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i have two questions about ardas
1 .what is BHAGAUTI / why to serve first ?
2. why word "Guru" is absent at the name of Shri Guru Teg Bahadur ?
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31-Dec-2011, 05:45 AM
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Bscheema ji many people ask the same question with regards to 'bhagauti'! There is an article about the term bhagauti used in ardaas here: http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-s...al-prayer.html
There is also a wonderful sakhi and extrapolation by Gyani Jarnail ji which I'm trying to find for you.
Regarding the absence of 'Guru' before Guru Tegh Bahadur ji's name, it appears from the English translation on the SGPC website that most of our Guru Sahiban are listed by name only: Quote: | Having first thought of the Almighty's prowess, let us think of Guru Nanak. Then of Guru Angad, Amardas and Ramdas - may they be our rescuers! Remember, then, Arjan, Hargobind and Har Rai. Meditate then on revered Har Krishan on seeing whom all suffering vanishes. Think then of Teg Bahadar, remembrance of whom brings all nine treasures. He comes to rescue every where. Then of the tenth Lord, revered Guru Gobind Singh, who comes to rescue every where. The embodiment of the light of all ten sovereign lordships, the Guru Granth - think of the view and reading of it and say, "Waheguru (Wondrous Destroyer of Darkness)". |
I think the word 'Guru' is not repeated to ensure the continuity / poetic sound of the prayer. If you put 'Guru' in front of all of them it would sound bulky, It is obvious they are all Guru ji so it doesn't need to be repeated. This is my understanding.
Will try and get back to you with the sakhi...
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31-Dec-2011, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ishna  Although not quite what I was looking for, Gyani ji in this post http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hard-t...html#post94775 gives more information regarding the word 'Guru' being absent from that paragraph within ardaas.
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Haystack is right...  . I gave up looking for any needles here...terribly difficult.....the Search Script has to be improved....Spn is a vast treasure house...and most times I turn to Google to find what SPN has soemthing i want... ...like calling my "daddy" in the "clouds" to help me FIND a particular book in my own Personal Library !!! LOL...  | | The following members appreciate Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | |
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Originally Posted by Aman Singh I agree, the beauty of google search is that it is able to suggest similar sounding words which SPN search box is incapable of doing... google search rules! | Aman Singh ji Iwas wondering if it requires some kind of arrangement to embed their search capabilities into site search with restriction to displaying results only from say "sikhphilosophy.net". I am not in this type of knowledge space just curious. I have seen some other sites use it not necessarily Sikhism related sites.
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