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Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/2046-shere-punjab.html

Sher stands for Tiger
Punjab is land of punj (five) ab (waters = rivers)

Due to panthic contributions, Maharaja Ranjit Singh is known as Sher-e-Punjab.

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But what is their purpose, what is the organisation for.
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Re: Shere punjab

I didnt say, it is an organization. I am not aware of any either.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2046

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Re: Shere punjab

Salaam Alaikaam, Muslim ji
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2046

This is very dark and complicated.

I am afraid that in the UK, the "Sher-E-Panjab" are indeed a "they". Unfortunately all that I know is based on rumor.

There are reports in the UK, there are some extremist Muslims, specifically of Pakistani lineage, that have been forcing converting Sikhs and Panjabi Hindus to Islam.

Other reports say that the same group of said Muslims are specifically men that are seducing (or deceiving, or forcing) Sikh/Hindu girls via matrimonial ads with deeply romantic and glorious tales of luxury...but the end result is that the girl gets whisked off to Pakistan for a life of slavery.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=2046

Another extremist group in the UK has been reported to take action against these alleged forced conversing by "rescuing" these Panjabi girls. (How...I don't know). This group calls itself Sher-E-Panjab, or "Lion of Panjab." The group, however, is a group of Radha Swamis, not a group of Sikhs.

I am gonig to defer to someone else to describe who the Radha Swamis are. The best that I can say is that they are a seperate religion in Panjab that heavily utilizes Sikh imagery, and even borrows from Sikh scriptures...but in other ways has very deep conflicts with the Sikh faith.

Devotees say that the Sher-E-Panjab has been acting as the "real" lion of Panjab...in that they took action where the girls Sikh brothers did not. Some Sikhs may go as far as saying that the Radha Swamis say this/do this simply to make a mockery of the Sikh's kirpan which stands for defending against injustice.

I don't know how much of this is true. I have heard that there are some fundamentalist tensions brewing in England on many sides, particularly in the Indian and Pakistani communities. If the disagreements escalate in to battles of extremism, that will be a very bad day for all faiths involved.

Muslim, you are in the UK and I am not. If I may ask, what have you seen or heard in regards to this matter?

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Re: Shere punjab

most of wat u hav sed is tru expecept i dont think shere panjab are radhaswami, not gursikhs either though and i think theyre mainly monay.
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whatever their origins might have been, to protect sikhs against attacks from muslims and PRIMARILY BNP thugs (incidentally they cant do either anymore), they are no more than petty criminals now reduced to a hip-hop style imitation gang with countless splinter groups.
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sherepunjab was founded in round about 1979 there purpose was to help the young sikh girls and boys fend for them selves, they were also ther to stop the muslim race with mixing with our sikh girls
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sherepunjab was founded in round about 1979 there purpose was to help the young sikh girls and boys fend for them selves, they were also there to stop the muslim race with mixing with our sikh girls
I just met an oldy from that firm and so am going to ressurect the thread and repeat what he told me.

Originally is started up North, Birminghamn where some Pakistanis people had been making pornos with dumb young and drugged up Punjabi girls. They fought these people and then targetted a Pakistant promotion team promoting day time gigs, timed to coincide with school so parents wouldn't know their children were truanting. They managed to stop these down by smacking the bouncers and the deejays about.

Anyways small groups of these anti-Sikh jerks (mostly pakistani based and some with black converts). Targetted Sikh garls at unis and stuff. This lead to a lot of hostilities in mid-late 90s London.

Ultimately, from what I was told SP agreed to disband and address the problem in terms of raising your family. Some may indeed be working on sites, but others work in law, music industry etc etc. now. And yes some of them may have gone to criminal pursuits too. But a few have taken amrit though and lead clean professional lives.

Some feel let down that when they needed help none was forthcoming from within the community, many boys went to prision over this,.

The net result is that Sikh girls are still the freest girls around and are rapidly losing many idenitical markers.

The suggestions of SP to instigate wider social reform and educational programs were ignored, now you have a non stop stream of westernised Punjabi girls in the UK more likely to be in a bar on friday than a Gurdwara, and happy to date anyone they facy. Sikh guys can be seen in a similar light.

Oh yeah, SP were a mixture of Mona and keshdhari Sikhs, not Radhosoamis.
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