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<blockquote data-quote="arshi" data-source="post: 120304" data-attributes="member: 9479"><p>Tejwant Singh Ji</p><p> </p><p>Gurfateh</p><p> </p><p>Quite a long post and I am afraid mine will be even longer, out of necessity, to allow me to respond to the many points raised by you. Although, I can ill afford the time, coming back to a backlog of work, the issues you have raised are so interesting I just could not resist.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am touched – for a Gursikh of your calibre to say this is, indeed, a humbling experience – and I mean it. I know there is a lot of false humility today but in my later years I feel I must come to terms with my own spirituality before judging others, especially in the light of the research and reading I have had to undertake in writing the articles on the five negative traits in human nature.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> Tejwant Ji, although I am back I have to contend with a lot of backlog and, therefore, may not be as active on the forum as I would like to be. <strong>Please forgive me if I cannot always respond to your observations immediately.</strong></p><p> </p><p>I do stand corrected on the assumption re: your comments alluding to my earlier post to Lee Ji. But, you can always question my views where they are vague – after all we are brothers - sons of the same father Guru Gobind Singh Ji.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Tejwant Ji, let me make it very clear at the outset that I am not politically orientated or motivated and that your knowledge of Jathedars’ misdemeanors (naughty misdeeds as you put it) and political movements in <st1<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />lace w:st="on">Punjab is far superior to mine. I am more aligned to the spiritual quest – as Lee Ji succintly put it <strong>“that my love for the destination is far greater than my love for the path”</strong></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">and also as I earlier confessed to Narayanjot Kaur Ji, that, at 68, time is running out for me and I must prepare myself to meet my Lord (I pray and hope Guru Ji will by my ‘shepherd’ and He will give me refuge at his lotus feet)</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I totally agree.</span></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I think we all have our own take on the meaning of some words – e.g. judgmental – the term appears to have strong negative connotations, I agree. Is it always bad to be judgmental? Does being critical also imply being judgmental? I am only thinking aloud and not implying anything. What did Bhagat Kabir mean when he said?</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p> </p><p></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Dharam raa-ay jab laykhaa maagai ki-aa mukh lai kai jaahigaa.</span></em><em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">When the Righteous Judge of Dharma calls for your account, what face will you show Him then? (SGGS 1106)</span></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">And Guru Nanak said:</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Karmee kamree hoey vichaar.</span></em></em></p><p><em><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></em></p><p> <em></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">By our deeds and actions we shall be judged.</span></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Please forgive me for only quoting one-liners as this post is already getting long, but these are well known <em>panktis</em>. I think this would be a great topic for a separate essay/discussion and we cannot do justice to it by making comments in passing – perhaps leave it to another day.</span></em></p><p> <em></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I do not believe God metes out punishment as we see it. <strong>We are responsible for our own actions and reap what be sow (Japji Sahib Pauri 20).</strong></span></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I remember, vaguely, reading your dialogue with Satyaben Ji sometimes ago and much of what you wrote then made sense. Again, there is a lot to discuss and debate here. I am struggling just to understand the teachings of the Sikh Gurus, and there is little time left to explore other faiths. </span></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Couldn’t agree more with you.</span></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">jaisaa baalak bhaa-ay subhaa-ee lakh apraadh kamaavai.</span></em></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>kar up<u>d</u>ays jhirhkay baho bhaatee bahurh pitaa gal laavai.</em></span></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">A child, in innocence and naivety, makes numerous mistakes. His father would many times, admonish him and instruct him, but will still hug him close in his embrace</span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> (SGGS 624).</span></em></p><p><em></em></p><p> <em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">No, I haven’t ji. I have read about the bigamist Jathedar. I am afraid I cannot form an opinion without knowing the full facts. /FONT]</span></em></p><p> <em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p> <em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Bigamy is illegal as per our man-made laws (excluding Islamic Law). It is, I think, against the Sikhi Sidhant as it would normally be driven by lust. Can it be justified under exceptional circumstances, e.g. childless marriage, need for a <em>waaris</em> to carry the family name forward? Many would point out that </span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">some Sikh Gurus had more than one <em>mehal</em>. However, during Sikh weddings we emphasis Guru Amar Das Ji’s teachings that a true marriage is a fusion of two souls – ‘two bodies one soul phenomenon’. Again, this is a huge topic in it self. </span></span></em></p><p> <em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">My approach and views expressed above are more in the <strong>philosophical vein</strong> <strong>rather than a political one</strong>. I admit that Akal Takht cannot please all the people all the time, even when good honest people are at the helm but we must review the procedure of these appointments and ensure they are not politically motivated. How we do that? I do not know, but I accept there is no smoke without fire and the current regime has a lot to answer for and must sort itself out. However, many argue that there is a tendency amongst people to accept the Hukamnamas that suit them and reject the others (I am not referring to the one relevant to Prof Sahib)</span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p> <em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Again. I agree – this is the real essence of humility.</span></span></em></p><p> <em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I did not imply you were part of the administration and the comments were definitely not aimed at you. It was only a general observation and not a criticism of any one in particular. </span></span></em></p><p> <em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">There was no inference about the administration not being fair-minded. To the contrary both Narayanjot Kaur Ji and Aman Singh Ji have been nothing but kind to me and have always shown their appreciation for my humble efforts. I may not always agree with their views but I respect them. Occasionally I may wish to ask them to consider their views on a certain issue, with appropriate and constructive persuasion, as they are open-minded individuals. I may even request them, occasionally, not to lean too much towards one side of an argument and shoot down the other party – although I must add that they are very even handed and allow a lot of latitude to members to express their views, which is sometimes abused. The job of a moderator is certainly not an easy one.</span></span></em></p><p> <em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> <em>“As to the current issue only time will tell but I feel confident good reason will prevail (call it naïve or whatever) in the end and the advocates of radical action to divide the Panth may have to wait another day.”</em> you wrote:</span></span></em></p><p> <em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Arshi ji,</span></em></span></em></p></blockquote><p></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I have already commented on Hukamnamas above. I am not going to choose sides on the current Hukamnama against Prof Ji without knowing more about the issues and allow the ‘warring’ sides more time to resolve their differences. My comments were made in good faith for the wellbeing of the Panth based on the belief that Guru Ji will intervene through well meaning agencies to reopen the dialogue and set up a plan to review the issues which are dividing the Panth – call it wishful thinking, but stranger things have happened. Please do not read too much into my comments, which are made with a clear conscious and without leaning to one side or the other.</span></p><p></p><p><em><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Also, please elaborate the above. Moderation and restraint by whom? Only the ones in power can do that. The powerless have no voice, no power.</span></em>[/quote] [/FONT][/I]</p><p> </p><p>]Strange comment ji, as if there is a military dictatorship and a curfew. Surely we are all brothers and there must be ways and means of influencing each other. I don’t believe Ragi Ji is powerless and has no voice. He has thousands of well-wishers, me included. I feel confident something will transpire, it has to, for the sake of our wonderful faith – you may if you wish call this as wishful thinking – I will understand. [/FONT]</p><p> </p><p></p><p> [/FONT][/I] [/FONT][/I]</p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I confess I do not know Mr Lamba at all and do not visit his site (accept when referenced here). If what you claim is right (and I do not doubt your sincerity’), of course it is wrong, in fact fraudulent. It occurs in commercial organisatons, but human nature as it is it spares no one. </span></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Only yesterday in <st1:city w:st="on"><st1<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />lace w:st="on">London</st1:city>, I ran into the current MD and his deputy and a past MD. The past MD, who was only visiting, saw me, from a distance, and as it is his nature, jokingly quipped “Where is your dagger?” To which I replied, in humour, “Don’t worry, I am a fully subscribed member of the Sikh Fraternity and know exactly where to lay my hands on when needed, you are warned.” Everyone laughed and the deputy MD said “Rajinder, only yesterday I saw a Sikh judge dressed very much like you (referring to the suit, the tie and the Kenyan style turban) and he spoke just like you with the same humility and accent”. “Of course, I said you are referring to Sir Mota Singh, who has been recently knighted, and I am proud to say I know him personally and our families have known each other since the Kenyan days.”</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">/FONT]</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">It made me proud to be a Sikh, I must confess, not that I doubt Sikhi at any time. All these comments came as a result of Sir Mota Singh’s support for the right of amritdhari Sikhs to wear the kirpan in schools, in the work place and public places where they may be restrictions. Now just imagine if Sikhs were seen on the TV knocking off each others turban and wielding swords, this would weaken our case and affect a lot of Sikhs, in particular amritdhari Sikhs. With the media as it is news travel fast. This would do immense damage to our interests. <strong>In view of the comments you have made regarding the inefficiency of those in control and power, could we afford to take the risk.</strong> It is one thing accusing each other within the family (internal squabbles) but when we make an exhibition of ourselves on the world scene it harms the whole Sikh Nation and takes us back years in terms of progress and promoting our beliefs. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">On a personal note, as I have said before, I have high regard for you and, in particular, admire your straightforwardness and candid manner, which is much lacking these days. You have been very kind and supportive of my writings. I am more comfortable writing on spirituality and doing kirtan, whenever the opportunity arises, in my spare time. Please do take my comments as made in all honesty and not as a direct criticism of you or your views, and as you sometimes say, I am only thinking aloud and not making any dogmatic inferences. I often do say things off guard in the comfort I am amongst brothers and sisters, one big family of Dasam Pita Guru Gobind Singh Ji. /FONT]</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Please forgive me for any errors or incorrect interpretation of your comments. Please do not feel obliged to respond in detail as I have only tried to clarify your points on request. If I do not respond quickly, it will not be due to lack of will or courtesy but because of time constraints. Hope I have not given any offence. If inadvertently, I have, please accept my apologies in advance.</span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Kind regards,</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Rajinder Singh ‘Arshi’</span></span></p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="arshi, post: 120304, member: 9479"] Tejwant Singh Ji Gurfateh Quite a long post and I am afraid mine will be even longer, out of necessity, to allow me to respond to the many points raised by you. Although, I can ill afford the time, coming back to a backlog of work, the issues you have raised are so interesting I just could not resist. I am touched – for a Gursikh of your calibre to say this is, indeed, a humbling experience – and I mean it. I know there is a lot of false humility today but in my later years I feel I must come to terms with my own spirituality before judging others, especially in the light of the research and reading I have had to undertake in writing the articles on the five negative traits in human nature. Tejwant Ji, although I am back I have to contend with a lot of backlog and, therefore, may not be as active on the forum as I would like to be. [B]Please forgive me if I cannot always respond to your observations immediately.[/B] I do stand corrected on the assumption re: your comments alluding to my earlier post to Lee Ji. But, you can always question my views where they are vague – after all we are brothers - sons of the same father Guru Gobind Singh Ji. [FONT=Verdana]Tejwant Ji, let me make it very clear at the outset that I am not politically orientated or motivated and that your knowledge of Jathedars’ misdemeanors (naughty misdeeds as you put it) and political movements in <st1:place w:st="on">Punjab is far superior to mine. I am more aligned to the spiritual quest – as Lee Ji succintly put it [B]“that my love for the destination is far greater than my love for the path”[/B][/FONT][FONT=Verdana]and also as I earlier confessed to Narayanjot Kaur Ji, that, at 68, time is running out for me and I must prepare myself to meet my Lord (I pray and hope Guru Ji will by my ‘shepherd’ and He will give me refuge at his lotus feet)[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]I totally agree.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]I think we all have our own take on the meaning of some words – e.g. judgmental – the term appears to have strong negative connotations, I agree. Is it always bad to be judgmental? Does being critical also imply being judgmental? I am only thinking aloud and not implying anything. What did Bhagat Kabir mean when he said? [/FONT] [I][FONT=Verdana]Dharam raa-ay jab laykhaa maagai ki-aa mukh lai kai jaahigaa.[/FONT][/I][I] [FONT=Tahoma]When the Righteous Judge of Dharma calls for your account, what face will you show Him then? (SGGS 1106)[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]And Guru Nanak said: [/FONT] [I][FONT=Verdana]Karmee kamree hoey vichaar. [/FONT][/I] [FONT=Tahoma]By our deeds and actions we shall be judged.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Please forgive me for only quoting one-liners as this post is already getting long, but these are well known [I]panktis[/I]. I think this would be a great topic for a separate essay/discussion and we cannot do justice to it by making comments in passing – perhaps leave it to another day.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]I do not believe God metes out punishment as we see it. [B]We are responsible for our own actions and reap what be sow (Japji Sahib Pauri 20).[/B][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]I remember, vaguely, reading your dialogue with Satyaben Ji sometimes ago and much of what you wrote then made sense. Again, there is a lot to discuss and debate here. I am struggling just to understand the teachings of the Sikh Gurus, and there is little time left to explore other faiths. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Couldn’t agree more with you.[/FONT] [I][FONT=Verdana]jaisaa baalak bhaa-ay subhaa-ee lakh apraadh kamaavai.[/FONT][/I] [FONT=Verdana][I]kar up[U]d[/U]ays jhirhkay baho bhaatee bahurh pitaa gal laavai.[/I][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]A child, in innocence and naivety, makes numerous mistakes. His father would many times, admonish him and instruct him, but will still hug him close in his embrace[/FONT][FONT=Verdana] (SGGS 624).[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]No, I haven’t ji. I have read about the bigamist Jathedar. I am afraid I cannot form an opinion without knowing the full facts. /FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Bigamy is illegal as per our man-made laws (excluding Islamic Law). It is, I think, against the Sikhi Sidhant as it would normally be driven by lust. Can it be justified under exceptional circumstances, e.g. childless marriage, need for a [I]waaris[/I] to carry the family name forward? Many would point out that [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]some Sikh Gurus had more than one [I]mehal[/I]. However, during Sikh weddings we emphasis Guru Amar Das Ji’s teachings that a true marriage is a fusion of two souls – ‘two bodies one soul phenomenon’. Again, this is a huge topic in it self. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]My approach and views expressed above are more in the [B]philosophical vein[/B] [B]rather than a political one[/B]. I admit that Akal Takht cannot please all the people all the time, even when good honest people are at the helm but we must review the procedure of these appointments and ensure they are not politically motivated. How we do that? I do not know, but I accept there is no smoke without fire and the current regime has a lot to answer for and must sort itself out. However, many argue that there is a tendency amongst people to accept the Hukamnamas that suit them and reject the others (I am not referring to the one relevant to Prof Sahib)[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Again. I agree – this is the real essence of humility.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]I did not imply you were part of the administration and the comments were definitely not aimed at you. It was only a general observation and not a criticism of any one in particular. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]There was no inference about the administration not being fair-minded. To the contrary both Narayanjot Kaur Ji and Aman Singh Ji have been nothing but kind to me and have always shown their appreciation for my humble efforts. I may not always agree with their views but I respect them. Occasionally I may wish to ask them to consider their views on a certain issue, with appropriate and constructive persuasion, as they are open-minded individuals. I may even request them, occasionally, not to lean too much towards one side of an argument and shoot down the other party – although I must add that they are very even handed and allow a lot of latitude to members to express their views, which is sometimes abused. The job of a moderator is certainly not an easy one.[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana] [I]“As to the current issue only time will tell but I feel confident good reason will prevail (call it naïve or whatever) in the end and the advocates of radical action to divide the Panth may have to wait another day.”[/I] you wrote:[/FONT] [I][FONT=Verdana]Arshi ji,[/FONT][/I][/quote][/FONT][/I][FONT=Verdana][I][/I][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]I have already commented on Hukamnamas above. I am not going to choose sides on the current Hukamnama against Prof Ji without knowing more about the issues and allow the ‘warring’ sides more time to resolve their differences. My comments were made in good faith for the wellbeing of the Panth based on the belief that Guru Ji will intervene through well meaning agencies to reopen the dialogue and set up a plan to review the issues which are dividing the Panth – call it wishful thinking, but stranger things have happened. Please do not read too much into my comments, which are made with a clear conscious and without leaning to one side or the other.[/FONT] [I][FONT=Verdana]Also, please elaborate the above. Moderation and restraint by whom? Only the ones in power can do that. The powerless have no voice, no power.[/FONT][/I][/quote] [/FONT][/I][FONT=Verdana][/FONT] ]Strange comment ji, as if there is a military dictatorship and a curfew. Surely we are all brothers and there must be ways and means of influencing each other. I don’t believe Ragi Ji is powerless and has no voice. He has thousands of well-wishers, me included. I feel confident something will transpire, it has to, for the sake of our wonderful faith – you may if you wish call this as wishful thinking – I will understand. [/FONT] [/FONT][/I][FONT=Verdana][/FONT] [/FONT][/I] [FONT=Verdana]I confess I do not know Mr Lamba at all and do not visit his site (accept when referenced here). If what you claim is right (and I do not doubt your sincerity’), of course it is wrong, in fact fraudulent. It occurs in commercial organisatons, but human nature as it is it spares no one. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Only yesterday in <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">London</st1:city>, I ran into the current MD and his deputy and a past MD. The past MD, who was only visiting, saw me, from a distance, and as it is his nature, jokingly quipped “Where is your dagger?” To which I replied, in humour, “Don’t worry, I am a fully subscribed member of the Sikh Fraternity and know exactly where to lay my hands on when needed, you are warned.” Everyone laughed and the deputy MD said “Rajinder, only yesterday I saw a Sikh judge dressed very much like you (referring to the suit, the tie and the Kenyan style turban) and he spoke just like you with the same humility and accent”. “Of course, I said you are referring to Sir Mota Singh, who has been recently knighted, and I am proud to say I know him personally and our families have known each other since the Kenyan days.” /FONT] [FONT=Verdana]It made me proud to be a Sikh, I must confess, not that I doubt Sikhi at any time. All these comments came as a result of Sir Mota Singh’s support for the right of amritdhari Sikhs to wear the kirpan in schools, in the work place and public places where they may be restrictions. Now just imagine if Sikhs were seen on the TV knocking off each others turban and wielding swords, this would weaken our case and affect a lot of Sikhs, in particular amritdhari Sikhs. With the media as it is news travel fast. This would do immense damage to our interests. [B]In view of the comments you have made regarding the inefficiency of those in control and power, could we afford to take the risk.[/B] It is one thing accusing each other within the family (internal squabbles) but when we make an exhibition of ourselves on the world scene it harms the whole Sikh Nation and takes us back years in terms of progress and promoting our beliefs. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]On a personal note, as I have said before, I have high regard for you and, in particular, admire your straightforwardness and candid manner, which is much lacking these days. You have been very kind and supportive of my writings. I am more comfortable writing on spirituality and doing kirtan, whenever the opportunity arises, in my spare time. Please do take my comments as made in all honesty and not as a direct criticism of you or your views, and as you sometimes say, I am only thinking aloud and not making any dogmatic inferences. I often do say things off guard in the comfort I am amongst brothers and sisters, one big family of Dasam Pita Guru Gobind Singh Ji. /FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Please forgive me for any errors or incorrect interpretation of your comments. Please do not feel obliged to respond in detail as I have only tried to clarify your points on request. If I do not respond quickly, it will not be due to lack of will or courtesy but because of time constraints. Hope I have not given any offence. If inadvertently, I have, please accept my apologies in advance.[/FONT] Kind regards, Rajinder Singh ‘Arshi’[/FONT][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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