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'Sikh' ji pointed about "Janam Sakhis".
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/617-janam-sakhi-are-true-events.html

Considering:
"Janam Sakhis" are not mere stories, actually those are events which truly took place. I tend to agree with this 100%. How do you view these?

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haha,
so once again this debate will start. I hope I dont get banned.

Janam Sakhris are NOT true events, they are scientifically impossible. They were created and designed for the sole purpose to incite courage and other features which the average person could assosciate with.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=617
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=617

I ask you this, if you regard Janam Sakhris as true, then do you regard other stories which various religions state as true also?
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so once again this debate will start. I hope I dont get banned.
Dear S|kh,

Rest assured on above aspect... this forum is for people who like to think aloud with logical reasoning and with good examples to support their arguements. I see no reason for knowledgiable persons like you getting banned from any forums... certainly not in this forum...

Banning is a not a threat in this forum and only members will decide the fate of member up for banning, in an open court.

So, think aloud and share your views and as i like to say... enjoy !!!

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Janam Sakhris are NOT true events, they are scientifically impossible.
I think, correct word is Janam Sakhi instead of Janam Sakhri. Please correct me if needed.

Please cite an example(s) of Janam Sakhi(s) which ones are you talking/doubting about?
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I think, correct word is Janam Sakhi instead of Janam Sakhri. Please correct me if needed.

Please cite an example(s) of Janam Sakhi(s) which ones are you talking/doubting about?
I believe you are correct, sorry for the typo, and thanks for correcting me. I've been typing "Sakhris" for a while and no one bothered to fix me up.

Ok, lets pick a Janam Sakhi to speak of...Baba Deep Singh.
He fought with his head off during battle.

If you believe this to be true, do you also believe the story of Achilles to be true, in which he was almost immortal and only could die if someone stabbed his heel?

You see my point...if you believe the "Sikh-stories", then why don't you believe the others? Or are they not capable of performing such deeds because they were not "Sikhs" ?

I am not saying Baba Deep Singh was never alive, he probably was. And he was probably an extraordinary fighter, and would have won the medal of honor in todays wars. So, when the author of the book wrote down his story, he wanted to amplify Baba Deep Singhs courage, bravery, and skill. It came out perfect, why not say that this man fought without his head, how much bravery does that show, and skill with the sword.

You see? Achilles may as well have existed like that same point.
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S|kh actually the 'story' or Baba Deep Singh ji, has actually been noted down by Muslim historians - as we need to remember tha most of the SIkh history wasn't even written down by Sikhs, but mostly by Muslims and hindus!
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=617
why would muslims want to give credit to a brave Sikh warrior?

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Theres plenty of reasons..
money from selling the book, or perhaps and unbiased opinion of an extraordinary fighter.

You know, theres American books about the "Red Baron" from WWII, and how much of an extraordinary fighter Red Baron. They highlight Red Baron as one of the greatest pilots ever.

Not every muslim or hindu has to hate Sikhs...remember.

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P.S. are you the say Mr.Singh as the other forums...Amardeep on the hub? ;-)
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S|kH ji,
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=617

I see where u coming from.

okay, first of all, let us say 'sikh sakhis' or 'sikh stories' only. 'Janam Sakhi' has a different meaning.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=617

Is this the only sikh story, or there are loads of them, u want to talk about. If yes, just hint on most of those. I am just trying to get the idea of direction of this thread, which it may get into.

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Guru Nanak holding the huge rock boulder with one hand.
Not a true story.

Theres others, which I am sure you are aware of...recall some controvesial ones, and we can debate them.
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