Is the Soul Our Inner Guru or God?

Embers · #1 (**permalink**) 01-Aug-2012, 00:06 AM

Sat Sri Akal, friends

Is our soul equal to God or A part of of God?
Is it our guru and should it be meditated upon?

Thank you.
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harry haller · #2 (**permalink**) 01-Aug-2012, 00:11 AM

If you mean the inner voice, I believe that is an essence of God, your inner Guru, the voice that always makes sense.
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Why would you wish to meditate on it? If I were to meet one of the Gurus, you would not be able to shut me up, I would wish to have discourse on every topic I could think of, as it so with my inner voice.
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Meditate on it

, just try talking to it

Embers · #3 (**permalink**) 01-Aug-2012, 00:16 AM

Thanks Harry
I mean literally God, rather than inner voice. I ask about guru because Waheguru is God and he is our Guru. Please correct me if I have misunderstood.

I agree, I would have a good talk with God if I thought he would reply

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Meditating on it brings the soul to the surface, so to speak, one becomes merged with it. Instead of being caught up in worldly affairs it seems we can reside as the soul. I am wondering what others think

harry haller · #4 (**permalink**) 01-Aug-2012, 00:29 AM

I talk to God all the time, and God replies, although its always the same answer, whatever the truth is, and then God shows me the truth like a shining path through my day, and says, just follow this path, and if I do not, God merely states, 'come back when you are ready for the truth, otherwise you are just passing time'

Of course I have several voices, (24 at the last count), but only one of them has the essence of Creator, and only one speaks the truth. The rest lie.
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It is important to be caught up in worldy affairs, the trick is not to run one way or another, some get caught up and lose sight, and such can also be the way with residing in the soul, the key is balance and understanding, that allows you to live in the world whilst also doing some good in the world, rather than living in your soul and driving yourself mad.

All the pleasures in life are open to a Sikh, provided they are enjoyed and gained as per Bani.Sikhism is not a 'live in the trees and eat seeds' religion, nor a 'lets mediate and leave everything to God' religion, it is a religion where you seek knowledge, wisdom, experience, and ultimately the ability to make a change, in the world you live in.

My opinion only, I am sure others view different

Embers · #5 (**permalink**) 01-Aug-2012, 00:35 AM

I like your view, Harry, thank you for sharing it.

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I am not sure how you distinguish the shining path during your day?

harry haller · #6 (**permalink**) 01-Aug-2012, 00:47 AM

Ambersji

Yes, that is a hard one, the shining path is called Hukam, and there is a short way and long way to know what Hukam is. The short way is quite simple, just read and understand the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji from start to finish, and then practice it so it becomes a habit, soon, you will be living Bani, and will know straight away what is Hukam and what is not.
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I, myself, took the long way, this fundamentally involves spending 22 years following anything other than Hukam (its easier, its a bigger and more fun path), the trouble is, the damned consequences, anyhoo, after a while all the consequences fall down on you, and basically you realise that not following Hukam hurts, its not about pleasing some bearded old man in the sky, but living life content and happy, for the long term, rather than the short term, now when I say hurts, I mean, really hurts, failed marriages, bankruptcy, heart attacks, addictions, etc etc etc.
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So, I know what little I know because of the long path, and a good teacher it is!

Save yourself some misery, take the short path

Embers · #7 (**permalink**) 01-Aug-2012, 00:50 AM

I am glad you mention Hukam, Harryji. My question would be how can we be proactive, creative and 'successful at work or study' whilst accepting Hukam? Is everything hukam?

harry haller · #8 (**permalink**) 01-Aug-2012, 01:03 AM

This is my opinion only, you must seek clarification from others more able than me

My definition of Hukam is the golden path that Creator wishes you to follow. It is not fate, it is not definitive, your future lies in your own hands. Whatever decision you take will be either in Hukam or not. My belief is that if you can spend the majority, or even all of your time in Hukam, then you will live the life that Creator mapped out for you, you have the best chance of a happy productive and purposeful life. Sure, bad things can and will happen, but your connection to God, and willingness to follow the path of God, means you are best prepared for most problems.
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To be successful at work, be honest, work hard, stand up for yourself, protect and help the weak, be a rock for anyone round you, do not get involved in cheating or theft, everything should be in the level, everything should pass the litmus test, your heart sings true and shines when you show love to Creation, it cries and is black when you abuse Creation. Most live in the middle, neither singing nor crying, just a deathly warmness that is merely passing time. Those that live in the extremes know the truth, one path is to death, one to everlasting life

Hukam is living as per Bani, or in my case, just doing none of things I used to

Embers · #9 (**permalink**) 01-Aug-2012, 01:09 AM

Thanks a lot, Harryji