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| | | | | Do Sikhs Believe in Heaven or Hell or Not? Hi, Cutting to the chase do sikhs believe in heaven and hell like if you do bad you go hell, if you do good you go heaven because some sikhs say 'no heaven and hell is on earth and we only believe in reincarnation and your deeds in this life will dertimine how good or bad your next life will be' and then some sikhs say 'yes sikhs do believe in heaven and hell and that if you commit bad deeds you will go to hell and if you commit good deeds you will go to heaven' so im confused with this question? *
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10-Dec-2011, 07:23 AM
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| | | | | Re: Do sikhs believe in heaven or hell or not? Sikhs are humans....why listen to some human ? why not go to the source..the GURU ? The Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji for the true and right answers. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/37721-do-sikhs-believe-heaven-hell-not.html
secondly the GURBANI is for LIVING....so LIVE the WAY Gurbani says..change LIFE accordingly and then decide whether LIFE after is better..is it bliss..is there any improvement ??
GURBANI says we Humans have this Human Birth to REALISE the CREATOR while ALIVE....after death takes over..who knows what happens....so instead of undue concern with the AFTER..Gurbani is more concerned with the HERE and NOW. Sikhi/Gurmatt is for INSTANT REWARDS..( not promised ones later..in return for good deeds, self immolations, suicide bombings, etc etc)....HERE and NOW....a tiny bit of UNDERSTANDING Gurbani and APPLICATION in Life result is instant change in LIFE...little bits of understanding and chnages results in bigger and continious CHANGES..THAT is the WAY of GURMATT. | | The following members appreciate Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Do sikhs believe in heaven or hell or not? Sikhboy11ji,
Hell is here on earth, as is heaven, it is not represented in your physical surroundings, nor your financial state, nor your health, it is all in your head and in your heart, with the right attitude, even being sawn in half can be heaven, provided you are gazing at an object of adoration, provided you know what is important, and what is maya, and what is not Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37721Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37721
Somedays, when our connection to the supreme is weak, we are in hell, we feel fear, anger, loathing, sadness, somedays, we feel so in tune with the supreme, we behave calmly, full of love, no fear, no loathing, no lust, just balanced and content and in wonder, that is heaven | | The following members appreciate harry haller Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Do Sikhs Believe in Heaven or Hell or Not?  harry haller you always speak sense! | | The following member appreciates Sikhboy11 Ji for the above message. | | 
12-Dec-2011, 09:06 AM
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| | | | | Re: Do Sikhs Believe in Heaven or Hell or Not? Quote:
Originally Posted by Sikhboy11  harry haller you always speak sense! |
Thats because Harry is the "Moon"..he simply reflects the Gyaan the SUN sends out.....MOST of US dont bother...while Harry does !! | | The following member appreciates Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Do Sikhs Believe in Heaven or Hell or Not? "...Heaven is not a place and cannot be found on a map; rather it is where God's will is done..." - Pope Benedict XVI "...Our Father who art in Heaven [said Jesus] but what is this – Heaven? And where is Heaven? “… who art in Heaven" – that means: within the saints and within the just. Yes, the heavens are the highest bodies in the universe, but they are still bodies, which cannot exist except in a given location. Yet if we believe that God is located in the heavens, meaning in the highest parts of the world, then the birds would be more fortunate than we, since they would live closer to God. Yet it is not written: ‘The Lord is close to those who dwell on the heights or on the mountains’, but rather: ‘the Lord is close to the brokenhearted’, an expression which refers to humility. Just as the sinner is called ‘Earth’, so by contrast the just man can be called ‘Heaven’..." Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37721 - Saint Augustine of Hippo (354 – 430 AD), Church Father "...If your religious leaders say, 'See, the Kingdom of the Father is in the heavens,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'it is under the earth,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the Kingdom of Heaven is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will find the Kingdom, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty..." - Jesus Christ "...His disciples said to him [Jesus], "When will the Kingdom of Heaven come?" He replied "It will not come by watching for it. It will not be said, 'Look, here!' or 'Look, there!' Rather, the Father's kingdom is spread out upon the earth, and people don't see it..." Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37721 - Jesus Christ "...Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven...." - Jesus Christ (Sermon on the Mount)
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02-Mar-2012, 14:34 PM
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| | | | | Re: Do Sikhs Believe in Heaven or Hell or Not? From Gurbanee it is very clear that there is no HELL for GURMUKH..it is all HEAVEN and HEAVEN only. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37721
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| | | | | Re: Do Sikhs Believe in Heaven or Hell or Not? "...Heaven is not a place and cannot be found on a map; rather it is where God's will is done..." - Pope Benedict XVI I think the above says it well. We can make heaven and hell whatever we want to make of them. It may be benefical for some if they believe or for some it's better if they don't. Whatever brings out the good in us. There is no heaven/hell opposites given by the Gurus in sikhism. It's sometimes easier to think of a heaven as being where one is liberated and has attained mukhti. So, where is the one, if they have not obtained salvation,liberation or mukhti ?Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37721 Well, we could say here on physical earth, we could call it hell if we want or just the opposite of heaven. If God is in all and pervades and permeates everywhere. Then he is not just in a so called heaven. If we become one with the creator you could call it bliss or heaven. If you do not become one and complete, then your here on earth. Everyone of us would have our own perception of heaven/hell if we feel it necessary. If it helps then feel free to accept. As children, whatever we are told in this sense sometimes sticks and stays- it's nice, nothing wrong. My kids believe in a heaven. They also believe in Santa and that he comes from God in heaven down to the North pole to get all the toys and then gives them to the good children.Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37721 A simple fairytale story of Santa gets the kids to behave, know about a true creator, know right/wrong and generally do good!! SIMPLE!!!!
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| | | | | Re: Do sikhs believe in heaven or hell or not? Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyani Jarnail Singh Sikhs are humans....why listen to some human ? why not go to the source..the GURU ? The Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji for the true and right answers.
secondly the GURBANI is for LIVING....so LIVE the WAY Gurbani says..change LIFE accordingly and then decide whether LIFE after is better..is it bliss..is there any improvement ??
GURBANI says we Humans have this Human Birth to REALISE the CREATOR while ALIVE....after death takes over..who knows what happens....so instead of undue concern with the AFTER..Gurbani is more concerned with the HERE and NOW. Sikhi/Gurmatt is for INSTANT REWARDS..( not promised ones later..in return for good deeds, self immolations, suicide bombings, etc etc)....HERE and NOW....a tiny bit of UNDERSTANDING Gurbani and APPLICATION in Life result is instant change in LIFE...little bits of understanding and chnages results in bigger and continious CHANGES..THAT is the WAY of GURMATT.  | I fully agree to above as stated.But what should be the meaning of the word "DARGAH" in Gurbanee.This word is refered in several quotes.?
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