Naam Jap, Simran and Naam Simran

Sat Sri Akaal,

Please correct/reject or accept thought.


parabh kai simran jap tap poojaa.
In the remembrance of God are chanting, intense meditation and devotional worship.
parabh kai simran binsai doojaa.
In the remembrance of God, duality is removed.
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atal padvee naam simran darirh naanak har har saran. ||4||3||29||
Remembering the Naam in meditation, the state of eternal dignity is obtained; Nanak has grasped the protection of the Lord, Har, Har. ||4||3||29||

If "Simran" of "Guru's Bani" is while "Meditating" or "Naam Jaap"
than it is "Naam Simran"

"Remember" of "Naam" origin of "Wa" He" Gu" Ru" inside body




"Naam Jap" is reciting "Wa He Gu Ru"

Natural air crosses four channels,

clearing the residual thought and images

"Guru's Bani" has prescribed "Simran" of "Guru's Bani"

while reciting "Naam Jap"

Initially our "imaginative sense" and "mind" thoughts
on start of recitation are linked to worldly events,
more one's mind is engrossed,
bigger is the link, more one has to meditate

till the "Simran" of "Guru's Bani" appear in thought and imagination



On meditation "Wa He Gu Ru"

It nourishes "lever" "heart" "throat" "mind" one is protected

The source or origin of alphabet inside body has relevance

in formation of word "Wa He Gu Ru"

and is responsible for circulation of air through speech

and provides cleansing to four chakras

Leaving fresh and natural air inside
and
re leaving from residual foul air
because of biochemical reactions and images


and connecting to "Nature" and "Guru's Bani"

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

 
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Raveneet ji,

Guru Fateh.

You write:

How about interacting and learning from each other so that we can become better than what we were yesterday?

Tejwant Singh

RAVNEET Ji,
It is incorrect to consider the meaning of the reference Prabh as GOD.

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The meaning of the word Prabh is ULTIMATE or SUPREME LORD.

Therefore Gurbani is all with a reference of ULTIMATE LORD not GOD.

I think we can understand the dififference in the meanings of the words GOD and LORD.
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Prakash.S.Bagga

Sat Sri Akaal,

Interactive part was missed.
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It is real valuable.

Thanks

Sat Sri Akaal,

"Sikh" is "seeker" or "Learner"

From your correspondence your mind reflects as "literal" aware.

As not being master in the subject,
you can always share perspective knowledge on the subject "ULTIMATE LORD" and "GOD"

It will be learning for all.

In this forum we share learning of word with different perspectives.




Each "word" has life and many perspectives and relevance in the "world"

"word" is "punish"

legal persons Jail/ Extort/ etc.... if used by police/lawyers
parents Scolding/ Beating/ Not talking etc
spirituals Moaning/Cleaning of Utensils/ Floor/Self Correction

Though word is "Punish" but it has different world experience.

One learns if mind is open to all perspectives,


Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa
Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh

RAVNEET Ji,
We can not compare the words given by GuRu with wordly words.
The words of GuRu are words from the "TAKSAAL OF TRUTH" whereas wordly words can be manipulated as per our convenience.It is not so with Gurbani words.
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Prakash.S.Bagga

Parkash S Bagga Ji,

It is personal opinion and can be interacted/checked/ rejected or accepted.
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Word has apperared with realisation, and to make commons understand, it can
be related.

Like "gravity" was realised and word appeared "GRAVITY" and

is explained to
commons as force of attraction by earth, force of nature.

Purpose of expert is to make common understand.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
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Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

RAVNEET Ji,
I like your understanding that purpose of the expert is to make common understand.
When our expert Master GuRu is telling the word as PRABh then why we like to adopt some other word which our GuRu nowhere mentions like this.
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Prakash.S.Bagga

Dear Ravneet _ sb ji,
I thank you for your comments and posting your views on, Naam jap ,Simran and Naam Simran. I would add that there seems to be some overlap in the three words mentioned in the post.
I also agree with you that Prabh means God as is usually understood by Sikhs.Following are the meanings of Prabh as per Mohankosh encyclyopedia , a source whose authenticity is fairly established.
Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Gurmukhi-Gurmukhi Dictionary ਪ੍ਰਭੂ, ਪ੍ਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਰੱਬ। ਉਦਾਹਰਣ: ਹਮ ਗਰੀਬ ਮਸਕੀਨ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਤੇ ਰੇ ਹਰਿ ਰਾਖੁ ਰਾਖੁ ਵਡਵਡਾ ਹੇ॥ {ਗਉ ੪, ਸੋਹ ੪, ੪:੧ (13)}।
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Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Gurmukhi-English Dictionary P. n. God, master


The post by Mr. Bagga ji is confusing the issue though he must have consulted some dictionary before making these comments that I could not digest and hence this post. I would very much appreciate if one can explain the difference between Ultimate /Supreme Lord and God.
God and Lord or Ultimate God are all synonyms for me and we select the English word that suits us. Prabh even in ordinary Punjabi Parlance is God . The Hindi equivalent of the word is Prabhu or Bhagwan.
I have a very limited understanding of Gurbani but understand ordinary Punjabi very well. Hence
Bul Chuk Mauf karna jeo.