Ranjit Singh Dhadrianwale - A Sikh Preacher or a Fake?

A member of the congregation bows to Ranjeet Singh as he places his hand on her head to 'bless' her.(KP) - This week, a video of Bhai Ranjit Singh Dhadrianwale has come to light in the public. The young man who at an early age has been renowned as a “Sant” by his followers, became popular for his charisma and attracting Sikhs who in large numbers by preaching Sikhi.




On the stage Bhai Ranjit Singh Dhadiranwale has publicly said that no one should do matha tekh (bow down) to him and only matha tekh to Guru Granth Sahib Ji. He has focused on doing Amrit Parchaar and asking youngsters to give up intoxicants.

Controversy has built around the young Ranjit Singh Dhadrianwale who calls himself a “Sant”. His use of Gurbani and style of Kirtan has led to accusations that he sings “Kachee Baanee” (distorted Gurbaani). Furthermore it has been suggested on certain radio stations and by Gurdwara Sahibs that Ranjit Singh is only driven by collecting money for himself and that he is “fake holy man”.

The recent video of Bhai Ranjit Singh shows him wearing a Kalgi (plume) or something similar to it, and sitting on a high seat. On the wall behind him is a large painting of himself, and in front of his seat is a plastic basket. The video shows how Sikhs visiting him put money in the basket, give presents and then matha tekh to him. Bhai Ranjit Singh shows no hesitation when the Sangat matha tekhs to him. He blesses those who bow to him by patting them on the head or back. The video shows how that Ranjit Singh casually sits on his seat and sometimes show little or no interest in those who bow to him with faith and sharda.
We must ask ourselves some hard questions. Firstly, why do some people insist on singing “Dharnaas” or Gurbaani mixed with their own lyrics rather than singing Gurbaani purely without addition or distortion? Is Gurbaani alone not good enough?
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Secondly, where does the money go, which is collected by the people who call themselves “holy men” and tour America, Canada, and the UK? If these people are coming abroad not to make money but to preach Gurmat, then why do they need to take away thousands and thousands of pounds and dollars raised in Gurdwaras abroad? How much of this money has been used to give bail to a Sikh sister held by Panjab Police and ensure that she doesn’t get raped, tortured and abused while in prison?
Thirdly, how many of these people have raised their voice for the Panth? How many of these “holy men” have used their status, connections, and platform to bring to light Panthic issues and how Sikh men and women are still languishing in Indian jails without trial or case?

Let us not blindly follow people and not become dependent on “sants”, “babas” or anyone other than Guru Granth Sahib Ji. The more we become dependent on others, and create middlemen between the relationship of us and Waheguru, the more we get trapped in situations of abuse, distortion and misdirection. Let us wake up as a Panth and unite as one under the umbrella of Guru Granth Sahib Ji, and follow the Guru Granth and Guru Panth.

Any body interested in seeing the vedio clips they are available here

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=301XOZSS

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=42RR2BSJ

 
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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji KI Fateh.

This man is NO SANT or BABA.
ON a Live Radio Show he blamed all this on the "SANGAT"...snagta forced me to do this and that..blah blah.
TO a question as to WHY do you SING "Kachi bani" ( home made JINGLES similar to the ones in TV Adverts selling coca cola/Colgate /Desi Ghee/Ayurvedic toothpaste etc etc)...WHEN you have 1430 Pages of GURBANI to choose from.....he replied..So and SO SANT JI did it ?? IS it wrong of them ?? Then he GOOFED..he says WHO SAYS any BANI is KACHI. There is NO SUCH THING as Kachi Bani..ALL BANI is PAKEE.
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Apparently this SANT BABA JI NEVER read ANAND SAHIB where Guru Amardass Ji declares... SATGUR BINA HOR Kachee bani... kehnedh kacheh, sundeh kacheh, kachee aakh vikhanee" SO "SRI MANN SANT BABA JI CONTRADICTS GURU JI... shamelessly...

Then he alludes to "I have chhaka amrit to LAKHS" ... If He chakaa amrit to LAKHS... WHERE ARE THEY? Most of these FAKE AMRITDHAREES can be seen in the VIDEO BOWING TO HIM, touching His feet, Giving his presents... NOT to GURU GRANTH JI. So whose amrtidharees are they... Sant baba Ji's OWN and NOT GURU's.

He was RUDE to Ex-Jathedar of AKAL TAKHAT Prof. Darshan Singh Ji, who has served the PANTH selflessly for 65 YEARS and is the ONE and ONLY person to RESIGN this Jathedar Post voluntarily... That Radio Show is available at ggsacademy.org.
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NO doubt he has charisma (mike jackson style)...and he can be an asset to Sikhe if he does GURMATT PARCHAAR - NO Dhaarna jingles, NO Making the Paunj Piyarae Stand BEHIND HIM while he performs kirtan sitting down (and then refer to them as "POOR PUNJ.. .they have been standing since morning !!! and NO MATHA TAKING to HIM, and drop the SANT/BABA title, no celebrating his birthdays and collecting presents,...Follow AKAL TAKHAT MARYADA.

Jarnail Singh

Wahiguru Ji Ka Khalsa Wahiguru Ji Ki Fateh

Das is interested toknow if this person in question has any linage from any order or sampradaya in past or not.

Das is not saying that people without klinage cannot b e very good Gursikh or preachers rather many of them are even better than that who have linage.
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Coming back to this person Das did learnt about him and many other Sants creeping out in rural Punjab.

Das can say that those Sants who live on Chrawa or Puja Ka Dhan or wealth made up of offering and does not use it to uplift poor and Panth and use it for self interest can nver be Sikh even.

In fact such termites have already weaken hinduism a lot.

Like the mony which could have gone to Seva Bharti or Vanvasi Kalyan Parishad or Samiti of Baba Kalyandev etc. goes to awrong persoan like Asutos Ji or Nirkaris etc.

Das can say that there is no problem to visit this sant but let there be no Charva to this Sant and let mony goes to Pingalwara.

If he is true he will surivie without any charwa or offering and this will mean that he is not depending upon that and if he could not then we may behold that he is fake and no Sikh at all and a persoan who could not sustain himself can nver be a guide to others.
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Comong to Kachch Bani factor well we caqn behold that writings of Bhai Nand Lal Singh,Bhai gurdas or Dhadis or Kavishwars may not sing Gurbani but if somepeomes are sung to let people understand Gurmat then it is could be OK but better than singing songs on filmy tunes better is to do Katha or explantion of Gurbani or else we must know that Radhswamis have history of defoming Bani so they will pay for it.

Well das is also intersted to know that weather these sants do correct Katha or bring in mythology totaly absurd without conveying the message which it givces.

WJKK
WJKF


I'm fully agree with Gyaniji and Vijadeepji. The person named Sant
Baba Ranjit Singh Dhadrianwale, Is a fake preacher. A Gursikh only
can be able to know about his identity. Every person attending his
ceremonies are only manmukhs not the gursikhs. One day i have seen
a video of him. Where he was saying that he had an accident and
survived miraculously because of the 30 lakh rupees worth vehicle, in
which he was traveling. As per his views that worth of vehicle was
the only cause of that miraculous save of his life. How a person is
called Sant or Baba when he is having so faith and in love with
material. He is the person, You just take a video of him of your
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choice, like living with ME, MY, MYSELF only. He just make
GURU GRANTH SAHEB JI MAHARAJ as a shield for himself to make fool
of Innoccent Gursikhs.

gauVI guAwryrI mhlw 3 ] mnmuiK sUqw

mwieAw moih ipAwir ] gurmuiK jwgy gux igAwn bIcwir ] sy jn jwgy ijn nwm ipAwir ]
1] shjy jwgY svY n koie ] pUry gur qy bUJY jnu koie ]1] rhwau ] AsMqu AnwVI kdy n bUJY
] kQnI kry qY mwieAw nwil lUJY ] AMDu AigAwnI kdy n sIJY ]2] iesu jug mih rwm
nwim insqwrw ] ivrlw ko pwey gur sbid vIcwrw ] Awip qrY sgly kul auDwrw ]3]
iesu kiljug mih krm Drmu n koeI ] klI kw jnmu cMfwl kY Gir hoeI ] nwnk nwm ibnw ko
mukiq n hoeI ]4]10]30] page 160

Surely he is culprit. Making money only by making innoccent people
fool. He will not be spared even if He is travelling in a vehicle of worth
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50 lacs. Beware of GOD.

Vaheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa Vaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh

What does linage give you or anyone else? its saying same thing as caste. just because your born into a certain family or way of life does not mean you will be rich or work in a certain proffesion. same as you will not gain instand Mutie for being born into a certain family!

Its quite funny, well actually sad, two Singhs at my uni both keshadharhi when asked when they will take amrit they replied, they did not need to because there long line of family are amritdharhi, there dad, grandad, great grandad. now tell me how does that help them to become a Gursikh?

Truth is it does. yes they are lucky they have great role models with in there family but they should follow them and take amrit not think there is no need because they belive they have some kind of "linage."

Linage does not mean anything as far as im oncerned, its about how we us this life and the actions we make.

what a lame argument...? Since they are in UNI....didnt their dads and grand dads ever go to school ? I am sure they come from a long line of "school goers"... but they still "need" to go to school ??

Every SIKH...MUST go through the Khanda Batta Da PAHUL ceremony in order to complete the Process of SIKHEE. No body is EXEMPTED...just look at GURU GOBIND RAI JI...inspite of being GURU like the previous ones..Guru nanak ji- Guru Teg Bahadur Ji...HE Knelt before the Panj and took Khande Batte da PAHUL and became GURU GOBIND SINGH JI.
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Guru Ji could have said..my NINE GURU Ancesotrs...my "lineage"...exempts me...but HE didint...and showed us by Persoanl Example just how VITAL this Khanda Batted De Pahul is for our completion.

Jarnail Singh

i am shocked to see this. he is not a sant. u cannot bow down to any one or anything except from the guru granth sahib
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he is a fake

Gurfateh

Das must not be taken into wrong thing here linage does not imply to blood or family as Das himself has that linage with hindus.


Das is taking about some other linage.

Well for Example afrter the baptism Das can be from the Liinage of Singhs since Five Belovedones as by some route Amrit has can from that source even if Amrit was made by unbaptised and all other were baptised.


Linage in this context means that is this Sant in question is just raisen from no where or does he has any linage with any order like Nanaksar,Nirmalas,Taksal,Sevapanthis or Rara Sahib etc.

Das was only interseted to know that.We could call it Parampara or tradition or as in Islam Silsila.

Das has writtan this due to the fact that there are many so called Sants in Punjab who do not have any formal educations in traditional seminary and just by there absurded logic preach Sikhism like an animist preach occult.

Best Example for this is to bring Deram of Guru or possesion or Chowki of spirit of Shahhed etc.

Well Guru was Salvaged while alive then how can we have his vision only God knows.

Das is sorry if some misunderstanding is created.
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Main reason for Das's asking for linage was that in case say he is using the name of Nanaksar and doing Anti Gurmat things saying that it is there tradition then we can directly ask Nanaksar people that if they are party to it or not.And if not then this guy could be a thug.
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Das is repating that there are mnay thugs in Punjab who will say that they are Nihungs or Nirmalas without linage or connection to any order.

Note in future term linage used by Das kindly be tAKEN into the sense like for example das can proximity to a particular order or idealogy.For that meaning we can visit websites of Rara Sahib,Nirmalas or Sevapanthis.

Das can even say for example that linage of S. Gurbax Singh Ji Kala Afghana Ji is from Prof Gurmukh Singh Ji and S. Bhag Singh Ji Ambala.

This person is one of many who are running 'successful business' in the form of deras in Punjab and making fool of rural population of Punjab and earning their livelihood.
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Many of his videos are being shown on the cable TV network. He is unable to do kirtan except for narrating truth less kathas and singing some home made poems passing it as kirtan. To legitimize his show he throws in couple of Gurbani lines here and there.
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I have heard few of his videos and find him a 'pukka thug'. I am not surprised at all by his show rather am appalled at the state of we sikhs who are able to digest such things happening among us.