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ਰਾਗੁ ਸਿਰੀਰਾਗੁ | Raag Siree-Raag
Gurbani (14-53)
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Pahre (74-78)
Chhant (78-81)
Vanjara (81-82)
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Bhagat Bani (91-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਝ | Raag Maajh
Gurbani (94-109)
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Ashtpadi (129-130)
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Bara Maha (133-136)
Din Raen (136-137)
Vaar Maajh Ki (137-150)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ | Raag Gauree
Gurbani (151-185)
Quartets/Couplets (185-220)
Ashtpadiyan (220-234)
Karhalei (234-235)
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Gauree kii Vaar (300-323)
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Baavan Akhari (340-343)
Thintteen (343-344)
Vaar Kabir (344-345)
Bhagat Bani (345-346)
ਰਾਗੁ ਆਸਾ | Raag Aasaa
Gurbani (347-348)
Chaupaday (348-364)
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Kaafee (365-409)
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Patee (432-435)
Chhant (435-462)
Vaar Aasaa (462-475)
Bhagat Bani (475-488)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੂਜਰੀ | Raag Goojaree
Gurbani (489-503)
Ashtpadiyan (503-508)
Vaar Gujari (508-517)
Vaar Gujari (517-526)
ਰਾਗੁ ਦੇਵਗੰਧਾਰੀ | Raag Dayv-Gandhaaree
Gurbani (527-536)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਹਾਗੜਾ | Raag Bihaagraa
Gurbani (537-556)
Chhant (538-548)
Vaar Bihaagraa (548-556)
ਰਾਗੁ ਵਡਹੰਸ | Raag Wadhans
Gurbani (557-564)
Ashtpadiyan (564-565)
Chhant (565-575)
Ghoriaan (575-578)
Alaahaniiaa (578-582)
Vaar Wadhans (582-594)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੋਰਠਿ | Raag Sorath
Gurbani (595-634)
Asatpadhiya (634-642)
Vaar Sorath (642-659)
ਰਾਗੁ ਧਨਾਸਰੀ | Raag Dhanasaree
Gurbani (660-685)
Astpadhiya (685-687)
Chhant (687-691)
Bhagat Bani (691-695)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਤਸਰੀ | Raag Jaitsree
Gurbani (696-703)
Chhant (703-705)
Vaar Jaitsaree (705-710)
Bhagat Bani (710)
ਰਾਗੁ ਟੋਡੀ | Raag Todee
ਰਾਗੁ ਬੈਰਾੜੀ | Raag Bairaaree
ਰਾਗੁ ਤਿਲੰਗ | Raag Tilang
Gurbani (721-727)
Bhagat Bani (727)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸੂਹੀ | Raag Suhi
Gurbani (728-750)
Ashtpadiyan (750-761)
Kaafee (761-762)
Suchajee (762)
Gunvantee (763)
Chhant (763-785)
Vaar Soohee (785-792)
Bhagat Bani (792-794)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ | Raag Bilaaval
Gurbani (795-831)
Ashtpadiyan (831-838)
Thitteen (838-840)
Vaar Sat (841-843)
Chhant (843-848)
Vaar Bilaaval (849-855)
Bhagat Bani (855-858)
ਰਾਗੁ ਗੋਂਡ | Raag Gond
Gurbani (859-869)
Ashtpadiyan (869)
Bhagat Bani (870-875)
ਰਾਗੁ ਰਾਮਕਲੀ | Raag Ramkalee
Ashtpadiyan (902-916)
Gurbani (876-902)
Anand (917-922)
Sadd (923-924)
Chhant (924-929)
Dakhnee (929-938)
Sidh Gosat (938-946)
Vaar Ramkalee (947-968)
ਰਾਗੁ ਨਟ ਨਾਰਾਇਨ | Raag Nat Narayan
Gurbani (975-980)
Ashtpadiyan (980-983)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਲੀ ਗਉੜਾ | Raag Maalee Gauraa
Gurbani (984-988)
Bhagat Bani (988)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਾਰੂ | Raag Maaroo
Gurbani (889-1008)
Ashtpadiyan (1008-1014)
Kaafee (1014-1016)
Ashtpadiyan (1016-1019)
Anjulian (1019-1020)
Solhe (1020-1033)
Dakhni (1033-1043)
ਰਾਗੁ ਤੁਖਾਰੀ | Raag Tukhaari
Bara Maha (1107-1110)
Chhant (1110-1117)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕੇਦਾਰਾ | Raag Kedara
Gurbani (1118-1123)
Bhagat Bani (1123-1124)
ਰਾਗੁ ਭੈਰਉ | Raag Bhairo
Gurbani (1125-1152)
Partaal (1153)
Ashtpadiyan (1153-1167)
ਰਾਗੁ ਬਸੰਤੁ | Raag Basant
Gurbani (1168-1187)
Ashtpadiyan (1187-1193)
Vaar Basant (1193-1196)
ਰਾਗੁ ਸਾਰਗ | Raag Saarag
Gurbani (1197-1200)
Partaal (1200-1231)
Ashtpadiyan (1232-1236)
Chhant (1236-1237)
Vaar Saarang (1237-1253)
ਰਾਗੁ ਮਲਾਰ | Raag Malaar
Gurbani (1254-1293)
Partaal (1265-1273)
Ashtpadiyan (1273-1278)
Chhant (1278)
Vaar Malaar (1278-91)
Bhagat Bani (1292-93)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਾਨੜਾ | Raag Kaanraa
Gurbani (1294-96)
Partaal (1296-1318)
Ashtpadiyan (1308-1312)
Chhant (1312)
Vaar Kaanraa
Bhagat Bani (1318)
ਰਾਗੁ ਕਲਿਆਨ | Raag Kalyaan
Gurbani (1319-23)
Ashtpadiyan (1323-26)
ਰਾਗੁ ਪ੍ਰਭਾਤੀ | Raag Prabhaatee
Gurbani (1327-1341)
Ashtpadiyan (1342-51)
ਰਾਗੁ ਜੈਜਾਵੰਤੀ | Raag Jaijaiwanti
Gurbani (1352-53)
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Sehskritee Mahala 1
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Gaathaa Mahala 5
Phunhay Mahala 5
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Swaiyyae in Praise of Gurus
Shaloks in Addition To Vaars
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<blockquote data-quote="Boota" data-source="post: 49243" data-attributes="member: 4092"><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><a href="http://www.hindusikh.org/index2.html" target="_blank">Untitled Document</a></span></strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">The site is full of propoganda desgines to undermine Sikhism.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">There are many articles such as this one;</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>All ten Gurus marriages were conducted by Hindu pandits and they were married within Hindu rituals, as were other Sikhs until the Anand Karaj Act was passed in 1909. </em></span></strong><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></strong></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></strong></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>The Laava written by teh 4th Guru Ram Dass were about mans spiritual union wiv god, which can never be BROKEN, not about a union between man and woman! </em></span></strong></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></strong></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></strong></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>-------------</em></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>The Guru Granth Sahib contains around 15,028 of references to Hindu concepts and the names of Hindu gods. </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>A near-exact count is given in K.P. Agrawala: Adi Shrî Gurû Granth Sâhib kî Mahimâ (Hindi: “The greatness of the original sacred Guru scripture”), p.2, and in Ram Swarup: “Hindu roots of Sikhism”, Indian Express, </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>The name of the Hindu god Shri Ram, is recited 2,400 times, (the gods name whose constant repetition leads to salvation). </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>Hari (Vishnu) over 8,300 times, 630 times by Guru Nanak alone, </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>Parabrahman, 550 times, Omkara, (the primeval sound of OM) 400 times. </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>Please note the names of countless other Hindu gods are also mentioned and are one and the same. </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>In contrast the name Mohammed is never mentioned and the name allah is used but a couple of times, merely as an example. It is interesting to note that the Granth itself contains banis from seven of the sikh gurus, two muslim Sufis, but EIGHTEEN Hindu saints and pandits. </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>The religious source of Sikhism is Hinduism, Sikhism is a tradition developed within Hinduism. Guru Granth Sahib reflect Vedantic philosophy, the Vedanta of Rishi Vedvyas who wrote the Mahabharat. The Japji Sahib is based on Upanishads. </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>Summary : </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>IN 1500 , Guru Nanak Dev Ji ( 1469-1538 ad.), went to bathe in a stream and was missing for three days.His first statement when he came out was “neti, neti " (neither here, nor there from the Upanishads-Vedas) na koi hindu, na koi turkh, kudrat keh hain sab bandey". </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>...three days is a short time if you want to free yourself from acquired physics and start a new religion... the insight with which he came back with after three days retreat, as quoted by Khushwant Singh was entirely within Hindu tradition: </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>" their is no muslim, no hindu" it does not mean that I Nanak, am neither hindu or muslim, it means that the self ( atma , timeless indweller, the object of this mystical experience) is beyond worldly divisions.... </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>”the self is neither black nor white, neither hindu nor muslim, neither this nor that : neti, neti ,” is the Upanishadic phrase from the Vedas, is as typically Hindu as you can get’’ </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>Guru Nanak Dev Ji, continued the bhakti methods of the saints before him, starting with the oral repetition of the name "Rama Nama' </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>If Guru Nanak Dev Ji’s discovery " neither hindu nor muslim" had meant a positive conclusion, wouldn’t he have said: "neither Hindu, nor Muslim , sab Sikh? </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>It is strange that the statement used by many to say, he founded a new religion does not even mention this new religion? </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>Ek Om Kar, was already there in the Vedas - Hindu text, it is still there today. Ek = single OM = supreme being KAR= sound. Guru Nanak merely emphasised that particular path. Ek Om Kar is originally a Hindu concept. some Sikh separatists like to say EK ‘ON’KAR! what does ‘on’ mean? </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>Guru Angad was a devoted worshipper of the Goddess Durga. Every year he used to lead a group of devotees from Khadur Sahib, where he had settled, to the temple of Jwalamukhi in the lower Himalayas. In 1532 ad he met Guru Nanak at Kartarpur (pakistan) on his way to Jwalamukhi and became his disciple. Guru Nanak was most impressed with the devotion and selfless services of Lehna, that he proclaimed him as his successor guru in ad1539. As Nanak had previously embraced him, and because of the touch with his body e.g. "ang", he changed the name of Lehna to Angad, Guru Angad made Khadur sahib his headquarters. Humayun, the Mughal emperor called on him here and paid him homage. </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>Sikhs were always known as a sect of Hinduism, which is why they continued celebrating traditional Hindu festivals such as Rakhri, Diwali, Lohri, Vaisakhi, Dusshera and Holi. Unlike the Hindus who became known as muslims and started celebrating muslim festivals. If indeed the Gurus wanted to create a new religion, would they not have created religious festivals to coincide and mark this new religions separate? </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>Hindus and the Hindus who later became known as Sikhs, would worship together at Hari(Vishnu)-mandir Sahib, aptly named by the fourth guru Ram Dass,(1574-1581), it housed murtis of Lord Shiva, Lord Vishnu and the 6th Guru Harigobind until 1906 and is today known as the golden temple. </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>Some closed minded bigots refer to Hindus as Idol worshippers, but Idol worshiping is truly something that we do not do, we worship with great vigor, with heart and soul. </em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em></em></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><em>Idol-worshipping is an offensive and derogatory term used by the British during the British Raj through shear ignorance to degrade our ancient religion. We use Murtis to help us worship we do not specifically worship these images, we use these as focal points to help us worship god.</em></span></span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">http://hindusikh.myfastforum.org/ftopic32.php</span></strong></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></strong> </p><p></p><p></p><p>----------------------------------------</p><p>----------------------------------------</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Boota, post: 49243, member: 4092"] [B][FONT=Verdana][url=http://www.hindusikh.org/index2.html]Untitled Document[/url][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Verdana]The site is full of propoganda desgines to undermine Sikhism.[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Verdana]There are many articles such as this one;[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Verdana][B][FONT=Verdana][I]All ten Gurus marriages were conducted by Hindu pandits and they were married within Hindu rituals, as were other Sikhs until the Anand Karaj Act was passed in 1909. [/I][/FONT][/B][B][FONT=Verdana] [I]The Laava written by teh 4th Guru Ram Dass were about mans spiritual union wiv god, which can never be BROKEN, not about a union between man and woman! -------------[/I][/FONT][/B][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][FONT=Verdana] [I]The Guru Granth Sahib contains around 15,028 of references to Hindu concepts and the names of Hindu gods. A near-exact count is given in K.P. Agrawala: Adi Shrî Gurû Granth Sâhib kî Mahimâ (Hindi: “The greatness of the original sacred Guru scripture”), p.2, and in Ram Swarup: “Hindu roots of Sikhism”, Indian Express, The name of the Hindu god Shri Ram, is recited 2,400 times, (the gods name whose constant repetition leads to salvation). Hari (Vishnu) over 8,300 times, 630 times by Guru Nanak alone, Parabrahman, 550 times, Omkara, (the primeval sound of OM) 400 times. Please note the names of countless other Hindu gods are also mentioned and are one and the same. In contrast the name Mohammed is never mentioned and the name allah is used but a couple of times, merely as an example. It is interesting to note that the Granth itself contains banis from seven of the sikh gurus, two muslim Sufis, but EIGHTEEN Hindu saints and pandits. The religious source of Sikhism is Hinduism, Sikhism is a tradition developed within Hinduism. Guru Granth Sahib reflect Vedantic philosophy, the Vedanta of Rishi Vedvyas who wrote the Mahabharat. The Japji Sahib is based on Upanishads. Summary : IN 1500 , Guru Nanak Dev Ji ( 1469-1538 ad.), went to bathe in a stream and was missing for three days.His first statement when he came out was “neti, neti " (neither here, nor there from the Upanishads-Vedas) na koi hindu, na koi turkh, kudrat keh hain sab bandey". ...three days is a short time if you want to free yourself from acquired physics and start a new religion... the insight with which he came back with after three days retreat, as quoted by Khushwant Singh was entirely within Hindu tradition: " their is no muslim, no hindu" it does not mean that I Nanak, am neither hindu or muslim, it means that the self ( atma , timeless indweller, the object of this mystical experience) is beyond worldly divisions.... ”the self is neither black nor white, neither hindu nor muslim, neither this nor that : neti, neti ,” is the Upanishadic phrase from the Vedas, is as typically Hindu as you can get’’ Guru Nanak Dev Ji, continued the bhakti methods of the saints before him, starting with the oral repetition of the name "Rama Nama' If Guru Nanak Dev Ji’s discovery " neither hindu nor muslim" had meant a positive conclusion, wouldn’t he have said: "neither Hindu, nor Muslim , sab Sikh? It is strange that the statement used by many to say, he founded a new religion does not even mention this new religion? Ek Om Kar, was already there in the Vedas - Hindu text, it is still there today. Ek = single OM = supreme being KAR= sound. Guru Nanak merely emphasised that particular path. Ek Om Kar is originally a Hindu concept. some Sikh separatists like to say EK ‘ON’KAR! what does ‘on’ mean? Guru Angad was a devoted worshipper of the Goddess Durga. Every year he used to lead a group of devotees from Khadur Sahib, where he had settled, to the temple of Jwalamukhi in the lower Himalayas. In 1532 ad he met Guru Nanak at Kartarpur (pakistan) on his way to Jwalamukhi and became his disciple. Guru Nanak was most impressed with the devotion and selfless services of Lehna, that he proclaimed him as his successor guru in ad1539. As Nanak had previously embraced him, and because of the touch with his body e.g. "ang", he changed the name of Lehna to Angad, Guru Angad made Khadur sahib his headquarters. Humayun, the Mughal emperor called on him here and paid him homage. Sikhs were always known as a sect of Hinduism, which is why they continued celebrating traditional Hindu festivals such as Rakhri, Diwali, Lohri, Vaisakhi, Dusshera and Holi. Unlike the Hindus who became known as muslims and started celebrating muslim festivals. If indeed the Gurus wanted to create a new religion, would they not have created religious festivals to coincide and mark this new religions separate? Hindus and the Hindus who later became known as Sikhs, would worship together at Hari(Vishnu)-mandir Sahib, aptly named by the fourth guru Ram Dass,(1574-1581), it housed murtis of Lord Shiva, Lord Vishnu and the 6th Guru Harigobind until 1906 and is today known as the golden temple. Some closed minded bigots refer to Hindus as Idol worshippers, but Idol worshiping is truly something that we do not do, we worship with great vigor, with heart and soul. Idol-worshipping is an offensive and derogatory term used by the British during the British Raj through shear ignorance to degrade our ancient religion. We use Murtis to help us worship we do not specifically worship these images, we use these as focal points to help us worship god.[/I][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][I][/I][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][B][FONT=Verdana]http://hindusikh.myfastforum.org/ftopic32.php[/FONT][/B][/FONT] [/FONT][/B][B][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/B] ---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- [/QUOTE]
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