Guru and God No Difference

simpy · #1 (**permalink**) 07-Jan-2008, 19:26 PM

guru prmysru eyko jwxu ] (864-9, goNf, mÚ 5)
gur parmaysar ayko jaan.
Know that the Guru and the Transcendent Lord are One.
jo iqsu BwvY so prvwxu ]1] rhwau ] (864-9, goNf, mÚ 5)
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jo tis bhaavai so parvaan. ||1|| rahaa-o.
Whatever pleases Him is acceptable and approved. ||1||Pause||

simpy · #2 (**permalink**) 07-Jan-2008, 19:36 PM

guru dwqw smrQu Guru sB mih rihAw smwie ] (49-17, isrIrwgu, mÚ 5)
gur daataa samrath gur gur sabh meh rahi-aa samaa-ay.
The Guru is the Giver, the Guru is All-powerful. The Guru is All-pervading, contained amongst all.
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guru prmysru pwrbRhmu guru fubdw ley qrwie ]2] (49-17, isrIrwgu, mÚ 5)
gur parmaysar paarbarahm gur dubdaa la-ay taraa-ay. ||2||
The Guru is the Transcendent Lord, the Supreme Lord God. The Guru lifts up and saves those who are drowning. ||2||

simpy · #3 (**permalink**) 07-Jan-2008, 19:41 PM

guru prmysru eyku hY sB mih rihAw smwie ] (53-5, isrIrwgu, mÚ 5)
gur parmaysar ayk hai sabh meh rahi-aa samaa-ay.
The Guru and the Transcendent Lord are one and the same, pervading and permeating amongst all.
ijn kau pUrib iliKAw syeI nwmu iDAwie ] (53-5, isrIrwgu, mÚ 5)
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jin ka-o poorab likhi-aa say-ee naam Dhi-aa-ay.
Those who have such pre-ordained destiny, meditate on the Naam.
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nwnk gur srxwgqI mrY n AwvY jwie ]4]30]100] (53-6, isrIrwgu, mÚ 5)
naanak gur sarnaagatee marai na aavai jaa-ay. ||4||30||100||
Nanak seeks the Sanctuary of the Guru, who does not die, or come and go in reincarnation. ||4||30||100||

simpy · #4 (**permalink**) 07-Jan-2008, 19:44 PM

gauVI bwvn AKrI mhlw 5 ] (250-1)
ga-orhee baavan akhree mehlaa 5.
Gauree, Baavan Akhree ~ The 52 Letters, Fifth Mehl:
sloku ] (250-1)
salok.
Shalok:
gurdyv mwqw gurdyv ipqw gurdyv suAwmI prmysurw ] (250-1, gauVI, mÚ 5)
gurdayv maataa gurdayv pitaa gurdayv su-aamee parmaysuraa.
The Divine Guru is my mother, the Divine Guru is my father; the Divine Guru is my Transcendent Lord and Master.
gurdyv sKw AigAwn BMjnu gurdyv bMiDp shodrw ] (250-2, gauVI, mÚ 5)
gurdayv sakhaa agi-aan bhanjan gurdayv banDhip sahodaraa.
The Divine Guru is my companion, the Destroyer of ignorance; the Divine Guru is my relative and brother.
gurdyv dwqw hir nwmu aupdysY gurdyv mMqu inroDrw ] (250-2, gauVI, mÚ 5)
gurdayv daataa har naam updaysai gurdayv mant niroDharaa.
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The Divine Guru is the Giver, the Teacher of the Lord's Name. The Divine Guru is the Mantra which never fails.
gurdyv sWiq siq buiD mUriq gurdyv pwrs prs prw ] (250-3, gauVI, mÚ 5)
gurdayv saaNt sat buDh moorat gurdayv paaras paras paraa.
The Divine Guru is the Image of peace, truth and wisdom. The Divine Guru is the Philosopher's Stone - touching it, one is transformed.
gurdyv qIrQu AMimRq srovru gur igAwn mjnu AprMprw ] (250-3, gauVI, mÚ 5)
gurdayv tirath amrit sarovar gur gi-aan majan apramparaa.
The Divine Guru is the sacred shrine of pilgrimage, and the pool of divine ambrosia; bathing in the Guru's wisdom, one experiences the Infinite.
gurdyv krqw siB pwp hrqw gurdyv piqq pivq krw ] (250-4, gauVI, mÚ 5)
gurdayv kartaa sabh paap hartaa gurdayv patit pavit karaa.
The Divine Guru is the Creator, and the Destroyer of all sins; the Divine Guru is the Purifier of sinners.
gurdyv Awid jugwid jugu jugu gurdyv mMqu hir jip auDrw ] (250-5, gauVI, mÚ 5)
gurdayv aad jugaad jug jug gurdayv mant har jap uDhraa.
The Divine Guru existed at the primal beginning, throughout the ages, in each and every age. The Divine Guru is the Mantra of the Lord's Name; chanting it, one is saved.
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gurdyv sMgiq pRB myil kir ikrpw hm mUV pwpI ijqu lig qrw ] (250-5, gauVI, mÚ 5)
gurdayv sangat parabh mayl kar kirpaa ham moorh paapee jit lag taraa.
O God, please be merciful to me, that I may be with the Divine Guru; I am a foolish sinner, but holding onto Him, I am carried across.
gurdyv siqguru pwrbRhmu prmysru gurdyv nwnk hir nmskrw ]1] (250-6, gauVI, mÚ 5)
gurdayv satgur paarbarahm parmaysar gurdayv naanak har namaskaraa. ||1||
The Divine Guru is the True Guru, the Supreme Lord God, the Transcendent Lord; Nanak bows in humble reverence to the Lord, the Divine Guru. ||1||

simpy · #5 (**permalink**) 07-Jan-2008, 19:47 PM

guru pwrbRhmu prmysru Awip ] (387-15, Awsw, mÚ 5)
gur paarbarahm parmaysar aap.
The Guru is the Supreme Lord God; He Himself is the Transcendent Lord.
AwT phr nwnk gur jwip ]4]16]67] (387-15, Awsw, mÚ 5)
aath pahar naanak gur jaap. ||4||16||67||
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Twenty-four hours a day, O Nanak, meditate on the Guru. ||4||16||67||

Randip Singh · #6 (**permalink**) 07-Jan-2008, 19:57 PM

Are we saying the actual Guru's were God?

simpy · #7 (**permalink**) 07-Jan-2008, 20:02 PM

DO WE HAVE DOUBT!!!!!!!!!!

even after reading their own word-GURBANI.....................
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IS A SOUL THAT IS MEARGED WITH GOD, limited to a human body ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IS DHAN DHAN SIRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI any different!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

simpy · #8 (**permalink**) 07-Jan-2008, 20:07 PM

By the Way,

RANDIP VEER, WHAT DO YOU THINK GURU SAHIB IS SAYING IN FOLLOWING LINES:

MANN TU JOT SAROOP HAI APNAA MOOL PAHCHAAN

simpy · #9 (**permalink**) 07-Jan-2008, 20:48 PM

nwnk AMqir qyrY inDwnu hY qU bwhir vsqu n Bwil ]2] (569-11, vfhMsu, mÚ 3)
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naanak antar tayrai niDhaan hai too baahar vasat na bhaal. ||2||
O Nanak, the treasure is within you; do not search for it on the outside. ||2||