Today's Hukumnama

[June 7, 2007, Thursday 04:30 AM. IST]
hm mYly qum aUjl krqy hm inrgun qU dwqw ] hm mUrK qum cqur isAwxy qU srb klw kw igAwqw ]1] mwDo hm AYsy qU AYsw ] hm pwpI qum pwp KMfn nIko Twkur dysw ] rhwau ] qum sB swjy swij invwjy jIau ipMfu dy pRwnw ] inrgunIAwry gunu nhI koeI qum dwnu dyhu imhrvwnw ]2] qum krhu Blw hm Blo n jwnh qum sdw sdw dieAwlw ] qum suKdweI purK ibDwqy qum rwKhu Apuny bwlw ]3] qum inDwn Atl suilqwn jIA jMq siB jwcY ] khu nwnk hm iehY hvwlw rwKu sMqn kY pwCY ]4]6]17]

vIrvwr, 24 jyT (sMmq 539 nwnkSwhI) (AMg: 613)

pMjwbI ivAwiKAw :hy pRBU! AsIN jIv ivkwrW dI mYl nwl Bry rihMdy hW, qMU swnMU piv`qr krn vwlw hYN[ AsIN gux-hIn hW, qMU swnMU gux b^Sx vwlw hY[ AsIN jIv mUrK hW, qMU dwnw hYN qMU isAwxw hYN, qMU swnMU cMgw bxw skx vwly swry hunrW dw jwxn vwlw hYN[1[ hy pRBU! AsIN jIv ieho ijhy (ivkwrI) hW, qy, qMU ieho ijhw aupkwrI hYN[ AsIN pwp kmwaux vwly hW, qMU swfy pwpW dw nws krn vwlw hYN[ hy Twkur! qyrw dys sohxw hY, auh dys-swD sMgiq sohxw hY ij`Qy qMU v`sdw hYN[ rhwau[ hy pRBU! qMU ijMd srIr pRwx dy ky swry jIvW nMU pYdw kIqw hY, pYdw kr ky sB auqy b^SS krdw hYN[ hy myhrvwn! AsIN jIv gux-hIn hW, swfy ivc koeI gux nhIN hYN[ qMU swnMU guxW dI dwiq b^Sdw hYN[2[ hy pRBU! qMU swfy vwsqy BilAweI krdw hYN, pr AsIN qyrI BilAweI dI kdr nhIN jwxdy[ iPr BI qMU swfy au~qy sdw hI dieAwvwn rihMdw hYN[ hy srb-ivAwpk isrjxhwr! qMU swnMU suK dyx vwlw hYN, qMU swfI Awpxy b`icAW dI rwKI krdw hYN[3[ hy pRBU jI! qusIN swry guxW dy ^zwny ho[ qusIN sdw kwiem rihx vwly bwdSwh ho[ swry jIv qyry dr qoN mMgdy hn[ hy nwnk! AwK (hy pRBU!) swfw jIvW dw qW ieh hI hwl hY[ qMU swnMU sMq jnW dy Awsry ivc r`K[4[6[17[
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English Translation :
We are filthy, and You are immaculate, O Creator Lord; we are worthless, and You are the Great Giver. We are fools, and You are wise and all-knowing. You are the knower of all things. || 1 || O Lord, this is what we are, and this is what You are. We are sinners, and You are the Destroyer of sins. Your abode is so beautiful, O Lord and Master. || Pause || You fashion all, and having fashioned them, You bless them. You bestow upon them soul, body and the breath of life. We are worthless — we have no virtue at all; please, bless us with Your gift, O Merciful Lordand Master. || 2 || You do good for us, but we do not see it as good; You are kind and compassionate, forever and ever. You are the Giver of peace, the Primal Lord, the Architect of Destiny; please, save us, Your children! || 3 || You are the treasure, eternal Lord King; all beings and creatures beg of You. Says Nanak, such is our condition; please, Lord, keep us on the Path of the Saints. || 4 || 6 || 17 ||
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Thursday 24th Jayt’h (Samvat 539 Nanakshahi)(Page: 613

 
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I shall be posting Hukumnama by this time. However, due to net- connectivity being not so reliable these days anyone of us may post the Hukumnama here.
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Thanks

luv4u dear can you tell what font you are using for gurbani and punjabi translaton. thanks

Hi Sacha jeo,
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The above font is 'Georgia'. It is availbale in this forum and any other MS word software.

wow luv4u dear, you can read punjabi in Georgia font- can you please tell me what school teaches that.
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Mool Mantra by the end of your post is appearing in punjabi,can you change your geogia punjabi for gurbani and its trasliteration into the same punjabi font so that moors like me can read it please.

thanks

Respected all

The font thing continues to be a BIG problem. It has taken me months to figure this out.

Luv4u is writing and reading what is called the Roman transliteration alphabet system. Actually any font can be used in the Roman system to render transliterations of verses from the original Guru. Georgia font, arial, courier and so forth can all be used in the Roman transliteration system. It changes Gurmurki script to the Roman alphabet based on the original sounds of Gurmurki -- but not the original script.

Example in Roman transliteration alphabet: &#160;scu gur kI swKI AMimRq BwKI iqqu mnu mwinAw myrw. Use your font library and you can rewrite this is any Gurbani font and recognize that it is Gurmurki text.

In theory anyone who began life using the Roman alphabet can use this system to understand the Guru without having to learn the Gurmurki script. The fonts used for the Gurmurki script are also numerous, for example Gurbani Web-thick.

Oh how I hate sounding like a know-it-all.

But Roman transliteration is actually the only way I can read Gurmurki. So if everything were written in the Gurmurki script, I'd have to give up completely.

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Gurmurki script is better than the Roman system because it is completely regular and systematic and the Roman transliteration system is not. There are several letters that change sound depending on where they are in a word. This does not happen with Gurmurki script and I wish I had not started with the Roman system because it is a pain.
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I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK WHENEVER POSSIBLE THAT BOTH ROMAN AND GURBANI FONTS BE USED SO THE PEOPLE WHO STARTED IN THE ROMAN SYSTEM CAN STILL FOLLOW WHAT IS HAPPENING. AND THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW THE GURMURKI SCRIPT CAN ALSO FOLLOW WHAT IS HAPPENING. I promise I will try to do this too.

Hope everyone is laughing now and not too cross with me because God is always cheerful.

June 7, 2007


Gurmukhi version:


hm mYly qum aUjl krqy hm inrgun qU dwqw ] hm mUrK qum cqur isAwxy qU srb klw kw igAwqw ]1] mwDo hm AYsy qU AYsw ] hm pwpI qum pwp KMfn nIko Twkur dysw ] rhwau ] qum sB swjy swij invwjy jIau ipMfu dy pRwnw ] inrgunIAwry gunu nhI koeI qum dwnu dyhu imhrvwnw ]2] qum krhu Blw hm Blo n jwnh qum sdw sdw dieAwlw ] qum suKdweI purK ibDwqy qum rwKhu Apuny bwlw ]3] qum inDwn Atl suilqwn jIA jMq siB jwcY ] khu nwnk hm iehY hvwlw rwKu sMqn kY pwCY ]4]6]17]
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translation:

pMjwbI ivAwiKAw :
hy pRBU! AsIN jIv ivkwrW dI mYl nwl Bry rihMdy hW, qMU swnMU piv`qr krn vwlw hYN[ AsIN gux-hIn hW, qMU swnMU gux b^Sx vwlw hY[ AsIN jIv mUrK hW, qMU dwnw hYN qMU isAwxw hYN, qMU swnMU cMgw bxw skx vwly swry hunrW dw jwxn vwlw hYN[1[ hy pRBU! AsIN jIv ieho ijhy (ivkwrI) hW, qy, qMU ieho ijhw aupkwrI hYN[ AsIN pwp kmwaux vwly hW, qMU swfy pwpW dw nws krn vwlw hYN[ hy Twkur! qyrw dys sohxw hY, auh dys-swD sMgiq sohxw hY ij`Qy qMU v`sdw hYN[ rhwau[ hy pRBU! qMU ijMd srIr pRwx dy ky swry jIvW nMU pYdw kIqw hY, pYdw kr ky sB auqy b^SS krdw hYN[ hy myhrvwn! AsIN jIv gux-hIn hW, swfy ivc koeI gux nhIN hYN[ qMU swnMU guxW dI dwiq b^Sdw hYN[2[ hy pRBU! qMU swfy vwsqy BilAweI krdw hYN, pr AsIN qyrI BilAweI dI kdr nhIN jwxdy[ iPr BI qMU swfy au~qy sdw hI dieAwvwn rihMdw hYN[ hy srb-ivAwpk isrjxhwr! qMU swnMU suK dyx vwlw hYN, qMU swfI Awpxy b`icAW dI rwKI krdw hYN[3[ hy pRBU jI! qusIN swry guxW dy ^zwny ho[ qusIN sdw kwiem rihx vwly bwdSwh ho[ swry jIv qyry dr qoN mMgdy hn[ hy nwnk! AwK (hy pRBU!) swfw jIvW dw qW ieh hI hwl hY[ qMU swnMU sMq jnW dy Awsry ivc r`K[4[6[17[
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i hope this helps.

humbly asking for everbody's forgiveness

Hi Friend Sacha jeo,

I have to state that the font used for English is Georgia. In gurbani I have in the computer anmollipilight /anmollipithick/and two or three other fonts. I am frankly, speaking, not sure the font that is picked up by the computer by default. I shall let you know by trying out a few. Yes, I can read gurmukhi very well and know a bit of German as well .Hope you would be knowing some other languages as well. Let me know please.
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Respected Aad ji., I shall definetly post in the roman format as well.I may take some time as I have never used iot myself. Kindly bear with me for a day or two ,I hope to get acquainted with Roman or transliteration etc.

Luv4u

You are already posting in Roman. Thank you for being so kind. The Roman alphabetic system is what you are using already. What I was saying is that Georgia font is just one of 100 fonts that Roman can be written in. Just as Gurbani Web-thick is one of many fonts that Gurbani script can be written in.

Roman transliteration is just another alphabetic system for writing the Gurmurki of the Guru.

And you are correct. The Georgia font is probabaly a default font.

Don't do anything different! You are doing a great job.

And Surinder ji

hm mYly qum aUjl krqy hm inrgun qU dwqw ] hm mUrK qum cqur isAwxy qU srb klw kw igAwqw ]1] mwDo hm AYsy qU AYsw ] hm pwpI qum pwp KMfn nIko Twkur dysw ] rhwau ] qum sB swjy swij invwjy jIau ipMfu dy pRwnw ] inrgunIAwry gunu nhI koeI qum dwnu dyhu imhrvwnw ]2] qum krhu Blw hm Blo n jwnh qum sdw sdw dieAwlw ] qum suKdweI purK ibDwqy qum rwKhu Apuny bwlw ]3] qum inDwn Atl suilqwn jIA jMq siB jwcY ] khu nwnk hm iehY hvwlw rwKu sMqn kY pwCY ]4]6]17]

That is a good example of Gurmurki written in Roman text. Punjabi can be written in Roman text also.

as in

pMjwbI ivAwiKAw :
hy pRBU! AsIN jIv ivkwrW dI mYl nwl Bry rihMdy hW, qMU swnMU piv`qr krn vwlw hYN[ AsIN gux-hIn hW, qMU swnMU gux b^Sx vwlw hY[ AsIN jIv mUrK hW, qMU dwnw hYN qMU isAwxw hYN, qMU swnMU cMgw bxw skx vwly swry hunrW dw jwxn vwlw hYN[1[ hy pRBU! AsIN jIv ieho ijhy (ivkwrI) hW, qy, qMU ieho ijhw aupkwrI hYN[ AsIN pwp kmwaux vwly hW, qMU swfy pwpW dw nws krn vwlw hYN[ hy Twkur! qyrw dys sohxw hY, auh dys-swD sMgiq sohxw hY ij`Qy qMU v`sdw hYN[ rhwau[ hy pRBU! qMU ijMd srIr pRwx dy ky swry jIvW nMU pYdw kIqw hY, pYdw kr ky sB auqy b^SS krdw hYN[ hy myhrvwn! AsIN jIv gux-hIn hW, swfy ivc koeI gux nhIN hYN[ qMU swnMU guxW dI dwiq b^Sdw hYN[2[ hy pRBU! qMU swfy vwsqy BilAweI krdw hYN, pr AsIN qyrI BilAweI dI kdr nhIN jwxdy[ iPr BI qMU swfy au~qy sdw hI dieAwvwn rihMdw hYN[ hy srb-ivAwpk isrjxhwr! qMU swnMU suK dyx vwlw hYN, qMU swfI Awpxy b`icAW dI rwKI krdw hYN[3[ hy pRBU jI! qusIN swry guxW dy ^zwny ho[ qusIN sdw kwiem rihx vwly bwdSwh ho[ swry jIv qyry dr qoN mMgdy hn[ hy nwnk! AwK (hy pRBU!) swfw jIvW dw qW ieh hI hwl hY[ qMU swnMU sMq jnW dy Awsry ivc r`K[4[6[17[
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Gurmurki and Punjabi are languages. Gurbani and Roman are alphabets. Georgia and Gurban-Webthick are fonts.

Should I back out now?