Miracle stories

Sagefrakrobatik · #1 (**permalink**) 17-Sep-2009, 02:18 AM

Any miracle stories in Sikhism like Hindus Christians Jews might have? I will share with you some but first i wanted to hear from Sikhs here
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Aman Singh · #2 (**permalink**) 17-Sep-2009, 02:57 AM

Whatever miracle stories you will tell us, please provide us the proof...

faujasingh · #3 (**permalink**) 17-Sep-2009, 03:19 AM

isnt there mandrake the magicians comics to ridicule you ? why turn to religion for miracales ?

Narayanjot Kaur · #4 (**permalink**) 17-Sep-2009, 03:43 AM

Any miracle stories in Sikhism like Hindus Christians Jews might have? I will share with you some but first i wanted to hear from Sikhs here

Sikhs may tell miracle stories on this thread or others. And in hours or minutes there will be many a reply that debunks these stories. Miracles do not align with Sikh beliefs but they persist.

Satyaban · #5 (**permalink**) 17-Sep-2009, 10:38 AM

Miracles= unexplained phenomena
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/inspirational-stories/26713-miracle-stories.html

Peace
Satyaban

harbansj24 · #6 (**permalink**) 17-Sep-2009, 12:32 PM

What is a miracle? Satyaban ji says they are unexplained phenomena.

What about perfectly plausible coincidences? Can they be categorized as Miracles?

I will give some examples:

I have related this before. I will repeat it. My mother and elder sister were in a place known as Kamalia in what was then Lyallpur district (Now Faisalabad, Pakistan) at the time of partition. Kamalia at that time had a highly respected person known as Sant Sangat Singh Kamalieye wale. He was very close to Bhai Vir Singh. He had recieved information that some marauders were on the way to the town to ransack it. He immeditely sent message to all Sikhs and Hindus to quickly assemble in the local Kahlsa School building. Within next to no time more than 1000 people assembled in the building. Sant ji did Ardas and asked the Sangat to continuosly recite Japji Sahib.

The raiders came but they bypassed the school building, not giving it any consideration. So not a single person was harmed. Next day the miltary came and transported everyone to the border in trucks.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26713

So would you call this a miracle or coincidence? My mother firmly beleived that it was Sant ji's miracle.

Another incident is provided in thread "why bad things happen to good people?" a kid relates how a parked car in which they were left by their mother suddenly started to roll down hill. But a neighbour's wooden gate came in the way and halted the car.
Is this a miracle or coincidence?

Many times we have heard a patient starts to recover after ardas is done in Darbar Sahib. But the patient knows that ardas is being done for him. Is it not possible that the patient starts getting into positive mode and this triggers positive biochemical reactions in the patient? We have discussed this aspect in diffrent threads earlier.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26713

Their can be several such incidents of completely credible coincidences. But when these occur frequently in a person's life such that the course of his life is changed then maybe collectively they are considered as miracle.

So if a person goes along with "Hukam" and does Simran whenever and where ever he remembers to do it, then he will come across many such miracles.

That is the Sikh way of life

faujasingh · #7 (**permalink**) 18-Sep-2009, 00:27 AM

I had gone to meet my father in law who was opposing my marriage and in the morning did Paath of Sukhmani Sahib in the train before meeting him. The entire night they had tried to explain my wife but in the morning when i met them all was fine as if there was no opposition

faujasingh · #8 (**permalink**) 18-Sep-2009, 00:28 AM

I know only one thing Sangat ji the Guru is my seth, my maalik and he will the best for me. I have just failed to understand is miracle the only way to establish yor faith in a doctrine??

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #9 (**permalink**) 18-Sep-2009, 07:14 AM

"miracles" are the way people like Sai baba spreads his faith...IF David Copperfield were labelled as "Baba" and not Magician..he too would have a million strong following..as his chelas...
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26713

IF one seemingly BREAKS the LAWS of NATURE..one is a "GOD"...IF one BREAKS the LAWS of MAN..he is a CRIMINAL !! see the anamoly !! OUR GURUS SAW IT and REFUSED to BREAK any laws made by The CREATOR..its just NOT DONE !! How can we show our "Love and respect" by BREAKING HIS laws ??

Satyaban · #10 (**permalink**) 18-Sep-2009, 13:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harbansj24

What is a miracle? Satyaban ji says they are unexplained phenomena.

What about perfectly plausible coincidences? Can they be categorized as Miracles?

I will give some examples:

I have related this before. I will repeat it. My mother and elder sister were in a place known as Kamalia in what was then Lyallpur district (Now Faisalabad, Pakistan) at the time of partition. Kamalia at that time had a highly respected person known as Sant Sangat Singh Kamalieye wale. He was very close to Bhai Vir Singh. He had recieved information that some marauders were on the way to the town to ransack it. He immeditely sent message to all Sikhs and Hindus to quickly assemble in the local Kahlsa School building. Within next to no time more than 1000 people assembled in the building. Sant ji did Ardas and asked the Sangat to continuosly recite Japji Sahib.

The raiders came but they bypassed the school building, not giving it any consideration. So not a single person was harmed. Next day the miltary came and transported everyone to the border in trucks.

So would you call this a miracle or coincidence? My mother firmly beleived that it was Sant ji's miracle.

Another incident is provided in thread "why bad things happen to good people?" a kid relates how a parked car in which they were left by their mother suddenly started to roll down hill. But a neighbour's wooden gate came in the way and halted the car.
Is this a miracle or coincidence?

Many times we have heard a patient starts to recover after ardas is done in Darbar Sahib. But the patient knows that ardas is being done for him. Is it not possible that the patient starts getting into positive mode and this triggers positive biochemical reactions in the patient? We have discussed this aspect in diffrent threads earlier.

Their can be several such incidents of completely credible coincidences. But when these occur frequently in a person's life such that the course of his life is changed then maybe collectively they are considered as miracle.

So if a person goes along with "Hukam" and does Simran whenever and where ever he remembers to do it, then he will come across many such miracles.

That is the Sikh way of life

Well my friend I am not qualified to speak on the Sikh way of life but I can address the issues you raised.

In regards to your report of the marauders bypassing the school we don't know their side of the story, were they blinded so they couldn't see the school house.

Relevant to the car drifting away I am sure the fence was there for sometime prior to the incident.

The incidents of the sick getting well in particular cancer is a personal matter to me. People will say she was a real fighter and beat it. What does that say about another case where the person fought it and lost. was that person a real fighter, it's nonsense. Sometimes the treatment finally works or the body simply heals itself.

Peace
Satyaban