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View Poll Results: (Read the main post first) Would you "dance" to kirtan? Explain.
Yes... 5 12.50%
No... 31 77.50%
I don't listen to kirtan... 0 0%
Not sure... 4 10.00%
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Old 16-Dec-2008, 15:57 PM
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Hi guys,
Recently I have been talking to a Singh and he asked me if I would dance to gurbani kirtan. At first, I thought NO that would be disrespect. But then I remembered that sometimes I would be so fixated on the kirtan that I would start to move with it. I would be lost in it to the point I wouldn't care what I was doing. It would feel natural to just move with it.
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Then I thought about it as I talked to him. Since we sing Gurbani, which is a form of self expression, why not dance? Which is another form of expression. Both a gift from God. Both used to express love. Why not dance for God, I thought?

He said he doesn't like the dance because he wants to concentrate on something different, which makes sense. The gurbani would then create these shockwaves inside him.
I replied in agreement but added that sometimes those shockwaves would be so intense [for me] that you just can't help but move with it.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23677

I want to know what you guys think. Give your sincere and honest opinions. BTW dance could mean any type of movement, I guess.

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re: Dancing In Tune With Gurbani

I can show you two video clips which show people dancing to the tune of gurbani.
One blue belter sangat who do arti with a lamp-lit in a thaal and another a
namdhari mastana dance. I voted NO to dancing.
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Americanisation of tribal dances to hymns from the bible are greatly off putting and far removed from the nature of prayer. To create a deep meditational silence and allow spiritual awakening. A quiet contemplation yields positive introspection. Dancing to Kirtan is not what Sikhism is about. There are some aspects of modernism best avoided. We reserve our dancing mania for the bhangra halls at birthday bashes and wedding receptions. It is best this way.
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When I hear Kirtan, I feel soothing effect that actually helps to still the mind, dancing cannot be done if the mind sets for stilling. Many time the head starts moving up and down while sitting and listening to Kirtan.
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Americanisation of tribal dances to hymns from the bible are greatly off putting and far removed from the nature of prayer. To create a deep meditational silence and allow spiritual awakening. A quiet contemplation yields positive introspection. Dancing to Kirtan is not what Sikhism is about. There are some aspects of modernism best avoided. We reserve our dancing mania for the bhangra halls at birthday bashes and wedding receptions. It is best this way.
You mean you reserve the dance mania for the excess of energy in the body. Mind is still the controller and the arms go up and down or however people dance these days; the movement made in accordance to the sound of maya.
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it seems clear that you guys think that dancing is some sort of maniac act.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23677
ever heard of slow dancing?
Ever heard of just moving? barely dancing....

keyword: movement

i didn't mean dancing like HARDCORE bhangra, maybe I wan't clear enough on that
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When I hear Kirtan, I feel soothing effect that actually helps to still the mind, dancing cannot be done if the mind sets for stilling. Many time the head starts moving up and down while sitting and listening to Kirtan.
there you go, that would be considered dancing. why? because in fact there is movement of the body. A little bit more movement maybe of the hands and would probably be considered dancing by others too.

Again, not HARDCORE bhangra, just moving with the kirtan.
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there you go, that would be considered dancing. why? because in fact there is movement of the body. A little bit more movement maybe of the hands and would probably be considered dancing by others too.

Again, not HARDCORE bhangra, just moving with the kirtan.
That also shows a complete involvement in Kirtan, senses are focused, outer distraction dies completely; however, it has nothing to do with"dancing taken as in popular term" What you are stating about movements, surprisingly they occur only if a complete attention is in Kirtan
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That also shows a complete involvement in Kirtan, senses are focused, outer distraction dies completely; however, it has nothing to do with"dancing taken as in popular term" What you are stating about movements, surprisingly they occur only if a complete attention is in Kirtan
Yes! I mentioned that in the main post. ..shockwaves too intense... movement created...
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