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| | | | | Are You A King Or A Clown ? ARE YOU A KING OR A CLOWN ? The turban is my crown and it aint coming down ! The King wears the crown The cap is for the clown ! WE ARE THE CHILDREN We are young and fearless We drank the amrit-nectar Now we wear the 5-Ks of The mighty, mighty Khalsa We never miss our prayers They give us super power When we meditate with The mighty, mighty Khalsa We are saint soldiers We always stand together We are Waheguru's Army The mighty, mighty Khalsa We are all equal my sister and brother There is no caste in The mighty, mighty Khalsa We don't hate anybody We always help each other Everyone's the friend of The mighty, mighty Khalsa Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/21460-are-you-a-king-or-clown.html We don't do drugs We don't drink booze God made us pure And we wont lose The Khalsa life is what we choose 'Cause we get high loving our Gurus! The more we pray The more we say We love, we love We love our Gurus! Each 'n every day We pray and say We love, we love We love our Gurus! Listen to these views They're headline news We love, we love We love our Gurus! We don't drink booze We will never lose 'Cause we get high loving our Gurus! WAHEGURU JEE KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JEE KEE FATEH
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13-May-2008, 00:44 AM
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| | | | | | | Re: Are You A King Or A Clown ? ARE YOU A KING OR A CLOWN ? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=21460 The turban is my crown and it aint coming down ! The King wears the crown The cap is for the clown !
Hello All Jio
Calling others clown who wears cap, is very anti Gurmat approach. Or it is a joke! Even then, it seems low level. | 
13-May-2008, 06:08 AM
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| | | | | | | Re: Are You A King Or A Clown ? Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
As per Sikh tradition, we should tie a turban and not wear a Cap.
I heard somewhere,
hoe sikh sir ttopee dhharai || saath janam kushattee hue marai ||
He who as a Sikh places a hat on their head; will be reborn seven times as a leper.
But, then there are so many other things that we should not be doing,
for instance, one of them is, as per some Sikh saints, Trimming and tying the beard are the same. So keep the beard open and flowing is Sikh Maryada, not possible for most sikhs today due to jobs and living outside India. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=21460
I am also very confused, as Sikhism doesn't teach us hating or disliking anyone, and its not a harsh and strict religion.
Most of my friends wear Caps, I dont hate them, but these things look small, 50 yrs from now, Topi may become more popular than the Turban.
Like everywhere else , in sikhism also, there is discipline and code of conduct, and if we wish to be Guru ke Pyaare, the Turban is a gift by Guru Gobind Singh JI to all the sikhs, we keep the Gifts from our friends and relatives with such care, and don't care at all for such a beautiful gift from the Guru, who is ang-sang sahai all the times everywhere.
Finally, Someone who has beard and wear a turban is not always a Sikh.
Turban is not the only thing that makes you a sikh, there are rules and principles to be followed. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=21460
Above all is to read Gurbaani and understand for yourself what Guru Ji is telling us, and then we will have no doubt what so ever.
Bhul chuk maaf
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13-May-2008, 06:15 AM
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| | | | | | | Re: Are You A King Or A Clown ? "hoe sikh sar topi dhare sat janam kohdee hoe mare."
Can anyone clarify, if 10th Guru Sri Guru Gobind Gingh said this?
And if he did say this, does this apply to only Amritdhari Sikhs? or everyone, even if they trim their beards, and drink alcohol and eat meat. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=21460
Bhul chuk maaf
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13-May-2008, 08:01 AM
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| | | | | Re: Are You A King Or A Clown ? All Jio
Any time we praise our attire and laugh at others, it disqualifies us to be Sikhs. We are supposed to respect all and show humbleness. Guru ji gave Singh name in concept of inspiration to stand up against tyranny and to maintain equality by ending surnames; however, even in those times, Tenth Nanak praises bravery of Aurangzeb in Jaffarnama, that teaches us some thing. After wearing Turban saying others who are wearing caps are inferior or clown, is not a display of Sikhi Spirit. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=21460 Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=21460 | 
13-May-2008, 17:18 PM
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| | | | | Re: Are You A King Or A Clown ? Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fatehReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=21460 hoie isK isr topI DrY ] swq jnm kuStI huie mrY ] Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=21460
hoe sikh sir ttopee dhharai || saath janam kushattee hue marai ||
He who as a Sikh places a hat on their head, will be reborn seven times as a leper.
--'Tankhaanama' Bhai Nand Laal Jee
The poet ( by Harjit Singh ) is taunting all, who call ourselves as Sikhs but try to hide our Sikh Identity. A Gursikh should be Proud of Guru Sahib ji's gift (the turban). We have been blessed with 'Sardari' (leadership) by Guru Gobind Singh ji. So why become a commoner (spiritless, cowardly, fearful person) ?
Waheguru ji ka khalsa
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14-May-2008, 00:33 AM
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| | | | | Re: Are You A King Or A Clown ? “God is a comedian, playing to an audience too afraid to laugh”- Voltaire I would rather be a clown than a king. The king; a symbol of order, structure, obedience, control, manipulation, war and fear. The clown; a symbol of freedom.Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=21460
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14-May-2008, 06:07 AM
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| | | | | Re: Are You A King Or A Clown ? Quote:
Originally Posted by singhbj Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh hoie isK isr topI DrY ] swq jnm kuStI huie mrY ]
hoe sikh sir ttopee dhharai || saath janam kushattee hue marai ||
He who as a Sikh places a hat on their head, will be reborn seven times as a leper.
--'Tankhaanama' Bhai Nand Laal Jee
The poet ( by Harjit Singh ) is taunting all, who call ourselves as Sikhs but try to hide our Sikh Identity. A Gursikh should be Proud of Guru Sahib ji's gift (the turban). We have been blessed with 'Sardari' (leadership) by Guru Gobind Singh ji. So why become a commoner (spiritless, cowardly, fearful person) ?
Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh | Respected Singhbj ji
So you would ignore Gurbani, humbleness of Tenth Master and follow Bhai Nand Lal's Rehtnama( which is not even sure Bhai Nand Lal wrote it because a lot of things said in it absolutely against Gurmat)? Guru Gobind Singh ji didnt give only this turban gift but also to obey Guru Granth Sahib. So pick one that suits to the ego, ignore the other one that is the stratgy of todays Sikhs? Why become a commoner? Is it your view ?Have you forgot, Satguru Nanak preferred commoner compared to special one of the society( Bhai Lao, remember)? When religion becomes pick and chose stuff, horrible consequences are invited to be doomed. My turban hasnt changed me a bit, I love being commoner because that is what Satguru Nanak taught me, my heartily thanks to Guru ji. Reading Gurbani means nothing unless one lives it. | 
14-May-2008, 07:23 AM
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| | | | | Re: Are You A King Or A Clown ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinister “God is a comedian, playing to an audience too afraid to laugh”- Voltaire I would rather be a clown than a king. The king; a symbol of order, structure, obedience, control, manipulation, war and fear. The clown; a symbol of freedom.
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My sincere thanks for understanding Sikhi as its ocean like approach towards His all creation ! Happy | 
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