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Gurbani (696-703)
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Solhe (1020-1033)
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Gurbani (1118-1123)
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ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
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<blockquote data-quote="ballym" data-source="post: 119356" data-attributes="member: 2772"><p>We may forgive but never forget. Here is an excerpt from a authentic and detailed report available on ensaaf-org.jklaw.net: </p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'">In May 1988, the police cleared the Golden Temple of terrorists with little violence. No sacred buildings were blasted by tanks. If only this could have been done 4 years earlier, when again, a handful of militants led by Sant Bhindranwale could have been dealt with. It has been noted that on June 1, 1984, the day of the army action, Sant Bhindranwale held his rooftop meeting in the Golden Temple complex and the army failed to target him or his followers, despite they being in full view. Instead, army</span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'">fire was directed at the buildings in the temple including the Golden Harmandir Sahib as well as pilgrims. The militants were under strict orders by Sant Bhindranwale not to return fire unless the army entered the <span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px">complex.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 10px"> Politica and religion is not that simple. You are thinking from your simple striaght mind. I also used to have such ideas.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Article quoted above is indicative of the basic mentality of Hindu congress who always say that they are a secular party. BJP is better in the way that they do not lie about their ideology. Known enemy is better than a bad friend.</span></span></span></span></span></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Guru Gobind Singh Ji said Sawaa lakh to ek ladaoun... so who is stopping up from taking over India entirely ... by economic supremacy. USA has done it. Punjaab is prosperous and has prosperous people in UK/CANAD/USA.</span></span></span></span></span></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 10px">You can win by using their own tactics.</span></span></span></span></span></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Frontal attack is not goingto win a war for minority. You have to adopt different means. Bhidranwale had no startegy so he failed. Shubheg Singh had a strategy , that is why he surprised Army( No praise intended).</span></span></span></span></span></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Just a few minutes back beofre I read this thread, I was thinking to mail my brother's daughter to inform about 1984.She is grown up now... at Meerut. My brothers were in Delhi and were advised and saved by their friends... one was sent back at 12 noon from bank branch on Parliament street and other stayed for 7 days without any contact at Maulana Aazad medical where he worked. In those times we did not have cellphone, internet, watchful media. </span></span></span></span></span></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Forgive but never forget. you can not survive and prosper if you forget your history. Bhindranwale may have done more harm than good but Government's reply was not to his actions. He just gave an excuse to govt and Indira to try to decimate sikhs. Remember, hindus were rising against Muslims during the same time....1986 to 1992. Rajiv did not know how to govern and gave chance to BJP to encash opening of Ram janam Bhumi locks in 1986 and allowed november 1984. He really did not know what to do or say. I am sure he must have confided this to Sonia. That may be the reason she thinks that she does not deserve the chair of PM?</span></span></span></span></span></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Human brain and human psychology are most powerful objects of mass destructions.</span></span></span></span></span></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 10px">So the need is to capture India by design.A startegy is needed. Everybody can be bought. Sikhs in Delhi are doing great business afterall. It is all due to hard work mixed with feeding corrupt people. using corrution to your ends can be part of a solution.</span></span></span></span></span></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Another point.... Can we afford to loose patan Saahib and hazoor saahib if we have a separate state.</span></span></span></p></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 10px">I am going too far! You can not win without a strategy.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'Interstate-Regular'"></span></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ballym, post: 119356, member: 2772"] We may forgive but never forget. Here is an excerpt from a authentic and detailed report available on ensaaf-org.jklaw.net: [LEFT][SIZE=1][FONT=Interstate-Regular][SIZE=1][FONT=Interstate-Regular]In May 1988, the police cleared the Golden Temple of terrorists with little violence. No sacred buildings were blasted by tanks. If only this could have been done 4 years earlier, when again, a handful of militants led by Sant Bhindranwale could have been dealt with. It has been noted that on June 1, 1984, the day of the army action, Sant Bhindranwale held his rooftop meeting in the Golden Temple complex and the army failed to target him or his followers, despite they being in full view. Instead, army[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=1][FONT=Interstate-Regular]fire was directed at the buildings in the temple including the Golden Harmandir Sahib as well as pilgrims. The militants were under strict orders by Sant Bhindranwale not to return fire unless the army entered the [FONT=Interstate-Regular][SIZE=1][FONT=Interstate-Regular][SIZE=1]complex.[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/LEFT][SIZE=1][FONT=Interstate-Regular] [SIZE=2] Politica and religion is not that simple. You are thinking from your simple striaght mind. I also used to have such ideas. [/SIZE] [LEFT][SIZE=1][FONT=Interstate-Regular][FONT=Interstate-Regular][FONT=Interstate-Regular][SIZE=2]Article quoted above is indicative of the basic mentality of Hindu congress who always say that they are a secular party. BJP is better in the way that they do not lie about their ideology. Known enemy is better than a bad friend.[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Interstate-Regular][FONT=Interstate-Regular][SIZE=2]Guru Gobind Singh Ji said Sawaa lakh to ek ladaoun... so who is stopping up from taking over India entirely ... by economic supremacy. USA has done it. Punjaab is prosperous and has prosperous people in UK/CANAD/USA.[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Interstate-Regular][FONT=Interstate-Regular][SIZE=2]You can win by using their own tactics.[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Interstate-Regular][FONT=Interstate-Regular][SIZE=2]Frontal attack is not goingto win a war for minority. You have to adopt different means. Bhidranwale had no startegy so he failed. Shubheg Singh had a strategy , that is why he surprised Army( No praise intended).[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Interstate-Regular][FONT=Interstate-Regular][SIZE=2]Just a few minutes back beofre I read this thread, I was thinking to mail my brother's daughter to inform about 1984.She is grown up now... at Meerut. My brothers were in Delhi and were advised and saved by their friends... one was sent back at 12 noon from bank branch on Parliament street and other stayed for 7 days without any contact at Maulana Aazad medical where he worked. In those times we did not have cellphone, internet, watchful media. [/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Interstate-Regular][FONT=Interstate-Regular][SIZE=2]Forgive but never forget. you can not survive and prosper if you forget your history. Bhindranwale may have done more harm than good but Government's reply was not to his actions. He just gave an excuse to govt and Indira to try to decimate sikhs. Remember, hindus were rising against Muslims during the same time....1986 to 1992. Rajiv did not know how to govern and gave chance to BJP to encash opening of Ram janam Bhumi locks in 1986 and allowed november 1984. He really did not know what to do or say. I am sure he must have confided this to Sonia. That may be the reason she thinks that she does not deserve the chair of PM?[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Interstate-Regular][FONT=Interstate-Regular][SIZE=2]Human brain and human psychology are most powerful objects of mass destructions.[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Interstate-Regular][FONT=Interstate-Regular][SIZE=2]So the need is to capture India by design.A startegy is needed. Everybody can be bought. Sikhs in Delhi are doing great business afterall. It is all due to hard work mixed with feeding corrupt people. using corrution to your ends can be part of a solution.[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT] [SIZE=2]Another point.... Can we afford to loose patan Saahib and hazoor saahib if we have a separate state.[/SIZE] [FONT=Interstate-Regular][FONT=Interstate-Regular][SIZE=2]I am going too far! You can not win without a strategy.[/SIZE][/FONT][/FONT][/FONT][/SIZE][/LEFT][SIZE=1][FONT=Interstate-Regular] [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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