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30-Oct-2007, 10:52 AM
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I am member of almost all sikh sites and i have seen that participation of punjabi sikh women in discussions is very low.On the other hand participation of western converted sikh women is quite good compared to their population.
Is there something in sikhism that punjabi sikh women are not interested in sikhism while western women are attracted to it. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/17771-lack-of-female-participation-in-discussion.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=17771
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30-Oct-2007, 16:29 PM
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It seems to me around my area that sikh women do not spend time discussing sikh dharma, but rather are practicing it.  |
30-Oct-2007, 20:41 PM
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I thought women were more towards wanting to be heard than men. |
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kds ji
This is a good question, and I have myself wondered. There seems to be more than one reason. Both cultural.
Think about the responsibilities of Sikh woman at every level of society in almost any country, except those who are highly educated and who do not have careers of some kind because they do not have to work. The time and energy for forum participation is not there for most. Particularly after they go onto school or marry and start families or both. All of the Sikh women that I know personally are up at the crack of dawn, taking care of family and are then off to their jobs -- most of which are professional in nature so they take work home with them. Then back at home they have more family issues (supervising homework, cooking, planning the next day). On weekends - shopping, participating in Gurdwara activities. They never never never rest. Until they are older. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=17771Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=17771
The older women probably do have more time, but they are also products of cultural expectations that women should slip in and out of situations silently like shadows. This is not about Sikhism but about culture.
Anyway, the next time I see a Sikh woman shepherding a bunch of kids into an SUV and driving off anywhere on a Saturday morning I will remember that she was cleaning up after breakfast, tying hair and padkas, keeping everyone on task, and the Internet was the last thing on her mind.
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30-Oct-2007, 21:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kds1980  I am member of almost all sikh sites and i have seen that participation of punjabi sikh women in discussions is very low.On the other hand participation of western converted sikh women is quite good compared to their population.
Is there something in sikhism that punjabi sikh women are not interested in sikhism while western women are attracted to it.
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i don't think it has anything to do with sikhism, rather culture. in general indian women are not really encouraged to speak their mind openly among strangers, or to disagree with strange men in the same way that is acceptable in the west.
this is only a generalization, yes, there are many exceptions.
i do see a lot of young western born punjabi sikh women speaking out lately, which leads me to this conclusion that it's more cultural than religious or ethnic.  |
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After the bull who holds up the world, there are Sikh women holding up everything else.
| nice way to put it
and yes I tend to agree with you and Kelly Kaur ! |
30-Oct-2007, 22:42 PM
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Originally Posted by aad0002 kds ji
This is a good question, and I have myself wondered. There seems to be more than one reason. Both cultural.
Think about the responsibilities of Sikh woman at every level of society in almost any country, except those who are highly educated and who do not have careers of some kind because they do not have to work. The time and energy for forum participation is not there for most. Particularly after they go onto school or marry and start families or both. All of the Sikh women that I know personally are up at the crack of dawn, taking care of family and are then off to their jobs -- most of which are professional in nature so they take work home with them. Then back at home they have more family issues (supervising homework, cooking, planning the next day). On weekends - shopping, participating in Gurdwara activities. They never never never rest. Until they are older.
The older women probably do have more time, but they are also products of cultural expectations that women should slip in and out of situations silently like shadows. This is not about Sikhism but about culture.
Anyway, the next time I see a Sikh woman shepherding a bunch of kids into an SUV and driving off anywhere on a Saturday morning I will remember that she was cleaning up after breakfast, tying hair and padkas, keeping everyone on task, and the Internet was the last thing on her mind.
After the bull who holds up the world, there are Sikh women holding up everything else. | Dear antonia ji
What you said is absolutely true for many sikh women but not for all.On punjabi cultural sikh sites the partcipation of sikh girls is quite high in useless talks.But in the religion and community section it is again boys that mainly induldge in discussions |
30-Oct-2007, 23:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kds1980 Dear antonia ji
What you said is absolutely true for many sikh women but not for all.On punjabi cultural sikh sites the partcipation of sikh girls is quite high in useless talks.But in the religion and community section it is again boys that mainly induldge in discussions |
what or who determines what is "useless talks"? isn't this discussion itself somewhat useless? |
30-Oct-2007, 23:48 PM
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OOPS ! Useless was the wrong word and seems to be too much judgemental
I think no religious /non spirtual talk was the wrod KDS might want to use Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=17771
Yes One thing is for sure that on culture oriented sites and also networking sites like ORKUT ,H15 There are considerable number of girls speaking out their mind on every possible topics right from Sidney Sheldon , Shakeapear to Stock Market. This also makes me wonder why not spirtual sites Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=17771
May be Girls are too afrais to of Religious Male Bullies they find at there local gurdwara and communities so they just decided stay away from this thing even on net
may be
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