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| | | | | Who are Sikhs according to the Siri Guru Granth Sahib? Sat Sri Akaal, Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/26531-who-sikhs-according-siri-guru-granth.html
I would like to know what are the physical traits or characteristics of a Sikh as laid out in the Siri Guru Granth Sahib. Thanks.
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| | | | | Re: Who are Sikhs according to the Siri Guru Granth Sahib? ਮਃ ੪ ॥ मः ४ ॥ Mėhlā 4. Fourth Mehl: ਗੁਰ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਜੋ ਸਿਖੁ ਅਖਾਏ ਸੁ ਭਲਕੇ ਉਠਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ गुर सतिगुर का जो सिखु अखाए सु भलके उठि हरि नामु धिआवै ॥ Gur saṯgur kā jo sikẖ akẖā▫e so bẖalke uṯẖ har nām ḏẖi▫āvai. One who calls himself a Sikh of the Guru, the True Guru, shall rise in the early morning hours and meditate on the Lord's Name. ਉਦਮੁ ਕਰੇ ਭਲਕੇ ਪਰਭਾਤੀ ਇਸਨਾਨੁ ਕਰੇ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਸਰਿ ਨਾਵੈ ॥ Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26531 उदमु करे भलके परभाती इसनानु करे अम्रित सरि नावै ॥ Uḏam kare bẖalke parbẖāṯī isnān kare amriṯ sar nāvai. Upon arising early in the morning, he is to bathe, and cleanse himself in the pool of nectar. ਉਪਦੇਸਿ ਗੁਰੂ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਜਪੁ ਜਾਪੈ ਸਭਿ ਕਿਲਵਿਖ ਪਾਪ ਦੋਖ ਲਹਿ ਜਾਵੈ ॥ Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26531 उपदेसि गुरू हरि हरि जपु जापै सभि किलविख पाप दोख लहि जावै ॥ Upḏes gurū har har jap jāpai sabẖ kilvikẖ pāp ḏokẖ lėh jāvai. Following the Instructions of the Guru, he is to chant the Name of the Lord, Har, Har. All sins, misdeeds and negativity shall be erased. ਫਿਰਿ ਚੜੈ ਦਿਵਸੁ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਗਾਵੈ ਬਹਦਿਆ ਉਠਦਿਆ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ फिरि चड़ै दिवसु गुरबाणी गावै बहदिआ उठदिआ हरि नामु धिआवै ॥ Fir cẖaṛai ḏivas gurbāṇī gāvai bahḏi▫ā uṯẖ▫ḏi▫ā har nām ḏẖi▫āvai. Then, at the rising of the sun, he is to sing Gurbani; whether sitting down or standing up, he is to meditate on the Lord's Name. ਜੋ ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ ਧਿਆਏ ਮੇਰਾ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਸੋ ਗੁਰਸਿਖੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਮਨਿ ਭਾਵੈ ॥ जो सासि गिरासि धिआए मेरा हरि हरि सो गुरसिखु गुरू मनि भावै ॥ Jo sās girās ḏẖi▫ā▫e merā har har so gursikẖ gurū man bẖāvai. One who meditates on my Lord, Har, Har, with every breath and every morsel of food - that GurSikh becomes pleasing to the Guru's Mind. ਜਿਸ ਨੋ ਦਇਆਲੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਮੇਰਾ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਤਿਸੁ ਗੁਰਸਿਖ ਗੁਰੂ ਉਪਦੇਸੁ ਸੁਣਾਵੈ ॥ जिस नो दइआलु होवै मेरा सुआमी तिसु गुरसिख गुरू उपदेसु सुणावै ॥ Jis no ḏa▫i▫āl hovai merā su▫āmī ṯis gursikẖ gurū upḏes suṇāvai. That person, unto whom my Lord and Master is kind and compassionate - upon that GurSikh, the Guru's Teachings are bestowed. ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਧੂੜਿ ਮੰਗੈ ਤਿਸੁ ਗੁਰਸਿਖ ਕੀ ਜੋ ਆਪਿ ਜਪੈ ਅਵਰਹ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ ॥੨॥ जनु नानकु धूड़ि मंगै तिसु गुरसिख की जो आपि जपै अवरह नामु जपावै ॥२॥ Jan Nānak ḏẖūṛ mangai ṯis gursikẖ kī jo āp japai avrah nām japāvai. ||2|| Servant Nanak begs for the dust of the feet of that GurSikh, who himself chants the Naam, and inspires others to chant it. ||2||
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05-Sep-2009, 14:11 PM
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| | | | | Re: Who are Sikhs according to the Siri Guru Granth Sahib? Unfortunately above pankti is interpreted in such a way that anyone (whether he is a thief, rapist, murderer, gambler etc. or who acts smart and makes correction in His perfection by tempering with hairs) if he get up early in the morning and chant His name is Gursikh which is not correct. It is like sun gala akas ki keeta aaiee rees - On hearing such Divine glory, even the imposter become jealous and start imitating the real saint.Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26531Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26531
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06-Sep-2009, 00:25 AM
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| | | | | Re: Who are Sikhs according to the Siri Guru Granth Sahib? I appreciate the posts thus far. Though by traits or characteristics I was hoping for a something of a more physical appearance in nature. I do like the quote from the Siri Guru Granth Sahib and that is one of the few key conditions to who is a Sikh. I guess the impetus for the question was if the Siri Guru Granth Sahib mentions any physical requirements (specifically) or if such requirements were ancillary in source. | 
06-Sep-2009, 01:16 AM
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| | | | | Re: Who are Sikhs according to the Siri Guru Granth Sahib? Why Ozarks ji are you interested in physical appearance? There are some tuks in Sri Guru Granth Sahib about this. Now is your time to find these as an outgrowth of daily reading of Sri Guru Granth Sahib. It takes about a year of reading and listening to kathas, and doing Nit Nem too, to be able to recognize at once when a tuk or a vaar is from Japuji Sahib, or Asa di Vaar, or Sohila. You are ready to begin that part of your journey. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26531
Many question can be answered by consulting the Guru directly. Try it at this link. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26531 Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji :Page :SearchGurbani.com
Use the search engine to search for hair, turban, and other outward attributes of appearance.
One learns the shabad by reading and hearing it. One begins to understand the shabad by reflecting on it and discussing it with others who are also seekers.
A turban, kurta, kirpan, kara, kechera and kanga can be purchased on the Internet in one hour. You can grow a beard in 3 months. The rest of the process - It takes a lifetime to sort out the inner state of being. | | The following members appreciate Narayanjot Kaur Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Who are Sikhs according to the Siri Guru Granth Sahib? The interest is based on a pm conversation with another member on SPN member and some questions that sprang up from there. I had poked around a bit looking but thought maybe there would be or should be a one-stop-shop answer or thread. Could not really find anything that I thought was a "must have" list in the Siri Guru Granth Sahib. I thought maybe I just wasn't looking for it in the right way or something. I thought that it maybe something in a part of the Siri Guru Granth Sahib that I have yet to get to, so I thought I'd ask. | | The following member appreciates Ozarks Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Who are Sikhs according to the Siri Guru Granth Sahib? You can start your systematic study of Sri Guru Granth Sahib right here with the very question you have asked. Use the search engine. Post the shabads. Invite members to discuss their meaning with you. That gives you a sense of the discipline that contributes to growth of your knowledge of the Guru -- a strong start. A search organized by a theme. | | The following member appreciates Narayanjot Kaur Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Who are Sikhs according to the Siri Guru Granth Sahib? Dear Ozark Ji,
The simple and concise answer to your question is that in the spiritual sense there is no value of physical traits in the spiritual world as per AGGS. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26531
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06-Sep-2009, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by vsgrewal48895 Dear Ozark Ji,
The simple and concise answer to your question is that in the spiritual sense there is no value of physical traits in the spiritual world as per AGGS. | This is the most misleading statement. Since people started misinterpretting the gurbani tuks as per their convenience by stating,'in the spiritual sense there is no value of physical traits as if God was stupid to bestow hair', or whether you are murderer, rapiest, thief, just chant His name - no matter what you do during day the, the tenth guru had to make a maryada and clearly clarify the four major kureihit - one among them is not to temper with His perfection and shave'. Please pause at this pankti why guru sahib had to state, ' sun gala akash ki keeta aaeeye rees' - upon hearing such divine glory the imposter became jealous started imitating and chanting His name to become spiritual, but guru sahib in next pankti clearly say it is kudi kudai thees - waste of time.
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