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14-May-2012, 17:03 PM
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Sat Sri Akaal,
Har Man Andir (Har Mandir) (Harmandir) Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/hinduism/38248-are-hindus-sacred-temple-fake.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38248
It's not only the physical place,
Human mind is deeply influence by five, to break the influence, sacred space is created.
One must take inside journey, one will find the same dominant five organs, operated by mind. Mind is controlled controlled by intellect (intelligence act),
and acted by
jyot
which is common to all
Whose inner journey is initiated, will never blame or say negative of basic instincts for others.
Everyone's Inside Mind has five basic instincts.
Understand Mandir (Man Andir) Harmandir (Har Man Andir)
Man to Jyot Saroop Hai Apna Mool Pachan.
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
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14-May-2012, 17:35 PM
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Originally Posted by harry haller  Welcome friend,
you have posted an interesting question, one to which you will get many answers, chances are that none of them will be the 'official sikh line', they will just be personal opinions, just in fact like this post!
Further down through the thread the answers will be come less as each individual poster then argues with another about which is the correct answer, after which it will spin off on a tangent and then die 
Yes, my understanding is that no idols should be worshipped, and that Lord Ram and Lord Krishna never existed as far as Sikhism is concerned.
Gurudwaras today are no different from Hindu temples, but that was not the original intention, they should have been places of learning and contemplation and focus. As Sikhs we should put great emphasis on non ritualistic activities, but most Gurudwaras wish to appear hip and modern and exciting, so a lot model themselves on Mandirs.
I completely respect Hinduism and Vedicism and hope I can learn something from your goodself, but Sikhism is not Hinduism, it is Sikhism. If we can accept this point then we can have some fruitful dialogue
Best Wishes | On a side not though haven't we created idols of our own. Hasn't bowing down to pay respect to Bani become an act of wordhip? Various rules and rituals such as circumnavigating Bani an indication of this? Also pictures of Baba's Sants and Guru's are bowed to and prayed to?
Is there any difference between Sikhs and Hindu's anymore?animatedkhanda1  | | The following member appreciates Randip Singh Ji for the above message. | |
14-May-2012, 18:02 PM
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Majority Sikhs today are just KESHADHAREE HINDUS. ( Hindus with Long hair). Not much different between the two...
2. HINDUS today DONT follow the Vedas shastars or Purans... Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38248Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38248
3. SIKHS dONT follow what Gurbani says
Guru Ji observed this ages ago..Bed kateb kaho matt jhootheh..JHOOTHAH uh jo na bichareh...BOTH SIKHS and hINDUS DONT do vichaar on their religious texts.. | | The following members appreciate Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji for the above message. | |
14-May-2012, 18:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Randip Singh On a side not though haven't we created idols of our own. Hasn't bowing down to pay respect to Bani become an act of wordhip? Various rules and rituals such as circumnavigating Bani an indication of this? Also pictures of Baba's Sants and Guru's are bowed to and prayed to?
Is there any difference between Sikhs and Hindu's anymore?animatedkhanda1 | There is a massive difference between Sikhs and Hindu's. There are also many Hindus who call themselves Sikhs...
I personally do not blame or judge anyone for whatever way they wish to live their lives, however, if we are to call ourselves Sikhs, it would be helpful to know the history and way in which Sikhi was born, as this sets a foundation for interpreting bani correctly and in the spirit in which it was written.
Sikhism was a religion different to most others in that rejected superstition, ritual in favour of truth and reality, and it is in this spirit in which we should function, however it is hard, one has to take responsibility for living within Hukam, or take the consequences, sometimes there are consequences even from being in Hukam, and it can be quite lonely watching people practice Sikhi, when deep in your heart you know they have just replaced one idol with another, its lonely because maybe we all want and need idols, but in my view, the true Sikh is one who sustains himself not only with the grace of God, but uses the grace of God to educate and inform themselves of the truth, and through that truth, live within the best they can to follow Hukam.
Anything else is just bells and whistles | | The following members appreciate harry haller Ji for the above message. | |
15-May-2012, 05:23 AM
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No. They are still sacred and respected by Sikhs, but if you call that Mandir a Gurdwara then you are wrong. |
01-Jun-2012, 19:25 PM
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Well what is Hinduism or Sanantan Dharma, primal points:
1) Moksha-Merging with god, so to speak, but only if the individual leads a noble life
2) Quote: In The Bhagawad Gita, sloka 20, Chapter 10, Lord Krishna says, "I am the Self seated in the heart of all creatures. I am the beginning, the middle and the very end of all beings". All beings have, therefore to be treated alike | Quote:
Therefore, always perform your duty efficiently
and without attachment to the results,
because by doing work without attachment one attains the Supreme.
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King Janaka and others attained perfection
by Karma-yoga alone.
You should perform your duty with a view to guide people
and for the universal welfare (of the society). |
A number of non hindus think they change hinduism into something it is not, well they cant verses are clear! |
01-Jun-2012, 19:42 PM
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"I am the Self seated in the heart of all creatures. I am the beginning, the middle and the very end of all beings". All beings have, therefore to be treated alike
| What a beautiful quote, could you kindly explain why Hinduism is not known for treating all alike, given the caste system? or why certain people are not allowed to read the scriptures? Quote: |
A number of non hindus think they change hinduism into something it is not, well they cant verses are clear!
| Clearly a number of Hindus seem to think they can change Hinduism into something it is not, the Hinduism I see on a daily basis is unlike what you are quoting, mind you to be fair, I could say the same about Sikhism........... | | The following members appreciate harry haller Ji for the above message. | |
01-Jun-2012, 20:18 PM
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What a beautiful quote, could you kindly explain why Hinduism is not known for treating all alike, given the caste system? or why certain people are not allowed to read the scriptures?
| dear me hinduism scriptures are clear, black and white, what other individuals choose to do is up to them, but end game of Hinduism is Moksha,now tell me how can they gain this.
Now for this caste system which has no sanction scriptures and let see facts of scriptures as already stated buts lets see some more: http://agniveer.com/888/caste-system/ Quote:
The actual word used for Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra is ‘Varna’ and not Jaati.
The word ‘Varna’ is used not only for these four, but also for Dasyu and Arya.
‘Varna’ means one that is adopted by choice. Thus, while Jaati is provided by God, ‘Varna’ is our own choice.
| Now every society has functions, so what do you call these functions, nothing, what is name for priest, nothing, what is name for cleaner, nothing, its simple, there is no birth based anything, we all born equally and attain our jobs/professions through our training and education, but each function has dignity of labour: Quote:
In summary, we see that the Vedic society considers all humans to be one single Jaati or race, upholds the dignity of labor and provides equal opportunity for all humans to adopt the Varna of their choice.
There is no element of birth-based discrimination of any manner in the Vedas.
May we all unite together as one integrated family, reject the last element of birth-based discrimination of any manner and embrace each other as brothers and sisters.
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My caste=HUMAN, as per Hindu scriptures, accept all ebings as god resides in all, regardless of paypackets, simple!!
Social evil of birth based caste has no sanction in scriptures, and people are working to eliminate it, starting with oneself
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