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Re: Rarest Coin of 1804 with Pic of Shree Guru Nanak Dev ji

Looking at the sword, it appears to be a picture of Guru Gobind Singh Ji... Thanks for sharing...
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Re: Rarest Coin of 1804 with Pic of Shree Guru Nanak Dev ji

In 1800 Maharaja Ranjit Singh won the victory and marched towards Lahore On 1st April 1800 the Governor General of British Govt had sent Mir Yusuf Ali to Lahore to hold negotiations with Maharja Ranjit Singh ji. An historic meeting was held on 22 Oct 1800. On April 12, 1801 Ranjit Singhji declared himself Maharaja of Punjab on the auspicious day of Baisakhi when Khalsa was made by Guru Gobind Singh ji
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As the coin is connected with Maharaja Ranjit Singhji's regime so the intellectuals of Sikh religion may properly predict whether the coin is in the memory of Guru Nanak Dev ji or Guru Gobind Singh ji. As per my observation, the picture is just like the portraits made by Sobha Singh artist of Guru Nanak Dev ji. The swords may be due to the victory of Maharaja Ranjit Singh ji.
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http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...-JsCsZGEsyVhJw
Kindly go through the paintings of Hon'ble Sobha Singh and match with the Rarest coin.
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Re: Rarest Coin of 1804 with Pic of Shree Guru Nanak Dev ji

Thanks for this wonderful image and comment. You know how I love Sikh Coins. I have moved it to Sikh Coins and out of Hard Talk. Yes I do believe it is typical of portraits of Guru Nanak for that period of time in history.
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This Coin DEBUNKS the fanciful theory that ONLY Guru hargobind Sahib Ji and then Guru Gobind Singh ji handled a SWORD. KIRPAN is a GIFT from Guru Nanak ji sahib..our Founder..except that one doesnt hand a sword to a child...one waits for him to grow up...In Guru nanak jis time Sikhi/Gurmatt was a "CHILD"...and grown up by the tiem fo vasakhi 1699..fit and able to carry his own Kirpan !!...a KIRPAN that was forged by Guru nanak Ji and kept in reserve for the growing child of Gurmatt/Sikhi.
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This Coin DEBUNKS the fanciful theory that ONLY Guru hargobind Sahib Ji and then Guru Gobind Singh ji handled a SWORD. KIRPAN is a GIFT from Guru Nanak ji sahib..our Founder..except that one doesnt hand a sword to a child...one waits for him to grow up...In Guru nanak jis time Sikhi/Gurmatt was a "CHILD"...and grown up by the tiem fo vasakhi 1699..fit and able to carry his own Kirpan !!...a KIRPAN that was forged by Guru nanak Ji and kept in reserve for the growing child of Gurmatt/Sikhi.
Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fatheh!

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I am fortunate enough to own such a coin. Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji is depicted in the post above. Guru Ji in their Tenth form is sitting in Bir Asan, they have a tegha and are holding a teer. The main reason why this is Sri Guru Gobind Singh is that the iconic image of Sri Guru Nanak sitting with Bhai Mardana and Bhai Bala is on the other side. The coin is dated 1804 but you have to bear in mind that is not Common Era date. I think you ll find that this puts the coin in the Misl period. Also at the top on the Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji side the writing states in old hindi 'Sat Kartar'.

Sri Guru Har Rai kept a standing army and we know how Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur earned their name, so the theory you are ,unsuccessfully on this occasion, trying to debunk isn't correct in the first place. All should be careful making sweeping statements based in selective evidence to support their own theories, lest they miss the whole picture or in this case the otherside of the coin.
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Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fatheh!

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I am fortunate enough to own such a coin. Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji is depicted in the post above. Guru Ji in their Tenth form is sitting in Bir Asan, they have a tegha and are holding a teer. The main reason why this is Sri Guru Gobind Singh is that the iconic image of Sri Guru Nanak sitting with Bhai Mardana and Bhai Bala is on the other side. The coin is dated 1804 but you have to bear in mind that is not Common Era date. I think you ll find that this puts the coin in the Misl period. Also at the top on the Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji side the writing states in old hindi 'Sat Kartar'.

Sri Guru Har Rai kept a standing army and we know how Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur earned their name, so the theory you are ,unsuccessfully on this occasion, trying to debunk isn't correct in the first place. All should be careful making sweeping statements based in selective evidence to support their own theories, lest they miss the whole picture or in this case the otherside of the coin.
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In the coin the disciple has not sat in Bir=Asan posture. This is the posture of a warrior with his left knee raised and the right knee touching the ground. In this posture Guruji poured nectar into the palms to drink to their beloved.
In the pic of coin Guruji is sitting in cross-legged position. the lower legs folded towards the body, crossing each other at the ankle or calf, with both ankles on the floor. In this poture the feet used to tuck under the knees or thighs. In Yoga this posture is called as Sukhasana. This posture is used during meditation.

Still I doubt that Guru Gobind Singhji is depicted in the above mentioned picture. Your obeservation that the year 1804 engraved on the coin is doubtful. I am quite sure that the year belongs to actual date as at that time Maharaja Ranjit Singhji was the ruler as per history defined as above.
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