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Old 22-Nov-2011, 08:43 AM
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I have a guilty conscious my worshipping method is not vey good,let me explain, I started with Mool Mantra because my Punjabi is not very good ,I would get tired and fall asleep and I’m lazy so eventually I just started just saying Ik, eventually I stopped saying Ik too .
I then tried to suggest to God even before I start that I’m going to say his name but then would proceed to do hardly anything other than just lie back and usually fall asleep, this has been my way I'm afraid dear Spners.

I seemed to have convinced him that I’m worshipping him by doing nothing much at all, but occasionally I think he might have noticed that I actually don’t do very much, so then I get clever and I say to him that I intercepted my thought even before I thought it and proceed to assure him that it was about him.
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What I mean to say is that we should worship him in our conscious.



 
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My own interpretation is that the Creator does not really care whether you pray or not. Creator does not care whether you think of him, act with him in mind, thank him, talk to him, in fact, has no interest in anything you do.
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We pray for ourselves, I sure Creator has other things to worry about as to whether he is being thought of, or not, I am sure, unlike the Abrahamic god, Creator does not get angry, or play silly mind games, if we do not worship 'him' or tell 'him' how wonderful he is.

We can worship in our conscious, by acting/speaking/thinking in line with Sikhi, and sharing those acts/speeches/thoughts with Creation, stroking a dog, talking to a stranger, being moved by a shabad, being moved by a pop song, there are may ways to worship, to cherish and to thank, some are pragmatic, some I do not see the point of, all are valid
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Old 22-Nov-2011, 20:19 PM
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A BEAUTIFUL PRAYER
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I asked God to take away my habit.
God said, No.
It is not for me to take away, but for you to give it up.


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I asked God to make my handicapped child whole.
God said, No.

His spirit is whole, his body is only temporary


I asked God to grant me patience.
God said, No.
Patience is a byproduct of tribulations;
it isn't granted, it is learned.


I asked God to give me happiness.
God said, No.
I give you blessings; Happiness is up to you.


I asked God to spare me pain.
God said, No.
Suffering draws you apart from worldly cares
and brings you closer to me.

I asked God to make my spirit grow.
God said, No.
You must grow on your own! ,
but I will prune you to make you fruitful.




I asked God for all things that I might enjoy life.
God said, No.


I will give you life, so that you may enjoy all things.




I ask God to help me LOVE others, as much as He loves me.
God said...Ahhhh, finally you have the idea.



May God Bless You,
"To the world you might be one person, but to one

person you just might be the world"

"Even the word 'IMPOSSIBLE' says 'I M POSSIBLE'

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Re: A Godly Conscious

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We can worship in our conscious, by acting/speaking/thinking in line with Sikhi,
Harry Veer Ji if as you say God is not interested in you then why do you need to be in line with Sikhi?

Anyway I have found my mistake I'm using too much effort ,forcing my will is not the way ,I must try Sikhi lite!
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Re: A Godly Conscious

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Harry Veer Ji if as you say God is not interested in you then why do you need to be in line with Sikhi?

Anyway I have found my mistake I'm using too much effort ,forcing my will is not the way ,I must try Sikhi lite!
If I may lend a point which may assist you spji,

I have to get my self in line with sikhi so that I may live

This has nothing to do with 'god' and everything to do with me, I do what I do for ME and my sanity, not for anyone else, We have been given a mandate by which to live, if we follow it, We will be in a peaceful and content place, heaven, but on earth.

If we do not follow it than we will suffer from the consequences of our actions and be ill prepared to deal with natural disasters that may occur

I want to be ready to deal with anything that comes my way, and to live in a fashion that enables me to have greater understanding of myself and my environment, and also the Creator, by tuning into the essence in my head, that is why I am a Sikh.

If you love Chemistry and want to study it for your own ends, you will be a better student than one who studies it to impress, or keep happy the teacher

That is where I am at the moment, hope it helps
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I have to get my self in line with sikhi so that I may live..This has nothing to do with 'god' and everything to do with me
Veer Ji how can you detach Sikhi from God ,what you are doing is moral living ,Sikhi is not only moral living ,that is morality why call it Sikhi,especially if it is for ones own sake if it is for others sake then perhaps it's Sikhi lite.
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Sinner veer ji Sikhi is way of life with a tool kit provided by Guru ji through Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji that may be of help. To use the tool kit and how is much left to the imagination and capabilities of the owner, each Sikh. No two people handle tools the same way. Some are lefties, some are righties, some are short sighted and some are far sighted, some are overweight and some are under weight and so on. The uniqueness in all.
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So we all will treat the tool kit differently. Some will worship how wonderful. Some will study to make best use. Some will find a specific peace awesome .Some will become so well in tune that there will be no difference as the tool kit will become a natural extension of their living. Imagination has no limits.

Let us think now that we Sikhs are now in this big collective and everyone has the same tool kit and different capabilities at any point in time. Hence we come together to seek and to share and to give if we can. All the while helping ourselves far and foremost.

Is this free toolkit available for others to enjoy. Of course it is. Let us spread the true meaning of Sikhi to help others if they seek or we think we could help.

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I don't think Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is a tool kit that mean that would mean it is useful ,I've heard the Ultimate Truth called alot of things but tool kit is about the least flattering.It is essential to Sikhi so calling it useful is not quite fitting,perhaps intellect is a tool ,but whether it is sharp or blunt is another matter. Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji in essence is not a tool it is a jewel.Harry does not need a tool kit to live he has been living perhaps once by immoral means ,changed to moral living and now wants the secret to life itself,if he does not then I guess he wants a tool box! even my eleven year old is equipped with the tools needed to live and he knows right from wrong without consulting Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji ,if anything the Word teaches you how to die ,it is the Guru's who described it as a jewel,it is very precious but only one in a million know it's true worth!

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ਜਿਸ ਨੋ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕਰਹਿ ਤਿਨਿ ਨਾਮ ਰਤਨੁ ਪਾਇਆ ॥
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Jis no kirpā karahi ṯin nām raṯan pā▫i▫ā.
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अहरणि मति वेदु हथीआरु ॥
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Let understanding be the anvil, and spiritual wisdom the tools.

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I don't think Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is a tool kit that mean that would mean it is useful ,I've heard the Ultimate Truth called alot of things but tool kit is about the least flattering.
Sinner veer thanks for correcting me . I remember another poster's posts and reference to "tool kit" so it kind of stuck in my mind and it became mild case of plagiarism. I find as much wrong with calling it jewel as such. As an adjective in this case but not a noun. My use of tool kit was a metaphor or analogy and perhaps both bad but no badness intended.

I will defer back to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as what it is, Guru or teacher.

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