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Old 13-Feb-2012, 13:45 PM
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ਸਤਜੁਗਿ ਤੈ ਮਾਣਿਓ ਛਲਿਓ ਬਲਿ ਬਾਵਨ ਭਾਇਓ ॥
sathajug thai maaniou shhaliou bal baavan bhaaeiou ||
In the Golden Age of Sat Yuga, You were pleased to deceive Baal the king, in the form of a dwarf.

ਤ੍ਰੇਤੈ ਤੈ ਮਾਣਿਓ ਰਾਮੁ ਰਘੁਵੰਸੁ ਕਹਾਇਓ ॥
thraethai thai maaniou raam raghuvans kehaaeiou ||
In the Silver Age of Traytaa Yuga, You were called Raam of the Raghu dynasty.

ਦੁਆਪੁਰਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਮੁਰਾਰਿ ਕੰਸੁ ਕਿਰਤਾਰਥੁ ਕੀਓ ॥
dhuaapur kirasan muraar kans kirathaarathh keeou ||
In the Brass Age of Dwaapur Yuga, You were Krishna; You killed Mur the demon and saved Kans.

ਉਗ੍ਰਸੈਣ ਕਉ ਰਾਜੁ ਅਭੈ ਭਗਤਹ ਜਨ ਦੀਓ ॥
ougrasain ko raaj abhai bhagatheh jan dheeou ||
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You blessed Ugrasain with a kingdom, and You blessed Your humble devotees with fearlessness.

ਕਲਿਜੁਗਿ ਪ੍ਰਮਾਣੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰੁ ਅੰਗਦੁ ਅਮਰੁ ਕਹਾਇਓ ॥
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kalijug pramaan naanak gur angadh amar kehaaeiou ||
In the Iron Age, the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, You are known and accepted as Guru Nanak, Guru Angad and Guru Amar Das.
~Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ang 1390


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Re: Are these quotations real?

Kamala Bhenji,

To a Hindu they exist, to a Hindu Sikh they exist, to a Sikh they do not. Once the concept of one Creator is accepted, you may find they do not exist, but I think the important thing is to be at peace with yourself and your beliefs, and not try and impose them on another.
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Old 13-Feb-2012, 16:32 PM
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a Hindu/Sikh would probabaly be a Judaeo/Christian....going to a Church and synagogue on alternate weekends..having a Sabbath on saturday one week and Sunday the next...
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or a Muslim/Christian..going to the mosque on fridays and Church on sundays...reading the Bible and the Koran alternatively...or a Muslim/jew....???
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http://khalsanews.org/articles/Read&Identify.pdf Read and idnetify what these really mean vis a vis Sikhism Gurmatt as in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji....
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these Ouates always confuse me
like if ram was god then why he didn't accepted Sita,,,ok his praja was more important but then still i dont feel like believing that Ram was God
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In Gurbanee nowhere RAM has been refered as GOD.This is our own assumption which is more confusing.As such there is no concept of GOD in Gurbanee.If we are refering CREATOR as GOD then this is also our own assumption.
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Gurbanee is all about Parbrahm ,Parmesar and SATi GuR.
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a Hindu/Sikh would probabaly be a Judaeo/Christian....going to a Church and synagogue on alternate weekends..having a Sabbath on saturday one week and Sunday the next...
or a Muslim/Christian..going to the mosque on fridays and Church on sundays...reading the Bible and the Koran alternatively...or a Muslim/jew....???
And yet, there is an organisation that refers to itself by the self-contradictory name, "Jews for Jesus".

It may sound strange, but there are those of us who would love the opportunity to go to synagogue on Saturday and Gurdwara on Sunday - were it not for the havoc it would engender to our already-tumultuous lives. I guess this makes us, "Judeo-Sikhs", or, as many of our coreligionists would probably call us, "Sick Jews"! Still, ... having tasted the Guru we would not willingly go back to being as we were, and can only hope and pray that the way forward will, with Guru's nadar, become clear.
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these Ouates always confuse me
like if ram was god then why he didn't accepted Sita,,,ok his praja was more important but then still i dont feel like believing that Ram was God
Randeep Kaur ji you really believe there existed someone call Ram-Sita like Heer-Ranjah

Really let us not confuse fables, so called realities or belief systems based on these.

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And yet, there is an organisation that refers to itself by the self-contradictory name, "Jews for Jesus".

It may sound strange, but there are those of us who would love the opportunity to go to synagogue on Saturday and Gurdwara on Sunday - were it not for the havoc it would engender to our already-tumultuous lives. I guess this makes us, "Judeo-Sikhs", or, as many of our coreligionists would probably call us, "Sick Jews"! Still, ... having tasted the Guru we would not willingly go back to being as we were, and can only hope and pray that the way forward will, with Guru's nadar, become clear.
Awakeand Singh ji I think I have a solution for your dilemma.

Instead of "Judeo - Sikh" call yourself "Sikh - Judeo". Sikhism does not forbid you from visiting anywhere or others coming to visit Sikhism and institutions without intent to convert.

Only any religion so afraid will restrict freedom of association or movement. Not Sikhism!

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