><p><span style="color: purple">kirasan balabhadhra gur pag lag dhhiaavai ||</span></p><p><span style="color: purple">Even <span style="color: Red">Krishna and Balbhadar meditated on the Lord, falling at the Guru's Feet.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: purple"><span style="color: Red"></span> </span></p><p><span style="color: purple"></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਹਰਿ ਆਪਿ ਤਰਾਵੈ </span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੪</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੫</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੪੩</span></span><span style="color: purple"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: purple"> </span></p><p><span style="color: purple">naanak guramukh har aap tharaavai ||4||5||43||</span></p><p><span style="color: purple">O Nanak, the Lord Himself saves the Gurmukhs. ||4||5||43||</span></p><p><span style="color: purple">~SGGS Ji p. 165</span></p><p> <span style="color: black">Clearly Gurbani is calling </span><span style="color: black">Krishna</span><span style="color: black"> a Gurmukh who is surrendered to Guruji's feet. If </span><span style="color: black">Krishna</span><span style="color: black"> is described as a Gurumukh in Gurbani, why do Sikhs say He is NOT merged with nirguna, but only egotistically boasting in a false way?(quote Harjas Kaur Khalsa Ji)</span></p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color: black">Dear Sangat ji, now first try to understand the above Gurbani quote, and then we shall see if Harjas kaur Khalsa ji’s is correct.</span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: black">Very clearly it is said in the first Vaak of above Gurbani quote that it is the real Guru seva( obeying the Guru) which pleases Almighty, next Vaak says clearly that Krishna also meditated on HIM by <u>taking refuge in Gur</u>u, next following Vaak says, it is <u>HIM who saves those who follow Guru.</u> <u>Where is </u>[/FONT]</span></strong><u><strong><span style="color: black">Krishna[/FONT]</span></strong></u><strong><span style="color: black"><u> called Guru or Gurmukh</u>? Isn’t a lie to prove him a Gurmukh, Krishna in Bhagwat Geeta boasts to be HIM( Creator ), Guru bachan says he mediated on Him by taking refuge in Guru. See the difference. It has nothing to do what Bhain ji is trying to say, obviously her second hand understanding of Gurbani and her desparate determination to convert Sikhism into Hinduism are playing this role of distorting of Gurbani , forgive me, I have to say that because this is what it has been going on. You say a word against Veda, [/FONT]</span></strong><strong><span style="color: black">Krishna[/FONT]</span></strong><strong><span style="color: black">, Hindu, she will jump upon you, all the same, you are free to say any thing against Gurbani, she won’t care. Now lets see the next one:[/FONT]</span></strong></p><p><strong>[/FONT]</strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਮਧੁਸੂਦਨੁ ਨਿਸਤਾਰੇ </span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: blue"> </span></p><p><span style="color: blue">guramukh madhhusoodhan nisathaarae ||</span></p><p><span style="color: blue">The Gurmukhs are emancipated by the Lord.</span></p><p><span style="color: blue"></span></p><p><span style="color: blue">[/FONT]</span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸੰਗੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਮੁਰਾਰੇ </span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: blue"> </span></p><p><span style="color: blue">guramukh sangee kirasan muraarae ||</span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="color: Red">The Lord </span>becomes the Gurmukh's Companion.</span></p><p><span style="color: blue"></span></p><p><span style="color: blue">[/FONT]</span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਦਇਆਲ ਦਮੋਦਰੁ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਾਈਐ ਹੋਰਤੁ ਕਿਤੈ ਨ ਭਾਤੀ ਜੀਉ </span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੨</span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: blue"> </span></p><p><span style="color: blue">dhaeiaal dhamodhar guramukh paaeeai horath kithai n bhaathee jeeo ||2||</span></p><p><span style="color: blue">The Gurmukh finds t<span style="color: Red">he Merciful</span> Lord. He is not found any other way. ||2||</span></p><p><span style="color: blue">[/FONT]</span> <span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਿਰਹਾਰੀ</span></span> <strong><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੇਸਵ</span></span></strong> <span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਨਿਰਵੈਰਾ </span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: blue"> </span></p><p><span style="color: blue">nirehaaree <strong>kaesav</strong> niravairaa ||</span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="color: Red">He</span> does not need to eat; His Hair is Wondrous and Beautiful; He is free of hate.</span></p><p><span style="color: blue"></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਕੋਟਿ ਜਨਾ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਪੂਜਹਿ ਪੈਰਾ </span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: blue"> </span></p><p><span style="color: blue">kott janaa jaa kae poojehi pairaa ||</span></p><p><span style="color: blue">Millions of people <strong>worship <span style="color: Red">His Feet</span></strong><span style="color: Red">.( Lord's)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: blue"><span style="color: Red"></span> </span></p><p><span style="color: blue"></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਜਾ ਕੈ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਸੋਈ ਭਗਤੁ ਇਕਾਤੀ ਜੀਉ </span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Raavi'">੩</span></span><span style="color: blue"><span style="font-family: 'Mangal'">॥</span></span><span style="color: blue"> </span></p><p><span style="color: blue">guramukh hiradhai jaa kai har har soee bhagath eikaathee jeeo ||3||</span></p><p><span style="color: blue">He alone is a devotee, who becomes Gurmukh, whose heart is filled with the Lord, Har, Har. ||3|</span></p><p><span style="color: blue">~SGGS Ji p. 98</span></p><p> One of the traditional titles of Krishna is "the Lord of beautiful hair,"<strong> Keshava</strong>. So Gurbani equates Krishna as a disciple, as a Guru, as merged with the Divine and as the Transcendant Lord Himself.</p><p> <strong>Again, in the above Gurbani quote, it doesnt talk about Krishna but about <span style="color: Red">the Lord</span>, if we believe for a second that Bhain ji is right, then why in the previous above quote, Guru ji says <span style="color: Red">Krishna also meditated on HIM b</span>y taking refuge in Guru; suddenly now Gurbani has turned towards Krishna as a GOD? No, reality is simple, in Gurbani, Lord is addressed with many names, one of them is Krishan Muraar( eko Krishanan. Also Allah etc.) Never forget that Gurbani also <span style="color: Red">considers Krishan as one of the millions</span> HE created. It just doesn’t add up, distortion is going on, take one Vaak from here and one from there and keep beating the drums which is getting very annoying ( due ti their being lies).</strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Guru Sahibaan have defined all these terms, if one just float on the words that doesn’t give license to one to force ones own views on Sikhs, it is unfortunate that without understanding the depth of Guru bachan, many would just remain away from Guru Message. Through all Sree Guru Granth Sahib ji, only one Lord and love and pining for Him are dominating factors, the rest are references to make people understand HIS sargun Sroop and Nirguna at the same time. As these guys get references, so do other creations because Guru ji also says in context of His sargun Sroop” O my Lord, you yourself are fish, you yourself is fisherman and the bait”( Mehl-1). Should the Sikhs then look for Fisherman, fish and bait to contemplate on them as special ones and start revering them? Point is simple, when one is defining all HIS creation, individuals talked about in the past, will be referred. For Sikhs, HIS Nirguna Sroop is to be contemplated, to please Guru ji, this is a written Hukam by Guru ji himself, all the rest should not detour your attention. Follow Guru and save yourself from misguiding illusions. Look at this snatana sect, it has degraded the society, exploited the society, now in today’s age, to look good, they talk about Sikhism or Budhism as their part and their Gurus as incarnation of Vishnu who himself couldn’t get MUKTI, poor conceptual thing still incarnates. It sounds so funny to my rationality that it makes me laugh when I see this false campaign against Sikhism or Buddhism. Grapes are sour as their own agenda along with religious belief, do not match even high standrads of humanity and human rights.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p> <strong>This is what I have to say today, I won’t be able to respond to abnormally long posts due to my limits to Internet till August 30th. Thanks.</strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue"> </span></p><p> <span style="color: blue">[/FONT]</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pk70, post: 85638, member: 5889"] [b]Re: Q&A with Sant Jagjit Singh ji Harkhowal[/b] [COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰ ਸੇਵਾ ਆਪਿ ਹਰਿ ਭਾਵੈ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple] gur saevaa aap har bhaavai || Service to the Guru is pleasing to the Lord Himself. [/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨੁ ਬਲਭਦ੍ਰੁ ਗੁਰ ਪਗ ਲਗਿ ਧਿਆਵੈ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple] kirasan balabhadhra gur pag lag dhhiaavai || Even [COLOR=Red]Krishna and Balbhadar meditated on the Lord, falling at the Guru's Feet. [/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਹਰਿ ਆਪਿ ਤਰਾਵੈ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]੪[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]੫[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Raavi]੪੩[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=purple] naanak guramukh har aap tharaavai ||4||5||43|| O Nanak, the Lord Himself saves the Gurmukhs. ||4||5||43|| ~SGGS Ji p. 165[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]Clearly Gurbani is calling [/COLOR][COLOR=black]Krishna[/COLOR][COLOR=black] a Gurmukh who is surrendered to Guruji's feet. If [/COLOR][COLOR=black]Krishna[/COLOR][COLOR=black] is described as a Gurumukh in Gurbani, why do Sikhs say He is NOT merged with nirguna, but only egotistically boasting in a false way?(quote Harjas Kaur Khalsa Ji)[/COLOR] [COLOR=black] [/COLOR] [B][COLOR=black]Dear Sangat ji, now first try to understand the above Gurbani quote, and then we shall see if Harjas kaur Khalsa ji’s is correct.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=black]Very clearly it is said in the first Vaak of above Gurbani quote that it is the real Guru seva( obeying the Guru) which pleases Almighty, next Vaak says clearly that Krishna also meditated on HIM by [U]taking refuge in Gur[/U]u, next following Vaak says, it is [U]HIM who saves those who follow Guru.[/U] [U]Where is [/U][/FONT][/COLOR][/B][U][B][COLOR=black]Krishna[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][/U][B][COLOR=black][U] called Guru or Gurmukh[/U]? Isn’t a lie to prove him a Gurmukh, Krishna in Bhagwat Geeta boasts to be HIM( Creator ), Guru bachan says he mediated on Him by taking refuge in Guru. See the difference. It has nothing to do what Bhain ji is trying to say, obviously her second hand understanding of Gurbani and her desparate determination to convert Sikhism into Hinduism are playing this role of distorting of Gurbani , forgive me, I have to say that because this is what it has been going on. You say a word against Veda, [/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black]Krishna[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][B][COLOR=black], Hindu, she will jump upon you, all the same, you are free to say any thing against Gurbani, she won’t care. Now lets see the next one:[/FONT][/COLOR] [/FONT][/B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਮਧੁਸੂਦਨੁ ਨਿਸਤਾਰੇ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue] guramukh madhhusoodhan nisathaarae || The Gurmukhs are emancipated by the Lord. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸੰਗੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਮੁਰਾਰੇ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue] guramukh sangee kirasan muraarae || [COLOR=Red]The Lord [/COLOR]becomes the Gurmukh's Companion. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Raavi]ਦਇਆਲ ਦਮੋਦਰੁ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਾਈਐ ਹੋਰਤੁ ਕਿਤੈ ਨ ਭਾਤੀ ਜੀਉ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Raavi]੨[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue] dhaeiaal dhamodhar guramukh paaeeai horath kithai n bhaathee jeeo ||2|| The Gurmukh finds t[COLOR=Red]he Merciful[/COLOR] Lord. He is not found any other way. ||2|| [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=blue][FONT=Raavi]ਨਿਰਹਾਰੀ[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue] [/COLOR][B][COLOR=blue][FONT=Raavi]ਕੇਸਵ[/FONT][/COLOR][/B][COLOR=blue] [/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Raavi]ਨਿਰਵੈਰਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue] nirehaaree [B]kaesav[/B] niravairaa || [COLOR=Red]He[/COLOR] does not need to eat; His Hair is Wondrous and Beautiful; He is free of hate. [/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Raavi]ਕੋਟਿ ਜਨਾ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਪੂਜਹਿ ਪੈਰਾ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue] kott janaa jaa kae poojehi pairaa || Millions of people [B]worship [COLOR=Red]His Feet[/COLOR][/B][COLOR=Red].( Lord's) [/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Raavi]ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਜਾ ਕੈ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਸੋਈ ਭਗਤੁ ਇਕਾਤੀ ਜੀਉ [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Raavi]੩[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue][FONT=Mangal]॥[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=blue] guramukh hiradhai jaa kai har har soee bhagath eikaathee jeeo ||3|| He alone is a devotee, who becomes Gurmukh, whose heart is filled with the Lord, Har, Har. ||3| ~SGGS Ji p. 98[/COLOR] One of the traditional titles of Krishna is "the Lord of beautiful hair,"[B] Keshava[/B]. So Gurbani equates Krishna as a disciple, as a Guru, as merged with the Divine and as the Transcendant Lord Himself. [B]Again, in the above Gurbani quote, it doesnt talk about Krishna but about [COLOR=Red]the Lord[/COLOR], if we believe for a second that Bhain ji is right, then why in the previous above quote, Guru ji says [COLOR=Red]Krishna also meditated on HIM b[/COLOR]y taking refuge in Guru; suddenly now Gurbani has turned towards Krishna as a GOD? No, reality is simple, in Gurbani, Lord is addressed with many names, one of them is Krishan Muraar( eko Krishanan. Also Allah etc.) Never forget that Gurbani also [COLOR=Red]considers Krishan as one of the millions[/COLOR] HE created. It just doesn’t add up, distortion is going on, take one Vaak from here and one from there and keep beating the drums which is getting very annoying ( due ti their being lies).[/B] [B]Guru Sahibaan have defined all these terms, if one just float on the words that doesn’t give license to one to force ones own views on Sikhs, it is unfortunate that without understanding the depth of Guru bachan, many would just remain away from Guru Message. Through all Sree Guru Granth Sahib ji, only one Lord and love and pining for Him are dominating factors, the rest are references to make people understand HIS sargun Sroop and Nirguna at the same time. As these guys get references, so do other creations because Guru ji also says in context of His sargun Sroop” O my Lord, you yourself are fish, you yourself is fisherman and the bait”( Mehl-1). Should the Sikhs then look for Fisherman, fish and bait to contemplate on them as special ones and start revering them? Point is simple, when one is defining all HIS creation, individuals talked about in the past, will be referred. For Sikhs, HIS Nirguna Sroop is to be contemplated, to please Guru ji, this is a written Hukam by Guru ji himself, all the rest should not detour your attention. Follow Guru and save yourself from misguiding illusions. Look at this snatana sect, it has degraded the society, exploited the society, now in today’s age, to look good, they talk about Sikhism or Budhism as their part and their Gurus as incarnation of Vishnu who himself couldn’t get MUKTI, poor conceptual thing still incarnates. It sounds so funny to my rationality that it makes me laugh when I see this false campaign against Sikhism or Buddhism. Grapes are sour as their own agenda along with religious belief, do not match even high standrads of humanity and human rights. [/B] [B]This is what I have to say today, I won’t be able to respond to abnormally long posts due to my limits to Internet till August 30th. Thanks.[/B] [COLOR=blue] [/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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