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Controversial preachers like Dhuna earn their roji roti by doing emotional blackmail on Sangat.

I like to know why people call Sarabjit Singh Dhunda with a tittle of Professor. Does he understand what makes a person professor or how long it takes to become a professor in any subject? If he is not a qualified professor, than why he is using the professor title. What kind of preacher lies?

In his video he is labeling our own mothers, sisters and daughters as females prostitutes because of dancing in private family functions or happy occasions such as marriage. Is this how preachers do prachar by name calling and making character mockery of bibian with degrading examples of prostitutes. Simple task of missionary is to guide our community rather than doing offensive adultery talk against some members of sangat and that too in the hazoori of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
Personally to me he is nobody, I can comprehend Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, it is easy for a Sikh to follow his dharam flawlessly. Translations are available in Punjabi and English. I don’t think we need third party dodgy pracharks such as Dhunda to tell us about Sikhi. We have our Guru, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. We should remove third party such as dhunda from our life. We must stop listing to third parties such as missionary Dhunda or Ghagga, as such third parties will always create confusions.

If we want peace in our life then the formula is very simple and given by our Guru Sahib: kirt karni, Vaand ke shakna, Naam Simran Karna and Bhanna man-Keh-Charrdi kala vich rehana. We spend almost half of our life working, we will never miss a day from work but we do not find time to read and understand straight message from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. We will rush to Gurudwara Sahib when such dodgy character less preacher comes to visit foreign shores. We believe that these preachers will do some magic on us so that we can get on to follow Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Most of our naïve brothers and sisters go to see such preacher, thinking that he will give us the medicine for our sins. What our brothers and sisters don’t know is that NOBODY can give us anything except our Guru Sahib jee.

We are simply just being lazy, pathetic and naïve by totally relying on pathetic preachers like Dhunda. I was like them but with guru jees blessing, I got out of that rut.

It is easy for a missionary like Dhunda to do lectures on us because he knows our weakness that most of us are empty and ignorant about faith. We should understand that these missionary are paid and free all day to memorize few tuks from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and then use that against us. They live their roji roti by doing emotional blackmail on Sangat. We must stop giving our minds to such shady character otherwise we will become a cult-controlled mind. I know a family who got attached with this missionary cult and now their family is ruined. My brothers and sisters who are not aware of our dharam then be alert and be careful and always take guidance from Guru Sahib Jee rather than from duki tuki preacher like dhunda. Always ask guidance from Guru sahib ji and he will take care of us. We must remember Guru jee both in Dukh and Sukh. Guru jee will shower you with his grace, everything will change to .

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Re: Professor Dhunda: Intellectual or Misleading?

Sukritkaur Bhain world is not as straight as it appears some times.

Checkout the following URL,

http://www.charityfocus.ca/en/pages/...84320920RR0001
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Darshan Singh DG Ghankas, Authorized Signing Officer

(5 VALLEYWEST ROAD BRAMPTON, ON L6P2J9)

Nice house for the Charity address. It appears lot of people have opened charities and Gurdwaras in their homes for Tax purposes. The above appears related to the author of the article. Very suspicious! Also appear to be Dasam Granth pushers!

Sat Sri Akal.

PS: Sukritkaur ji you are very smart. Do you think one day I should add the word Prof. to my name say when I am finished translating Sukhmani Sahib ji.

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Re: Professor Dhunda: Intellectual or Misleading?

SUKRIT KAUR ji,

How nany of us have really understood the true message of GuRu.?
We all only talk about GuRu whithout understanding what the GuRu is?
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Under these circumstances persons like you are mentioning get the opportunity of presenting whatever they like and many of us feel happy and dont hesitate in giving the title like PROFESSOR or MAHAPURAKH or even SANT BABA.
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Re: Professor Dhunda: Intellectual or Misleading?

Guru Piayario Jios,

This article is typical run off the mill type of mislead..misinterpret.....everything MIS..that can be there in the dictionary...and the link address shows that its indeed being promoted by the Mother of All MIS creators ( Quote modeled on the famous Saddam quote Mother of all battles that he promised the Americans if they invaded Iraq and then Americans called his bluff..it became his Mother of all Ends )....

2. The Same Character Assasination was carried out on Professor Darshan Singh Khalsa Ex Jathedar of Akal Takhat. Just to be Fair why not question each and every "Gyani"..titles which even the TABLA player is addressed with from very long ago and is so common that any "religious" looking person in a Gurdwara/kirtan area is automatically addressed as GYANI JI. Now a GYANI as qualified in Gurbani is such a HIGH Standard...almost negligible persons can be qualified. Secondly those who do go to UNIVERSITY and PASS a Public Examination with HONOURS is given a Official DEGREE called GYANI. The holder of such is entitled to attach the title GYANI in his name. There is NO THIRD type of GYANI. Absolute SAME..HIGHEST OF ALL STANDARDS are the GURBANI QUALIFICATIONS for SANT/SAINT/BRAHMGYANI...the number achieving it would be one in a billion...YET UNDER EACH TREE and STONE in INDIA..there is a SANT/Brahmgyani/Mahapurash !! There is NO "Worldy education/exam/university/college that bestows titles of SANT/Brahmgyani/Mahapurash. IN Gurbani it is transaprent that ONLY BRAHM can have all the GYAAN necessary to be qualified Brahmgyani....a PURSH who is MAHA..can only be the One CREATOR HIMSELF...in fact Gurbani doenst veen refer to a Mahapurash..it just refers to to PURSH ONLY..and that One and ONLY PURSH is HE HIMSELF..yet we have Sikh sangats kissing the feet of people masquarading as Total FRAUDS by calling themsleves MAHA to the PURASH of GURBANI...they are claiming to be GREATER thna GURU..Akal Purakh..The Creator..and yet we bow at their feet and dont say a word...if that isnt double speak what is ??

Has anyone ever even feebly protested that the writer of Sukhmani Sahib refers to Himself as Mahalla Panjavan and signs off Nanak...while the mere mortal who explains this bani/other banis..... based on his own low level human mind consciousness..calls himself Gurmatt Maartaand..brahmgyani..Sri 108.. Gyaan Da SOORAJ...etc etc etc etc etc etc..a virtually UNENDING STRING OF TITLES a MILE LONG !!..and still remains a mahapursh brahmgyani sant to many hundreds of followers worldwide...WHO DONT HESITATE to draw swords and knock off dastaars in the very august presence of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji even of anyone who dares to say a word about this.....
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2. Missionaries are DEDICATED people who dutifully attend MISSIONARY COLLEGES...go through well known Gurmatt Mission Courses on Gurbani, sikh history, languages etc etc for long periods of disciplined timetabled life and then emerge as Missionary Parcharaks who are more often than not Married as per Gurbani/Gurmatt, have families and other responsibilities and also PREACH the GURMATT as opposed to the hundreds fo thousands of DERAWALLAHS called "Sant Ji"..Brahmgyani ji..mahapursh ji..etc..who dont MARRY as per Gurmatt, dont do any KIRT..except go around EQUALLING the GURUS by saying we are Naam jappers....who collect HUGE SUMS..who ALWAYS go ABROAD more often becasue the foreign currencies mean bigger fortunes...whose DERAS have majestic AraamGaahs mansions for their PRIVATE residences, luxury cars...who express EXTREME ANGER and VIOLENCE as was shown when Babbu mann sang a song..IK Baba nanak see jihneh dunia padel tur ke gahtee..IK uh baba see jihne LAAL BATEE Gaddee ute laa tee....now its common knowledge that who HAS RED LIGHTS on Luxury cars..and why this SONG STUNG SO MUCH. GOVERNMENTS ALWAYS ACCORD RED CARPETS and RED LIGHT Cars and SECURITY..only to those who COLLUDE with the Govt of the Day..be it Mughal..British..or Delhi Govt....NOT a Single MISSIONARY in the world has a LUXURY CAR..or Mansions..or Govt security...esp in PUNJAB. All of them are simple householders earning a living and doing KIRT, waand chhaknna and Naam jappnna as ordained by GURBANI in PRACTISE in the OPEN......not sit around in deep "bhoras" hidden inside DERAS and Private Gurdwaras...."doing what" ?? no body knows..because the doors are locked...and secured by armed security outside and cctv cameras as well.
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2. Listen to the Videos of prof Dhunda ji....and see..that the DIWANS are what we say in Punjabi KHACHA KHACH....filled to the brim..even OVERFLOWING into extra tents etc...( And thats what really scares these Baba mahapursh followers becasue sangats are now actually sitting down to listen to the GURU and His Message instead of tall tales of dropadi and nand lalla kishore and various rishis making babies out of reeds etc etc etc)..are these CROWDS for REAL ?? why no one made any PROTEST ? why didnt hey just get up and WALK AWAY ?? Are those thousands of LADIES simply so stupid to take those so called "insults" to themsleves sitting down ?? OR is the WRITER of this SPUN TALL TALE masquerading as an "article" decide to DEFEND THEM ???
Listen carefully...dont So called SIKHS drink..and dance in PUBLIC..on PUBLIC ROADS ??? is that an overstatement ?? Then why so many so called "SATIKAAR" GOONDA GROUPS rushing about everywhere looking to DISRUPT these weddings and dancings and drinking binges ?? You cannot have your cake and eat it too. You cant say..NO SUCH THING..its Dhundas imagination..and then justify gate crashing at weddings simply because there s meat alcohol bhangara there ??? Just Google the Internet and see how many sikh weddings were thus rudely "interrupted"...and you know Dhunda is just stating the OBVIOUS....and anyway DHUNDA Ji is much much MORE RATIONAL about these than the "satikaar goondas" who dont give two hoots about anyone else except their own AGENDA. What is the TRUTH cannot be hidden or wished away under guise of "insulting us"...so close the eyes and bury the head in the sand... no jios jkear eho jiheh kaam karangeh taan sir swaah pavegi...GURMATT nasaar there is NO Bhnagra..NO ALCOHOL..no DANCING..etc in a ANAND KARAJ..only LAAVAN !! But sadly todays SIKHS (more so the wealthy ones)...treat Laavan/Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji presence just as a necessary "evil"..and keep it SHORT ENOUGH....so that the LONGER time can be spent drinking, orgy dancing drunk as the devil...and eating etc in the Marriage Palaces with DJs and loud music half naked dancing girls etc etc...in FACT 99.9% of WEDDING ATTENDEES/INVITEES NEVER step foot inside the Gurdawra for the laavaan...they go STRAIGHT to the Marriage Palace..where all the action is...( Bottle/Chicken legs).....who needs the Karrah parsaad anyway..its GHEE/SUGAR/ATTA is cholesterol and bad for health..ha ha !!

WHY not a single "detractor" of Dhunda ji ahs not even asked why he alludes to the DHESIAN DERA Kirtan programme where in the AUGUST Presence of a parkash Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji...the ragis like SUFI POET Hans raaj hans and so called gurmatt kirtaniyahs sang and the sangat STOOD UP and DANCED. This Incident is real and did happen...but no one seems the slight bit offended by this GROSS INSULT to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji...but the "shadowy" insult to the our daughters mothers is so visible...isnt it true that an ELEPHANT seated on ones NOSE is invisible..while a MICROBE on the MOON is highly viisble ??( esp when that "microbe" is just IMAGINARY )

LISTEN to ALL the DHUNDA Videos on YOU TUBE....and make up your own minds...dont be MISLED by vested interests....

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I agree with Jarnail Singh veer ji... don't be fooled by other people. Do your own research, if you do that then you can make the correct decision for yourself, who is wrong or right? Don't be a sheep and follow others. Waheguru has given you the capability to stand on your own feet.
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Heres the video of gross insult to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji..so called Sikhs dancing in Guru jis presence...all this got from Akal takhat was a tiny slap on the wrist for Hazooree ragi.....and case closed. This is what Dhunda is talking about as well....are Sikhs sleeping ?? or "awake" selectively ?? when it suits them...???
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Each and every one of us should close our eyes and meditate on Satnaam Waheguru and from deep in our heart do ardaas to god to show us the 'Truth' to keep us amongst the 'Truth' to help us be the 'Truth' and to serve the 'Truth'.
If you do this with Full faith and Love and commitment, God will show you all the Truth and nothing but the Truth. even if the Truth hurts your feelings or is not what you expected.
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If you are destined to meet a Living True Sant (if there is one) then you will know He is a True Sant.
Problem is that too many people go looking for a Sant, they have lost faith in Ardaas and their reasons for Seeking god are worldly reasons.
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When i Sit in the gurdwara, all i hear are ardaas of "please bless me with a Job" "bless my New Child with happiness and success" "please bless me so that I may pass my exam".... Hardly ever do i hear an ardaas or prayer that says "whatever you give me, i am pleased with that, whatever you do with me, i am pleased with that for you are the only doer Kartaa Purakh. Just never let me forget your Naam".

These followers have just lost faith, and their desires are worldly. Life will always manifest something to appease their minds desires, and thats why these fake saints keep popping up.
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Hardly ever do i hear an ardaas or prayer that says "whatever you give me, i am pleased with that, whatever you do with me, i am pleased with that for you are the only doer Kartaa Purakh. Just never let me forget your Naam".
veer chazsingh ji great points indeed.

Essence of what underlined above is my quiet Ardaas when I bow before Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. No wonder you will never hear it. Many doing this Ardaas do it so in their hearts.

I believe it is generally OK to speak or good or bad in Ardaas in worldly terms too as this is perhaps also one of the only places and times that you have the opportunity to say thanks or cry for help openly. Sometimes this in itself may be help to you as well as others since many people with different backgrounds and capabilities attend a congregation. It does sound pretty bad at times listening and I agree with you on that.

What you think!

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Yes, i sincerely hope many people are doing this ardaas also albeit silently. God bless us all that we pour our hearts out the the Guru and fall at His feet. It is his Grace that gives us the kick up the '....' to start Simran, to help others, to tell the truth and be the truth, and it is our Ego that wants to take the credit for it all.

Just from my experience of hearing peoples ardaas, hearing people get angry to the Giani ji pronouncing their name sin-correctly, even just the Giani Ji having to mention someone's name and how much money they have given. I just don't understand it. If we really truely beleive in Guru Ji, that Guru Ji literally exists in every particle of us, they whey do we need to speak out about how much money is given by us, or have a Giani Ji to speak it. Guru Ji already knows as soon as the though of you giving money arises in your mind.

Our minds have the power to create whatever world we so desire....If we are all perverted to the extreme, our surrounding become filled with more Strip clubs, more prostitutes appearing and all that follows with it.
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If our collective minds live in Fear and Dis-trust, we add more locks to our front doors, pay for ever more expensive security equipment, give more power to our governments to help remove this fear.
If we forget that God is one, all is God. then our Ego bathes in the Glory of 'I' and 'Me' and we create boundaries, Hate, Anger towards another, My belonging/ My money, etc etc.
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People still don't believe that God Exists in us even though Sri Gur Nanak Dev ji made it so clear, so they still feel the need to get something from the outside ( a Sant or someone to come and do the job for them ) and then leave themselves open to being abused by Fake people. , rather than sit in Quite and Tune into your inner sound. All the answers lie there.
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