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Guru Granth Sahib
Anand Banee
Anand Sahib - 24th Pauri
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<blockquote data-quote="Amarpal" data-source="post: 7674" data-attributes="member: 10"><p><strong>Re: Anand Sahib: 24th Pauri: My understanding</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Dear Balbir Singh Ji,</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Thank you very much for asking the question.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The line in English, which follows the Gurmukhi text in my post, is not the literal translation, but it is the meaning as understood by me.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I have not missed the word ‘hor’ in my mental deliberations to understand what Guru Sahib is telling me. It is taken into account in what I have written in 'My understanding' that followed the sentence from Sri Guru Granth Sahib. Though it is not explicit there.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">My mental deliberations on it i.e. the word 'hor', I share with you here.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The word 'hor' literally means more, additional, it also means other.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">First I take the word 'hor' to mean 'other’ and discuss it here. </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">As I understand my Guru Sahibs, they were positive thinkers. They explained to us what 'The Sat' meant to them. They did not indulge in criticising what others have said. Where something was deep rooted among the masses, which was not desirable, they explained it to the masses and persuaded them to move away from those practices or concepts. They recognised pluralities of ways.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">With this perception in me about my Guru Sahibs, it was not possible for me to accept that my Guru Sahib will any time say that 'other Banee are Kachee. That too in such a sweeping way. </span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">This is the reason why I did not take this meaning (other) for the word 'hor'.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I accepted the word 'hor' to mean additional or more.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">With this meaning for the word hor, the first sentence of this Pauri conveys that without learning the essence of the teachings of the Banee (Satguru), acquiring more of it, the banee will remain kachee. The same meaning is conveyed in what I had posted. To me this meaning apples to first banee i.e. starting from zero or the additional (hor) Banee. As a result I did not feel the need to elaborate on this word ‘hor’.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">In other words I am saying that whether I elaborate or not on the word ‘hor’ used in the first sentence of the Banee, my understanding remains the same.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">However, in case I write a book in future, I will include the elaboration of the word 'hor' in it.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Once again I thank you for your post.</span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">With love and respect for all.</span></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Amarpal Singh</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Amarpal, post: 7674, member: 10"] [b]Re: Anand Sahib: 24th Pauri: My understanding[/b] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]Dear Balbir Singh Ji,[/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]Thank you very much for asking the question.[/size][/font] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]The line in English, which follows the Gurmukhi text in my post, is not the literal translation, but it is the meaning as understood by me.[/size][/font] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]I have not missed the word ‘hor’ in my mental deliberations to understand what Guru Sahib is telling me. It is taken into account in what I have written in 'My understanding' that followed the sentence from Sri Guru Granth Sahib. Though it is not explicit there.[/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]My mental deliberations on it i.e. the word 'hor', I share with you here.[/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]The word 'hor' literally means more, additional, it also means other.[/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]First I take the word 'hor' to mean 'other’ and discuss it here. [/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]As I understand my Guru Sahibs, they were positive thinkers. They explained to us what 'The Sat' meant to them. They did not indulge in criticising what others have said. Where something was deep rooted among the masses, which was not desirable, they explained it to the masses and persuaded them to move away from those practices or concepts. They recognised pluralities of ways.[/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]With this perception in me about my Guru Sahibs, it was not possible for me to accept that my Guru Sahib will any time say that 'other Banee are Kachee. That too in such a sweeping way. [/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]This is the reason why I did not take this meaning (other) for the word 'hor'.[/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]I accepted the word 'hor' to mean additional or more.[/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]With this meaning for the word hor, the first sentence of this Pauri conveys that without learning the essence of the teachings of the Banee (Satguru), acquiring more of it, the banee will remain kachee. The same meaning is conveyed in what I had posted. To me this meaning apples to first banee i.e. starting from zero or the additional (hor) Banee. As a result I did not feel the need to elaborate on this word ‘hor’.[/size][/font] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]In other words I am saying that whether I elaborate or not on the word ‘hor’ used in the first sentence of the Banee, my understanding remains the same.[/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3][/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]However, in case I write a book in future, I will include the elaboration of the word 'hor' in it.[/size][/font] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]Once again I thank you for your post.[/size][/font] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]With love and respect for all.[/size][/font] [size=3][/size] [font=Times New Roman][size=3]Amarpal Singh[/size][/font] [/QUOTE]
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