Meat - Is It Against Sikhi?

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In this context, What is meat? I mean definition!

Is Meat Against Sikhi?


Although, I have no problems with vegetarians or meat-eaters, I have come to the conclusion that the ritual of eating meat / or refraining from meat is no way connected to spirituality.

Guru Nanak stated it, that the fools argue over meat.
Guru Gobind hunted meat, whether he ate it or not is up to debate, but yes, he did kill it, yes he did seek it out, yes he did hunt it.

Some people are happy that they can refrain from eating meat, and feel as if its more religious, something that makes them "better"

This is nonsense. If you choose not to eat meat, so be it, all the best of luck to you, but dont eat meat because you think harming animals is wrong. Do not do it because you think you will reach another level of spirituality.

If you choose to eat meat, so be it, dont eat it because you think the Sikhs from back in the day did it, and its tradition that must be followed and if you follow them step by step, you will be higher spiritually.

All nonsense, the Guru made no distinct position on meat at all.

Some may argue from the above that "Kesh" can be seen the same way, that some people feel more spiritual keeping kesh then others, and its a thing that is needed. Let me remind you, Kesh is sacred to the Khalsa, and the Guru took a firm position on what the Khalsa should be and what it meant. Therefore, that is easily refuted.

Anyways, please continue to discuss, and if you have solid proof, provide it.
And please, do not leave responses like "AKJ or such and such Jatha told us not to" or "Bhindranwale condemned meat" and etc.
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Logic, and Reason and Gurbani quotes please

Hmm, what is meat..

I dont know :x

What do you think it is?

That was exactly my reason of asking this question.

I saw at www.dictionary.com and the meanings matching your query were as follows:
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1. The edible flesh of animals, especially that of mammals as opposed to that of fish or poultry.
2. The edible part, as of a piece of fruit or a nut.

Extend the awareness, omnipresence, feelings into each and every particle in this universe, that way you will find that we ALL end up killing some or other one for our survival.
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If we limit the meaning of meat to first definition only, that is due to our sensitivity level. Heard of monks, who cover their mouth, so that jeev in air dont get killed while speaking!!! Just different levels of perception and sensitivity.

Personally, anything offered on my plate to eat, I should eat.

Dear members,

Whenever we eat we terminate some form of life either in plant kingdom or in animal kingdom. One must eat which your conscience permits and which agree with you body constitution. Taking from nature more than what one needs (over eating) or wasting food is a sin because then one is damaging the nature more then what one needs to live a healthy life.
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What to eat or not to eat is not a matter to be decided by religion. I agree with the view that it has nothing to do with spirituality.

Sikhs can eat meat if they want.

With love and respect for all.

Amarpal

'Sikhs can eat meat if they want.' - I wont say that with an authority.

Considering - you are what you eat! Perhaps, it is observed that people intaking meat from animal kingdom are more prone to more heart diseases, agression etc. On the other side, people intaking from plant kingdom exhibit calm and quiet outlook. I may be wrong though. I do agree about things going wrong when any of these things take place i.e. over-eating, wasting food, killing just for pleasure!

Animals have emotions and often they are scared during their last minutes, which means that you consume their stress hormones too.
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I see that it is impossible to not live off other live, but I try to live off live causing the least amount of pain and suffering

Dear Members,I hold the opinion that there is nothing wrong in eating what is edible and in accepted by your constitution of the body.

No body in this world is perfect vegetarian. The first nurishment which every one gets after birth, in strict sense of the term, is non-vegetarian - the mother's milk. The curds that people eat have live becteria multiplying in it. Honey too is non-vegetarian and is snatched from poor helpless bees, as cows milk is snatched from the calf, who are the rightful owner of it. i do not know if the vegetarians are not sinners.

When I have the option, I too take vegetarian food, this is because the life has not yet manifested in it. For me egg and grain both are same, they have suspended life in it and has manifested yet. when I do not have the option I have no hesitation in eating meat.

I think some religions have made life difficult for its followers by going too much in details to tell what should be done and what is not to be done, when to eat and what to eat, with which hand to eat etc, etc - they had made their religion mechanical. All these thing are not necessary. These selections are the consequence of spirituality and enlightenment, they are not the causes of it.
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We must put efforts to elevate ourselves spiritually, all other things will follow on their own.
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With Love and Respect for all

Amarpal.