Hukamnama-No different to reading a Horoscope?

Gurfatehji

I would like some clarifiation as to the procedure of Hukamnama. From what I understand, a random page is selected, and the Shabad can provide an answer to a troubling question.

This does not sit hugely well with my interpretation of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as the ultimate book of knowledge and information. This brings a mystical and magical side, almost a ritualistic ceremony to the great book, I would be interested to know the views of others, especially those that , like me, feel the information and guidance contained, read and understood, and then practiced on a daily basis is the way to enlightenment. This seems to cheapen the vast wisdom contained within the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, seems to provide a shortcut that will magically guide you and your problems, without reading or understanding the Shabads either side, or right at the front, or right at the back, I am sure the Gurus did not design the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji so that all the best advice was centred in the middle,
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I would very much like to hear a good explanation of this practice, but in my heart, I cannot seem to balance the pragmatism of reading the information with the idea that thinking of a question is going to enable the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji to answer it with any clarity or point other than one would get from reading a daily horoscope.

 
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Harry ji,
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Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is opened to a random page and a shabad is selected for contemplation. From my experience when the shabad is read with complete focus, it provide answers and understanding to my mind's questions and doubts.
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I am not so sure what you find troubling about this. Is it the reading of a random shabad or opening up Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji to a random page?

PS There is a great deal of mysticism in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Bhagatsinghji

I am aware that there is a great deal of mysticism in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, and I suppose that is what I find troubling, I find the information and guidance contained can stand up on its own, without the need for such mysticism, magic or miracles

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What troubles you when it comes to mysticism and miracles?

Well, I do not believe in either for a start, I find the content enough without the need for a disco ball, a smoke machine and pulling rabbits out of hats.

In order to know mysticism, one must meditate. How are your efforts in meditation?

I do not meditate, wrongly or rightly,

We all take a different view of Sikhi, my view, and it is only a personal view is that there are hard facts contained in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, and that to show our love for Creator and Creation, We must convert these facts into actions, for ourselves , and for those around us

Meditation, in my view, is something I would like to try, but then I am unsure as to what you call meditation,. I think of Creator constantly, talk to Creators essence in my head constantly, I am in my own world a lot of the time, debating issues, attempting to find answers, thinking of questions, all directed at Creator, all answered by Creators essence, sometimes I get a wow moment, when everything falls into place, and I can see the road shining bright ahead, sometimes there is fog.
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What I do not do, is try and get to a higher plane within myself, by chanting or meditating, I have been to enough higher planes in my life that I have learnt to cherish the world, and the earthly plane we call life, and use that solely as my playground

Sounds like mysticism

Maybe, but what I do not do is attempt to cheat the system by looking for shortcuts, or the belief that the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is a magic being that can provide answers to my questions, and that my dear brother is the point of this thread
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Sure, if I embrace the contents and practice them, I will find my answers, I even have no problem opening a random page, and studying that, but the specific asking of a question and then interpretating the Shabad to get an answer seems a bit ritualistic to me, however, I am more than prepared to accept this, if it can be explained that this is fully within the mandate of Sikhi