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Controversial 108 Beads or 108 Lies?

Discussion in 'Hard Talk' started by Kanwaljit Singh, Dec 19, 2015.

  1. Kanwaljit Singh

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    Source: http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Significance_of_the_number_108

    Is there any truth in the above description?

    Also check out the whole Wiki page, most of the article is filled with Hindu beliefs around no. 108.

    Why would a Sikh concern thyself with numbers when it all collapses down to ONE?
     
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    Is there any mention of 108 beads in SGGS?
     
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    I dont understand the point .. even if we prove that this number has some significance then what ? Does that will prove that sikh religionfoundation members were good mathematicians ? I think the same i have seen in some gurdwara's where people do this "lari" of path's sitting in one big room .. ;-) i think these all are number traps ;-) .. lets stay out of it i guess.
     
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    Indeed! I think the point being made in the OP is that the Sikhiwiki page appears to be pro-108 beads, when in fact it means nothing in Sikhi.
     
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    I appears to me that the page is just a stockpile on information about 108 beads. I don't think anyone has done any work on the page yet.

    Create an account, start fixing the page. That's the beauty of wiki. All it needs is a statement at the beginning about how Gurbani rejects a physical mala and that the following references are historical based on Sanatan Dharma.
     
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    Sikhiwiki is just a stockpile of information in general, not necessarily related to Sikhi. The connection here seems to be that the belief hails from the subcontinent. They also have a page on the Mirza, Sahiban love story. I guess the connection there is Punjabi culture.
     
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    Didn't I read somewhere that Baba Deep Singh Ji do 108 japji Sahibs in a single day??
     
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    Yes but he was following a discipline. He was not trying to achieve a 'boon'. And the story is told to inspire people to do at least one Japuji daily. Many other Sikh personalities did Japuji Sahib multiple times during the day.
     
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    If he had done 107 or 109 japji Sahibs, would it have made a difference?

    Similarly if there are 8.5 lakh janoons instead of 8.4, does it really matter?

    The number itself is trivial.
     
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    there is no mention of 108 in sggs.
    secondly there are many types of rosaries mentioned in mahan kosh.
    muslims have their number, hindus have two, christians have their number
    sikhs have no mechanical rosary. in sikhi the mind is the rosary, because sikhi calls for reciting the name of God all the time. it is countless. therefore no rosary required, nor there is any
     
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    But the reason I brought it up was that it 108... why 108?? Why not 100 which would be a more rounded number? Was there significance to 108??
     
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    Because 108 is a magical number in Hinduism?
     
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    YES!
     
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    In Jap ji, Guru Nanak -the wordsmith-eliminated all the number business by changing
    ਸੰਖ into ਅਸੰਖ. The latter means countless.

    Secondly, claiming and then even worse believing in that Baba Deep Singh did 108 Jap ji in one day is not Gurmat according to SGGS, our only Guru.

    The irony of all this is that it is said that Baba Deep Singh did 108 Jap ji in one day and in this very Jap ji, Guru Nanak eliminated the number game as mentioned before.

    This proves when the Sakhis that do not jive with Gurmat values should be rejected vehemently.
     
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    Actually 1 and 0 depict the binary nature of everything we see and 8 is the infinite nature of what we are. So much to say in short form 108.
     

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