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Old 06-Jun-2011, 19:16 PM
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My Question is above, how do you prove that God exist ? For example to convert a non-religious to a sikh.
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Re: How do you prove God in Sikhism?

Personally I don't think one should try persuading others into a faith.
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Why would you want to convert a non-religious person when Sikhs believe that we are all equal and that we should respect people regardless of their religious belief... we are all one. Being a Sikh, atheist, agnostic, Jew etc shouldn't make a difference.


I don't think it's possible to prove or disprove God's existence. If you believe in God and you're content with that belief then why would you feel the need to go around 'converting' others...

All you should do is share your beliefs with people, if they want to know, without having the intention to try and make them convert into something that you believe.

One thing you shouldn't do is preach to people or come across arrogant in your views arguing that what you believe is the 'truth' and that you're better than them because you have faith etc. This is a very ugly and annoying trait that I have come across whilst conversing with [some] religious people.
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Re: How do you prove God in Sikhism?

Enlighten Me, I know that... It was only an example, I mean a muslim asked me if he shows me the "Truth" , would I convert to Islam? Then we reached a point, where he said how do you prove god. I told him i feel it, I know God is here. I said everything has a origin... but we can´t prove that origin, because we will never get that smart as god. And don´t you want to show people the "truth", or show them that a God exists? I want to give the people a faith... could it be Islam, Christendom, Judaism or Sikhism.....
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Re: How do you prove God in Sikhism?

How will we know what the 'truth' is?

We can convince ourselves, fool ourselves into thinking that what we believe is the utmost truth but does that really make it true?

Religious discussions are good because they broaden your mind but I wouldn't burden myself thinking I should 'give the people a faith'.

With regard to the Muslim you have spoken to, I disagree with his/her approach. Why does everything have to come back to converting... religion is highly subjective. Don't bother discussing religion with someone so arrogant who will not listen to your point of view but will try their best to convince you that what they believe is 'true' and that everything you stand for is 'wrong'... and you yourself should avoid becoming like that.
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The way I see it is that we're all on a journey, we can't be sure of anything but all you can do is research, debate, question and follow your intuition.

Religion is personal, spiritual... religion isn't a competition, proving one is better than the other... those people that see religion that way do not understand the true meaning of it.

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Re: How do you prove God in Sikhism?

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My Question is above, how do you prove that God exist ? For example to convert a non-religious to a sikh.

You cannot prove that God exists in Sikhism because to define God means you have some comprehension of what God is which in a way kills god. God is unknowable and beyond time and existence.
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Re: How do you prove God in Sikhism?

This question has no basis...its drawing lines in water...the moment you complete one..it disappears...and YET the "line" was clearly viisble at moment of drawing....so will your "proofs" behave the same way...each one will look good for a moment..and then sink..because GOD is the WATER..not the LINES..God is PROOF !!
2. How do you wash a piece of coal so that its blackness disappears and it glows RED ? washing with MILK,,lassee..yoghurt..bleach..whatever will NOT make its blackness go away...BUT return it to the FIRE..and watch it GLOW....Man will GLOW when GOD is close !! The PROOF is FIRE...not the coal and the Coal can only prove it by returning to the FIRE...
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Re: How do you prove God in Sikhism?

FOOD FOR THOUGHT:

Just like you don't see butter in milk. But after churning it you can get butter.
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Similarly WAHEGURU / GOD is present in HIS creation! You need to do regular & extensive churning: seva, simran & sangat with total faith & determination to experience HIM personally!

Every soul has his / her own spiritual life path to WALK, not merely TALK! ( actions , NOT words )! Thus you can eventually find your true life purpose on this earth through Waheguru / God. The key is limitless PATIENCE & PRACTICE !
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My Question is above, how do you prove that God exist ? For example to convert a non-religious to a sikh.
Sikhism is a non-missionary faith. We do not convert, we attract.

Take the example of the Panj Pyaras. They volunteered themselves.
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Re: How do you prove God in Sikhism?

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These are the questions I fire sometimes at atheists:

Before you ask yourself.. is there a God?

You should ask yourself..

Do you believe in Truth?
Do you believe in Knowledge?
Do you believe in Destiny?
Do you believe in Universe?
And its existence?
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Do you believe in Your existence?
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Yes, you do believe in God!
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