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Old 30-Jan-2012, 05:07 AM
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Throughout the bani, it repeatedly tells us to meditate,meditate on the true lord.

Often wonder if i'm doing it correctly in the right way. I know that it is not simply repeating paath or bani in parrot fashion whilst my mind maybe elsewhere. But, I have to focus my mind by completely emptying it and blanking from all thoughts and just retaining the true naam- this is easier said than done.

Does anyone know the best way? I'm not asking for a quick fix/ one step solution, I know it takes effort and time.
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Does the way we breathe,sit or conduct ourselves as described in yoga practices affect the real joyful experience we are meant to attain with the supreme God?
How do we know if we are doing it correctly?

How do I eliminate every single thought going through my mind-when naturally our God given minds and brains process hundreds of thoughts per minute. I know complete detachment from the surroundings is only experienced once the daily thoughts are eradicated.

I would appreciate advice and references that are in guidlines with sikhism, as I know there are many available but most go off on tangents into pure yoga practices of some sort.

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Re: Meditate-How,what,where and when?

Ahhh Luckysinghji

I could post a link to some articles, but I am not sure you would read it
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Not all Sikhs are big on meditation, I for one, do not meditate, the meditation master here is dear Bhagat Singhji who will no doubt once he reads your post reply to your request.
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I find meditating wastes time I could be spending either doing sewa, or understanding Bani, but that is my opinion only, and like reincarnation, one in which I am a minority
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Old 30-Jan-2012, 20:07 PM
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Re: Meditate-How,what,where and when?

First it is important to know who is true LORD.According to Gurbanee the true LORD is NAAMu onlly.So from Gurbanee one should try to know this True LORD.
Once you get to know true LORD then request this True LORD to guide you about what you want to know.I am sure this True LORD would give answers to ll offyour questions.
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I belive any answers given by any persons are views subject to so many ifs and buts.But the answers by true LORD are beyond any doubts.

So get to know your TRUE LORD from Gurbanee.

Prakash.S.Bagga
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Re: Meditate - How, What, Where and When?

As a basic:

Spiritual Experience of Naam Simran
Link: http://www.panthrattan.com/simran/simran2.pdf
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Discovery of Self through Naam-Simran

Link: http://www.panthrattan.com/simran/simran1.pdf
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Re: Meditate - How, What, Where and When?

Meditation is much more than simple repetition.

While there are considerations to be taken into account physically, much more important is your mind. Meditation begins with focusing the mind on a single object. Often this can be achieved for certain other religions by concentrating on the image of Buddha or Christ, etc. With Muslims and Sikhs alike, the single object can be a feeling; often, the chosen feeling will be cosmic or theistic harmony.
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Concentrate on your love for God in a Wahe Guru sort of way. Whatever helps free the rest of your mind to meditate is fine. Begin exploring the spaces not used in your concentration.

Of course, breathing should be taken into account. Posture that is comfortable is what is proper. There are no specific poses you should assume. Often people (esp. Yogis) will become steeped in the physical. You spend too much time straining muscles and worrying with your body that you cannot tap into your mind.

There is no God button. You must look hard inside yourself if you want to find your inner peace. Connecting with this often extends a hand toward Naam.

In short, it is all about mental exploration and relaxation.

God is ever present. Just focus on opening your mind enough to see him.

There are no rules. Just explore.

For some, quiet is best. For some, music is preferred.
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One of the best places I find is in a hot shower. Just sit down and let the water wash over you. Close your eyes and begin to feel.
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Re: Meditate - How, What, Where and When?

The Dark Knight nailed it.

Meditation is simply slowing down the mind and embodying yourself. Through the senses you come to the present moment, and through that you come to the experience of life. ou become a body rather than a floating mind with body as only a transport mechanism. Most people live in their heads (compulsively thinking, obsessively analyzing past and future) which is not only detrimental to health but impedes proper seva, simran, reading, understanding and development of virtues. Meditation not only improves health through stress reduction and peace but there is always a chance that you will realize your True Self on the way which will transform your life. It promotes creativity, productivity and positive emotions in general.

Sikh terms:
Simran is all about increased awareness through attachment with transcendental reality, God. By constant repetition of the word, constantly remind yourself and connect with that reality. Do simran as often as you can until it runs 24/7. Then you will not meditate in life but live in meditation.

Samadhi is the merging of subject (I) and object (what I perceive) and realizing they were never separate in the first place.

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Does the way we breathe,sit or conduct ourselves as described in yoga practices affect the real joyful experience we are meant to attain with the supreme God?
Moving your body and engaging it in meditation helps! I find with yoga you can stretch and strengthen your body while engaging your mind on the sensations that arise in your body. This will not affect your experience of God however. You can sit still everytime or you can move your body or the combination of two.


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How do we know if we are doing it correctly?
There's really no way to do it wrong. Meditation is the return to simply being. We are so used to doing and doing, running after the next thing. When you stop and simply be who you are and sit there in silence, then you can be said to be practicing meditation. But in essence meditation is being and thus there is no right way to be. Being is as it is right now, as you sit there and feel your butt on the chair, feet on the ground, notice the sensations in your feet and hands, notice your breath, notice all the sounds.
There's no way to do that wrong.

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How do I eliminate every single thought going through my mind-when naturally our God given minds and brains process hundreds of thoughts per minute. I know complete detachment from the surroundings is only experienced once the daily thoughts are eradicated.
The best way is to not make this into a goal. Focus on the practice and journey not where you are going to end up.

If you have any other questions let me know.
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Re: Meditate - How, What, Where and When?

Bani is just words as in prayers, if you want to meditate, do what the yogis do.

Meditation is a Hindu thing.. I think you are confused with jaap and meditation. I mean, you can't meditate and read bani at the same time xD
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Bani is just words as in prayers, if you want to meditate, do what the yogis do.

Meditation is a Hindu thing.. I think you are confused with jaap and meditation. I mean, you can't meditate and read bani at the same time xD
Gurfateh

I am sorry, but I'm wise enough to NOT be confused, I know what I'm searching for!!
Meditation does NOT belong to anyone- you can't claim it to be a hindu thing.

I posted my request and have recieved some terrific information from the other SPN colleagues.
Please DO NOT insult my intelligence by telling me that i'm barking up the wrong tree!!!!!!!

I sincerely thank Soul_jyot, Bhagatsingh, Harry and not forgetting the dark night- Batman-- for giving me their useful, well worthy replies so far.

AND more importantly- BANI is NOT, I repeat NOT just words as in prayers.
IF you don't get this, then I'm very sorry for you- I can't even try to explain!!!!!!
PLEASE DO NOT SAY SUCH THINGS ON THIS FORUM.

Waheguru
Lucky Singh
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